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Been watching a load of cross races on GCN app, really good racing. Looking forward to this weekends racing. Ceylin del Carmen Alvarado is awesome and Wout v Matthieu is always great.
Course looks horrific over that sand!!

My money is on Van der Poel, watching him nail it is poetry in motion.

PS on beeb red button too.

Saturday 30 January

14:10-15:25 - Women's Elite Race - BBC iPlayer, BBC Sport website & app

17:10-18:25 & 22:00-23:15 - Women's Elite Race - BBC Red Button (replay)

Sunday 31 January

14:10-15:40 - Men's Elite Race - BBC iPlayer, BBC Sport website & app

14:30-15:40 - Men's Elite Race - BBC Red Button

15:40-16:55 & 20:30-21:45 - Women's Elite Race (replay)

16:55-18:25 & 21:45-23:15 - Men's Elite Race - BBC Red Button (replay)


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 6:59 pm
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Looks like a good course for Van der Poel. If he gets any sort of gap on Van Aert the race is over. Not sure if Pidcock is good enough in the sand to beat Vanthourenhout or Toon Aerts for third.


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 7:19 pm
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VDP I think / hope as well.
I think Brand will edge the ladies race


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 7:20 pm
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Also on Eurosport and probably any number of vpn dodged feeds through cyclingfans or steephill

Ryan kamp looks nailed on for u23 men’s but Britain with a great chance for the rest of the podium - Thomas mein, ben turner plus others.

Womens elite includes Evie Richards, aka worlds jolliest human being, who’s not had a good run in but could sneak on to the podium in a long race

U23 womens wide open IMO a looks like a hard course to call regarding what kind of rider it suits. A number of riders have been showing form in different races but Anna Kay has a has as much a chance as any of top spot.

Excited.


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 7:21 pm
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Looks like a good course for Van der Poel. If he gets any sort of gap on Van Aert the race is over. Not sure if Pidcock is good enough in the sand to beat Vanthourenhout or Toon Aerts for third.

Pidcock’s ability to peak for last years worlds was astonishing and I always enjoy seeing the drone shot of him riding 6 Belgians off his wheel but I think on flat sand and on current form sweek will get 3rd and possibly worry the top 2 for a while.


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 7:29 pm
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Good races all round I think.

Excited to see how Anna and Thomas get on. Probably more interested than the senior races. Both have had impressive results this season and have really looked at home on the world circuit.


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 7:48 pm
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Brand Vs Alavardo is going to be a good one too. Excited.


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 7:52 pm
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The women’s u23 could be a tight race, I think Bakker might edge it over Kay or Vas


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 7:57 pm
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VdP has stated that he thinks that WvA has better power over the sand, it might come down to the sprint, or as in more recent races punctures or mechanicals. Sand doesn't suit Pidders at all - it's not technical, it's just down to big watts.


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 8:12 pm
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WvA whooped VdP in a muddy race a few weeks back but other than that has needed a MVP puncture to win.


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 8:40 pm
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Anyone got any links to the u23 race.
Local lad racing in it.
Cheers


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 9:24 pm
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Uci might have a live feed, might need a vpn though.


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 9:28 pm
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The WE is likely to come down to Brand or Alvarado but I wouldn't discount Cant, Vos, Betsema and perhaps Richards.
ME depends on which version of VdP turns up. If it's the one we've seen most of the season then it's a close race between him and WvA, if it's the Hulst/previous two seasons version then he's unbeatable.


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 9:33 pm
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So excited. Hoping GCN is showing all four races. Mein looking good for a U23 podium, Turner too if he's recovered from his Overisje crash.

Kay possibly lacking the power but she was looking good last weekend.

Interested to see how Evie goes. Perhaps not enough tech for her. Love how she needs next to no racing to find form!

Too close to call for the GOATs. WvA seems to have found his cx legs for the first time in a few years and MvdP hasn't dominated as usual (lacking form or weather worked against him this season??). Big Mat was incredible on the Koksijde sand when he came from last place. But of course this is different sand!

Praying for Pidders. Agreed it might favour Sweeck but Dübendorf was a power course and he did alright there. He's also making all the right noises about off road riding in the future thank god 🙂


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 9:45 pm
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What a visually impressive course BTW.


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 9:48 pm
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anyone got a good link to the uci feed?  All the stuff I can find looks as dodgy as :(.  It's either that or brush up on Flemish pretty quickly (ok, might have to be French)

edit:  and are tyres really only 19-20psi?  Seems super low for such narrow tyres


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 9:51 pm
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Looking forward to it, not 100% about the course but sure it will be great racing.
If we are doing predictions then MVDP, WVA, Toon Aerts for the ME with Lars van der Haar as an outside chance purely based on him being my favourite pro and I just saw a short vid of him flying in the sand.
For the WE, I think Betsema will be on the podium with Brand and Alvardo battling for the top spot (brand edging it).
Women’s u23 is wide open, not sure about the men’s u23 bar Kamp likely to win.


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 10:00 pm
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They're on tubs so pinches a rarity. Also they don't pay for tyres and wheels.

BBC has seniors.

GCN race pass has u23. About £7 for a month if you can't find a feed on steep hill or cyclingfans


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 10:11 pm
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GCN race pass has u23. About £7 for a month if you can’t find a feed on steep hill or cyclingfans

Got the GCN racepass but doesn't work in Belgland for the cross unfortunately.  I thought the UCI used to stream it on YouTube previously but now YouTube seems to be full of dodgy clickbait links that want you to sign into some link in the comments.  Guess it will have to be rtbf for me


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 10:32 pm
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@leffeboy - if you can access it, BBC iplayer has Elite M & W listed


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 11:00 pm
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Allegedly from folks who’ve asked him on Twitter Jeremy powers is convinced gcn app has the u23s even though they aren’t listed. Hopefully it’s same on Eurosport 🤷‍♂️


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 11:07 pm
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the racepass is listing coverage from 12.15 to 15.40 - should be long enough to cover 2 races per day


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 11:13 pm
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@leffeboy – if you can access it, BBC iplayer has Elite M & W liste

tx, but can't get the beeb.  Will take a look at steephill tomorrow and see what is around


 
Posted : 29/01/2021 11:18 pm
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Leffeboy,

It seems you are currently in Belgium so you ca watch on https://www.vrt.be/vrtnu/livestream/ live or direct in dutch. Only works if you are physically in Belgium or if you have a Belgian cell number in Europe.


 
Posted : 30/01/2021 6:33 am
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Just watching U23 men now. It's like Battle on the Beach. They're riding through the waves.


 
Posted : 30/01/2021 12:47 pm
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Looks pretty slippery on the mud sections too. Some pretty good saves so far


 
Posted : 30/01/2021 1:11 pm
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Brutal!
Might favour WvA with morevrunning?


 
Posted : 30/01/2021 1:28 pm
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It seems you are currently in Belgium so you ca watch on

Thanks.  I was trying to find an English language feed but that seems pretty impossible here so I'll just use the rtbf one.  Not up to following it in Flemish yet which is a pity as the Flemish commentary is meant to be the best


 
Posted : 30/01/2021 1:35 pm
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BBC red button only kicks in at 2:!0 ?


 
Posted : 30/01/2021 2:02 pm
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It's there now.


 
Posted : 30/01/2021 2:15 pm
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It is so cold here today, goodness knows how miserable it is up at the coast 🙁


 
Posted : 30/01/2021 2:22 pm
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The ladies race was great.

Can’t wait for tomorrow!


 
Posted : 30/01/2021 3:38 pm
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that was brutal!


 
Posted : 30/01/2021 4:12 pm
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Didn't see what sort of tyres they were all running but there was a lot of sliding on slick but not really lethal looking "grassy" bits


 
Posted : 30/01/2021 4:42 pm
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Shame about Ceylin del Carmen Alvarado she did wear that rainbow jersey rather well.


 
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We didn't get the usual tyre close ups.

You'd normally go for a file tread on sand but a few were saying an intermediate might be better on the front for the mud. It's always a gamble between speed and grip. It's also easy to be caught off guard racing - one of the skills in cx is being able to keep it all together under pressure.


 
Posted : 30/01/2021 4:59 pm
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I think Jeremey powers was saying they would likely be on Grifos


 
Posted : 30/01/2021 8:00 pm
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He said they were on Challenge Limus running 16psi. Well someone was anyhow 😃

Course is pretty boring tbh, not technical.


 
Posted : 30/01/2021 9:47 pm
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I think someone was running Baby Limus. Not sure you'd want full Limus on that course. Looked like Brand was running small birds?


 
Posted : 30/01/2021 10:03 pm
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Course is pretty boring tbh, not technical.

Yeah - in the dry I imagine it'd just be a massive power-fest but there seemed to be a real limit to pace on many of the green bits. I'd have gone full-tractor; wonder if that's connected to my not having ever won a world champs ?


 
Posted : 30/01/2021 10:24 pm
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If anyone wants to race a MTB on such a course, the De Panne beach race happens in November/December each year, and is the biggest mass beach race in Belgium. Anyone can enter. We did it in 2019. It's brilliant. There isnt the grass sections like on the Worlds CX, but you do get the bridge, the foreshore and deep sand twice on each circuit. The most part of it is on the foreshore, which is hard packed, not much different from riding on grass really.
Unbeknown to us, there are a lot more beach races in Belgium, but De Panne is the largest with huge crowds out watching. I got a huge cheer as I came down the ramp of the bridge, into the deep sand and went over the bars! The best riders just rode through it, I struggled to walk in it.


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 9:13 am
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Double post


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 9:28 am
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Watched the women's this morning which was a good battle. Don't like the course it would be my worse nightmare but now seeing it I putting my money on WVA even tho MVP is the best bike rider ever!


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 1:21 pm
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now seeing it I putting my money on WVA even tho MVP is the best bike rider ever!

I agree, I'll still shouting for MvP though!


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 1:30 pm
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****ing bbc start the ****ing feed late !!!! bunch of ****s


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:19 pm
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no spoilers from me but - shitting hell !!


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:26 pm
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could come down to tire choice!


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:27 pm
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im only seeing highlights of WSL football on red button?


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:28 pm
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bloody squeaky brakes should be force to use rim brakes

oops


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:28 pm
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ah, now on......but 2 laps in


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:29 pm
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Wish the TV would show everyone, it does concentrate far too much on the front end. I'd prefer something like Formula 1 which has contractual obligations to show the whole field.


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:30 pm
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tojv - should be on iplayer too


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:30 pm
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the speed through the sand is amazing


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:31 pm
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MVP talking to himself


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:35 pm
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that's a bummer


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:38 pm
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Lad's under pressure, for sure


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:38 pm
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I feel sorry for the mechanics who need to sort these bikes once they've been through the sand and seawater! 😳


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:40 pm
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Shaping up to be a classic this.


 
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I only did a few CX races many years ago but 'get your heart rate back under control' is not a memory I have of them?


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:41 pm
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MVP really struggling in the 2 sand sections before the bridge, brutal every where else though!


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:43 pm
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better this time


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:45 pm
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now WVA is struggling in the sand


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:50 pm
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this looks ominous


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:52 pm
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Are we allowed full-on spoilers - names/positions etc ??


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:52 pm
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Not sure what happened to Piddles at the start but he's looking strong now💪


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:54 pm
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think it has to be done now.


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:56 pm
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Not sure what happened to Piddles at the start but he’s looking strong now💪

He kind of bounced off WvA a bit then got a bit swamped. Good ride to claw back the time he has.


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:56 pm
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yeah - went into the red though, by the looks


 
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Not sure what happened to Piddles at the start but he’s looking strong now

yeah thanks to the ****ing bbc running late


 
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Not sure what happened to Piddles at the start but he’s looking strong now💪

now going back again, too big an effort to catch Aerts?


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 2:57 pm
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it's amazing these two are so much better than everyone else team tactics don't even come into equation


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 3:03 pm
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Will he stop going on about WVAs time at the Tour... he says that like MvDP was sitting at home relaxing instead of winning his own races.


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 3:04 pm
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^^ oh the commentary is shite on pretty much every stream.


 
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I love bikes and I love the beach but I can't see the attraction in mixing them. Ever. Brutal course but it's given the right result with the strongest rider likely to win.


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 3:14 pm
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real shame about the puncture - could've been a classic race


 
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twas a spoiler. 🙁


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 3:17 pm
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Great race!!


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 3:18 pm
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Yeah it wasn't a course i thought worthy of a world champs, it was basically just a power monster course, i'd rather have seen a bit more of a tech course..

Can't argue with it for entertainment though, but not a course i enjoyed viewing.


 
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Did the UCI contract the trophy out to the Year 4 Art class at Oostende primary


 
Posted : 31/01/2021 3:27 pm
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Awesome viewing..think mvp would of had it either way he was really flying on the grass sections.


 
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