[Closed] Crank Bros Eggbeater Fail And Questions!

[i]has anyone else had these fail mid ride?[/i]

no one ever, google will return no results at all 😉

can't see how they'd sieze if the bearings hadn't broken up inside, though?

I had the main pedal shaft/axle snap on an egg beater, leaving a sharp "shank" sticking out of my crank. I was on my road bike, and wondered how my foot was on the ground, yet I was still clipped in.

I find it odd that people have some many issues. A quick check of the end cap from time to time and give them a quick regrease to extend some life and they are fine. Ive had multiple pairs for multiple years with no problems. My Candy's are just starting to give up after a couple of years so £15 to keep them alive isnt a big deal and its a simple job. I would bet that unless you've ruined the spindle that a new bearing kit will see them running fine again.

quite a few years back when i was looking to change from shimano spd (i was'nt getting a year from them) to egg beaters there were a few threads like this. but me, i just periodically grease them and i've never had a prob (touch wood). do need some new cleats though, must get onto that.

and then you've got both crank bros and 2pure legendary customer service def worth buying the stuff 2pure distro for that alone.

just wish i could figure out if the bearings are a standard off the shelf size, must look into that again!

was'nt there also someone in the US doing rebuild kits cheap?

oh dont get me wrong i love the simplicity of the pedals and servicing, which ive done before may i add on these, probably not for 4 months or so mind and its been a shit winter lets face it....

the bearing on the seized side was a bit rough, not replaceable rough imo, it seemed like the outer pedal had seized onto the axle rather than the bearing fail i think,as you say the bearing would be ko'd if that were the case

im just hoping it was causing my noise more than anything, it was obviously drivetrain related as it happened on every revolution but cant rule out the drive train i guess, although its been silent on 1x10 for the past year 🙁

you'll now see tons of eggbeater fail postings BUT I love mine and like others have said, I've been using some on four bikes for many years.

Yes you do have to service them, but at least you can which is more than can be said for most pedals. And they are light weight and dont clog.

I cant see how yours failed, doesnt make much sense, I suspect you should buyna rebuild kit and rebuild them anyway just in case. its only 15 quid. the only time a pair failed on me was simply because i ignored the rough feeling in them too long. D'oh.

I've just accepted the Candys are disposable pedals, but as I like them I consequently just buy the cheapest ones and when they fall apart, buy another set.

I've tried the dearer ones and they lasted no better.

Also found that because the cleats are quite soft I also replace them at the same time.

**hijack**

did you sell the pro 2 end caps?

do the latest eggbeaters have bushings inside? i must say when i serviced them last night i couldnt see any? unless they were that covered in black i missed them?

The lower-end Crank Bros pedals have bushes at one end.

[i]do the latest eggbeaters have bushings inside[/i]

I think the cheaper ones do.

mine are the 3 ones? i think about £90? i dont think anything was in there but i wasnt in the greatest light to see through the pedal TBH

3's don't, and shouldn't have fallen apart as they're the new design which are guaranteed for 5 years. I'd be sending them back.

quite a few years back when i was looking to change from shimano spd (i was'nt getting a year from them) to egg beaters there were a few threads like this. but me, i just periodically grease them and i've never had a prob (touch wood). do need some new cleats though, must get onto that.

That's my experience too (including the need for new cleats).

3's don't, and shouldn't have fallen apart as they're the new design which are guaranteed for 3 years. I'd be sending them back.

quite a few years back when i was looking to change from shimano spd (i was'nt getting a year from them) to egg beaters there were a few threads like this. but me, i just periodically grease them and i've never had a prob (touch wood). do need some new cleats though, must get onto that.
That's my experience too (including the need for new cleats).

Cheers njee- interesting that least i wasnt being a numpty not spotting the bushing! like i said i have put them back together, and touch wood by hand they feel ok and spin ok....i knew something was slightly wrong as the other one was spinning stupidily fast, the one that failed seemed normal until it actually stopped completely...

might email 2pure see what they say, if nothing comes of it im quite happing just getting a rebuild kit as you say they are bloody good pedals, my xtr lasted a year if that and i couldnt fix them, i much prefer the ride of the eggbeaters and i much prefer the fact you can service them in 10mins easily

mine are the 3 ones? i think about £90? i dont think anything was in there but i wasnt in the greatest light to see through the pedal TBH

In that case, I'd put my money on the needle bearing falling apart. I have Eggbeater 3s, and I've had the needles inside of the bearing come loose and therefore jam in between the axle and the rest of the needle bearing, preventing it from properly spinning.

A rebuild kit should see you right. As the needle bearings (the inner bearing) seem to fail first in my pedals, I'm considering just replacing them with the bushing you get in the Eggbeater 2 kit in future to see if that lasts longer.

Also - quick tip when servicing them - make sure you use a really big screwdriver on the end caps. They get chewed up pretty easily if you use a regular flat bladed screwdriver.

I've been putting off getting some 3's I must say as my ti axled normal ones are lighter, but I think the jaws are now getting sufficiently worn that the retention is getting a bit vague. Could just stick a new body on though I suppose!

pixelmix - cheers for the info....

just a quickie though, mine only had 1 bearing in either pedal? what exactly is the needle in the bearing 😳

yep good tip, i found out the hard way with the plastic end caps 🙁 but the 3s come with metal ones which seem easy enough to get off thankfully

im seriously impressed with the eggbeaters, they are by far the best pedal ive used, they are a godsend in winter/snow as it just clears so you never have an issue clipping in, id buy them again tomorrow though! im sure they'll be ok now, and by the sounds of it at worst a kit will sort it properly

just hope it cures the clicking noise too!

just a quickie though, mine only had 1 bearing in either pedal? what exactly is the needle in the bearing

You're probably seeing the outer bearing which lies just behind the retaining nut.

The needle bearing is at the other end of the body - i.e it sits between the pedal body and the crank arm. If you squint inside the pedal body you should be able to see it. You get a little metal bar with the rebuild kit which you tap through to get that bearing out - it sits quite neatly so I can see why you would miss it.

Here is a pic with the needle bearings shown. I bet when you get them out, some of the little needles are dislodged.

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hmmmm ive honestly not seen some of those things before in my pedals? you sure these needle ones are on the eggbeater 3's?

ive got the seal things, 2 bearings with blue seal, retaining nut and the end caps? thats all that came out of mine and all i could see through outer pedal?

and i take it those needle bearing ones are the ones next to the retaining nut in that pic? just to clarify?

and i take it those needle bearing ones are the ones next to the retaining nut in that pic? just to clarify?

Yes. They will still be in the pedal body as they fit in so tightly they won't fall out. You will need to tap them out with the metal bar. The Eggbeater 3 definitely has those needle bearings. The Eggbeater 2 and below have a yellow plastic bushing instead.

He's right!

ahh right cheers - so assuming the pedals gone back together and running ok spinning wise, im good to go?

ill order a full service kit though as well, sure they will do until that point though!

anyone know where to get a cheapish service kit then for the eggbeater 3's?

OW - i have some of the needle bearings here i can send out FOC for you. It's an opened rebuild kit with some parts missing. No rod for example but you can have the rest if you want it.

[i]"I find it odd that people have some many issues. A quick check of the end cap from time to time and give them a quick regrease to extend some life and they are fine"

"i just periodically grease them and i've never had a prob"[/i]

No amount of grease will prevent this.

http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/are-cleated-pedals-worth-getting-used-to-on-a-rigid-ss#post-4690174

One of my three month old Crank Bros Candy 1 pedals came off the pedal spindle mid-ride last night, ending my night ride apbruptly 😡

Luckily it didn't cause me to crash. Not good for a pedal thats done 20 rides maximum.

I had an old set of Candys get really stiff, but not seize. I bought a rebuild kit, but all they needed was a clean and re-grease and they were fine for another long while.

I have a set of the latest Candys now and whilst they are better and supposedly the problems of them slipping off the axles have been fixed, I have found that the metal clamping part (the whisk if you like) is going a bit rusty after a year or so of use.
I get about 4/5 months out of a set of cleats, but they are used daily.

I get 4/5 months out of cleats used weekly at most 😕

guys - just quickly you know the needle bearings on the 3's or above, does it matter which way it goes in? ive just got some as the rebuild kit, they look slighltly different at either end but nothing suggests which way in is correct? before i bash them in can anyone shed any light please?

ojom thanks for the offer just managed to get some though

I get 4/5 months out of cleats used weekly at most

I use them daily on my commute on the road.
you're probably using them weekly offroad in more abrasive conditions?
I do tend to replace them when they pull out easily though, and the edges are razor sharp and polished from wear.

OW, don't remember there being a particular way round but it's a couple of years since I rebuilt a set.

you're probably using them weekly offroad in more abrasive conditions?

Indeed I am, but yes I replace them when they start pulling out.

I have a set of the latest Candys now and whilst they are better and supposedly the problems of them slipping off the axles have been fixed.

...supposedly not on my ride last night, only a few months old too.