Crank cap.....what ...
 

[Closed] Crank cap.....what does it do??

24 Posts
17 Users
0 Reactions
1,153 Views
 SiB
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

I've just read that the crank cap is used for bearing adjustment.....can anyone explain this in laymans terms to me as I've always just put it on and tightened it fully thinking it was to prevent crank falling off!


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 3:18 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

No, its to preload the bearings. The pinch bolts hold the cranks on (assuming your on about shimano)


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 3:19 pm
Posts: 8857
Free Member
 

If you are talking about an external bottom bracket type set up then the cap just preloads the bearings and holds the arm in place while you do up the bolts. If you over tighten it you can actually decrease the life span of your bottom bracket bearings.


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 3:21 pm
Posts: 16362
Free Member
 

As david says. Assuming you mean HT2, earlier models its just a dust cap. Its the same system as the top cap on the stem


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 3:22 pm
 SiB
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Yes, slx.

"preload the bearings"??

I've fitted new bb and put on cranks using pinch bolt, I just dont understand what the crank cap does and concerned that i might be over/under tightening.

Sorry!!


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 3:24 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

[pedant]you shouldn't be putting any preload on the bearings - its to remove endfloat [/pedant}


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 3:29 pm
Posts: 251
Full Member
 

have you read the instructions?

imagine it's like a cup and cone bearing hub - you need to tighten the nuts enough to stop the wheel rattling on the axle but not so much that it binds.

For Shimano HT2 'finger tight with the proper tool' is normally about right.

park tool site is worth a look.


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 3:29 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

http://www.cyclistno1.co.uk/features/maintenance/shimano-ultegra-hollowtech-ii-crank-service.htm

The cap basically takes up the slack so the axle/cranks don't slop around (in laymans terms) 🙂


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 3:31 pm
 SiB
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Thanks, its becoming clearer now. There weren't any instructions but it was pretty self explanatory (apart from the crank cap which just looked like a 'spare part' that could easily be thrown away!)

Finger tight it is


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 3:34 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Have you got the crank cap tool?

[img] [/img]

If not you can use some fine nose pliers splayed out?


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 3:37 pm
Posts: 17762
Full Member
 

And you tighten this cap BEFORE you do the crank bolts up.


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 3:39 pm
Posts: 16362
Free Member
 

If not you can use some fine nose pliers splayed out?
...or a 5p


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 3:49 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

And you tighten this cap BEFORE you do the crank bolts up.

Yep. It doesn't need to be done up tight. Do NOT ride without it as your NDS crank arm WILL fall off.


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 3:56 pm
Posts: 9
Free Member
 

Sorry but thats wrong. The pinch bolts hold it on, not the end cap!


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 4:29 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

But the pinch bolts don't "pinch" without the cap. Trust me 😳


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 4:31 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Oh bloomin eck - the end cap pulls the non-drive cranks onto the axle splines and then the pinch bolts then tighten the crank arm onto the spines!


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 5:18 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

If you think you need the cap to hold the arm on that would suit the user name wrecker...it does the same job as a stem top cap.


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 5:39 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Nah, if you don't have the cap on, NDS arm falls off. Technically, this shouldn't be the case but in practice is definitely is.


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 5:46 pm
 mrmo
Posts: 10706
Free Member
 

you tighten up the top cap to remove any play, you then tighten the pinch bolts.

What you will find is that the pinch bolts tighten up and clamp the cap in place. Means the crank is going nowhere.

IF you don't believe me try and remove the top cap before and after doing the pinch bolts up.


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 6:03 pm
Posts: 25860
Full Member
 

echnically, this shouldn't be the case but in practice is definitely is.
I doubt it's cause & effect though
If your crank falls off, the cap is obviously gone too but that doesn't mean it was holding it all together


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 6:05 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

fortunateson09: Have you lost the odd shaped (like a "9") washer that's in the pinch bolt? It has a pin that locks into a hole on the cranks splined shaft. Another and probably the most likely cause of your NDS crank arm dropping off. I'm struggling to believe that the end cap is engineered to (i.e. was) holding you crankset on......like all things I could be (ok, probably am!) wrong!


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 6:14 pm
Posts: 8857
Free Member
 

The instances I have seen where the crank cap comes off then the arm comes off are nothing to do with the top cap holding the arm on. What happens is the splines in the arm are damaged, usually through being ridden with the pinch bolts not tight enough or one done up then the other which can deform the arm. Then the arm works outwards, pushes the end cap off quite easily and falls off. A small piece of plastic really doesn't hold the arm on.


 
Posted : 18/07/2011 6:44 pm
Posts: 9
Free Member
 

I did away with the plasic spacer with the little metal pin that stops the crank falling off, as I kept forgetting to hook it up when trying to take the crank arm off. 😳


 
Posted : 19/07/2011 11:45 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

[pedant]you shouldn't be putting any preload on the bearings - its to remove endfloat [/pedant}

That's not being pedantic. Being pedantic would be adding an excessive and academic level of accuracy just for the sake of it. Your comment is absolutely 100% necessary and relevant.


 
Posted : 19/07/2011 12:13 pm
Posts: 194
Free Member
 

lost mine months ago and the crank hasn't come off.
I'm really asking for it now...


 
Posted : 19/07/2011 12:22 pm