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Most people in this forum don't ride, they just own a bike and hate their lives. It's why they live in the chat forum so much.


 
Posted : 21/12/2019 5:00 pm
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People who join groups to tell others in the group how shit they are, they are the best kind of people.


 
Posted : 21/12/2019 5:14 pm
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Absolutely the best kind of people.


 
Posted : 21/12/2019 5:18 pm
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Flashing lights, at both front and rear, have more of a negative safety impact than positive and are hugely antisocial to other cyclists.


 
Posted : 21/12/2019 5:28 pm
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People only ride mtbs because they are either too fat or not fit enough to ride road bikes.

People only ride road bikes because they lack the skill to ride off-road.


 
Posted : 21/12/2019 5:35 pm
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Cycling is better when you’re wearing sunglasses.

100% correct at all times.


 
Posted : 21/12/2019 5:43 pm
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GT Zaskar is a total disgrace to its roots and should not be adorned with the legendary name until its redesigned back to a hardcore hard tail.

Testify brother!!

Although thats not controversial, its a fact.


 
Posted : 21/12/2019 6:30 pm
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Tubeless is way more faff than many will readily admit

I was a very early adopter, it was amazing, it genuinely improved my riding, but still I just gradually sort of drifted back to tubes, and somehow just couldn't be bothered going tubeless again, and just sort if didn't miss it...

Still, 30psi in a 35mm CX tyre is pretty tempting...


 
Posted : 21/12/2019 7:35 pm
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The GT Zaskar, like all GT bikes is and always was an ugly bike


 
Posted : 21/12/2019 8:27 pm
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large group rides should be discouraged seen pics of local ride 60 ish riders on it, just wrong

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Posted : 21/12/2019 8:44 pm
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Disc brakes are worse than rim brakes for UK winter road riding.


 
Posted : 21/12/2019 10:22 pm
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Bloody hell bruneep when did the ramblers take up MTB?


 
Posted : 21/12/2019 10:29 pm
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If you can't trackstand properly then I can't really respect you as a rider.

Disc brakes on road bikes look bad, no matter the bike.

My wife is scathing about people who rode with their knees sticking out and I love that.


 
Posted : 21/12/2019 10:34 pm
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Fisting is not necessary on group rides.


 
Posted : 21/12/2019 10:36 pm
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Mountain bikes, mountain biking and mountain bikers are all pish boring 😜


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 5:09 am
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Gmbn is crap and doddy looks like one of the double take brothers with that stupid haircut, also ebikes are for tourists, dropper posts and flat pedals are for wimps who can't ride and uplift and bike parks are for men who wear skinny jeans and are bullied by Thier girlfriends, happy Christmas


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 7:26 am
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SPDs are like those stretchy strings that go up each arm and across the shoulder, from glove to glove, for thick, clumsy kids that canny keep their gloves on.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 9:47 am
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Your frame doesn't bend enough to be compliant

Wheel weight matters much less than everyone claims. The twice as much as benefit as weight saved any where else thing doesn't apply when your riding up hill or if the weight is saved in the hubs.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 10:06 am
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Fisting is not necessary on group rides.

Strictly necessary? No.

But you'd have to be a churl to deny that it can add a certain je ne sais quoi to what could otherwise be a fairly vanilla experience. Though in fairness it can have connotations from a saddle soreness point of view. Best to carry large jars of bum butter, just in case..


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 10:31 am
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Flat pedals work fine on road bikes

Problem for me was not the pedal but the shoe! Very few sleek, light, non 'spongey' uppered, roadie looking flat shoes around.

Disc brakes are worse than rim brakes for UK winter road riding

Amen brother! That makes two of us now, the resistance starts here!


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 10:33 am
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Properly trained trail hounds (ie ones that have been buzzed a few times by 2.4" of high speed rubber) that know where they should be at, massively improve the ride experience. They're also way more competent at climbing, descending and ridingalonging than the practically hairless bipeds teetering along on their overpriced metal machines some way behind them..


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 10:37 am
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I got undertaken on a corner by a properly trained trailhound while riding in North Van, awesome/humbling/hilarious/distracting all at the same time!


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 10:46 am
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Disc brakes are worse than rim brakes for UK winter road riding

Interested in this bollocks - do you actually mean that rim brakes stop you better? **** knows what abomination of discs you’ve tried, if that is the case!


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 10:49 am
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Rather like the Picolax thread, the whole Mint Sauce collection is one humorous idea stretched out until it became exceedingly boring.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 11:22 am
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There's no such thing as a stupid question about headsets.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 11:35 am
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Interested in this bollocks – do you actually mean that rim brakes stop you better? **** knows what abomination of discs you’ve tried, if that is the case!

My experience: Disc brakes need to get hot, so gentle rolling winter road rides in rain and puddles = cold wet rotors = squeeeeeall

Stock tektro callipers + Swisstop BXP pads = adequate but silent braking. Bliss.

If someone develops a guaranteed silent disc brake, I'll be all over that bandwagon like a shot!


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 11:52 am
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I've been a spectator at one world cup cyclocross race. A very muddy course. It was about 90% rim brakes. The teams stated that disc brakes were great in the dry but not enough modulation on the wet. There was a thread on here about it


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 12:00 pm
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Bikes with 50T cassettes and a piddling 28T chain ring up front look ridiculous

2x10 provides the ultimate gear set up for nearly all cycling applications


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 12:35 pm
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Medium gear (72") is the correct gear for all occasions.
Except when it isn't.

Training for an event is cheating. A gentleman relies on his natural athletic ability.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 12:52 pm
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Big groups of roadies all wearing matching tops. ****ers.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 1:16 pm
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Problem for me was not the pedal but the shoe! Very few sleek, light, non ‘spongey’ uppered, roadie looking flat shoes around

Why do they need to be sleek and roadie looking. Five ten freeriders, all bikes all days!


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 2:22 pm
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Schrader valves are OK for tractors or for gorillas who lack any mechanical feel.

Bikes should use Presta valves.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 3:00 pm
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Continetal vertical pro's are tosh.

Rockshox damping is just odd, unless on thier latest uber-fork.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 3:03 pm
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Training for an event is cheating. A gentleman relies on his natural athletic ability.

This is same school of bollox that gave us "A bad workman blames his tools"

Bikes should use Presta valves.

How is this controversial?


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 3:06 pm
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Endoverend...

Most modern full suspension trail bikes aren’t actually that nice to ride on anything other than downhill, they pedal badly and have poor ride feel compared to nice all-round bikes from the past.

In my opinion (which may be weird, as I am weird) is that modern bikes outside of fully fledged XC bikes have not taken great leaps forward in actual proper pedalling ride quality – you know the actual type of riding where going uphill, covering distance are a big part of the ride.

Modern shocks are too good at sucking the bike to the ground for descent orientated riding and seem to absorb pedalling energy. Bikes are bloated in weight to handle ‘youtube’ riding- and this kills the climbing ability…which if you ride in the mountains is a big part of any ride.

Manufacturers seem to have forgotten that OldSkool thing of pedalling ride quality being an aim…..and is why we logically end up with e-bikes to negate all that.

Utterly, completely true. You've totally hit the nail on the head there. Bikes that are great downhill are not so great uphill/xc, so people don't enjoy uphill/xc. So bikes get even more downhill orientated to the extent that people dislike riding them any other way so much that they need to put a ****in' engine in them to make them bearable.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 3:20 pm
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Big groups of roadies all wearing matching tops. ****.

Eh? What you mean club kit because you’re a member of a club?

And Rapha CC is not a real bike club. Eh Crazy-legs? 😉 . It’s for Jonny come lately cyclists who don’t appreciate the heritage of real cycle clubs (1893 in our case)


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 3:29 pm
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Today's CX World Cup race at Namur was better than any XC mountain bike race ever.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 3:44 pm
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@brownsauce you seem to be forgetting why 1x drivetrains were so popular to begin with. It wasn't anything to do with the promise of better gear ratios.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 3:53 pm
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The answer to 32x50 is spelled A-L-F-I-N-E, and it’s probably lighter too


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 4:09 pm
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If you use the phrase “send it” without being ironic, then you need to have a serious word with yourself.

Unless you’re in a post office.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 4:15 pm
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Fitting cranks 5mm shorter is not the magic solution to you being a clumsy oaf who can't negotiate a few rocks or roots without plowing your massive flat pedals into them.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 4:16 pm
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Rim brakes are shite and old fashioned. Disc brakes are just better at stopping you, slowing you down and allowing you to control your speed.

Weight of your bike doesn’t really matter unless you’re a professional.

Some of the best bikes I’ve owned have been heavy bastards.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 5:17 pm
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Weight of your bike doesn’t really matter unless you’re a professional.

without plowing your massive flat pedals into them.

**** me. Someone's cranked the ****witometer up to 11:-)


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 6:56 pm
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Steve_b gets overtaken by everybody and uses is brakes more than his pedals.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 7:16 pm
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Valve stems and tyre logos don’t have to be aligned.

Not all lawns need to be perfect.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 7:17 pm
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If a gravel bike is the best bike for the trails you ride, then you are riding the wrong trails.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 7:19 pm
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SPD lifts achieve the same (or often better) results than a ‘proper’ bunny hop.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 7:27 pm
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If a gravel bike is the best bike for the trails you ride, then you are riding the wrong trails

That’s never been in doubt, as the trails in question tend to be the only ones folk can ride to from their front door


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 7:31 pm
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The Sick! Bikes dudes are just misunderstood.

Sorry, I mistook this for ‘Defend the Indefensible’ on Fighting Talk.

I believe the tyre logo alignment and SPD lift ones, though.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 7:35 pm
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Most roadies look miserable because they are miserable because road riding is miserable.

Aluminium is the best frame material if you are after a balance of strength, light weight and affordability.

Torx head bolts have no place on a bike and are just the industry making things more difficult for the casual home mechanic.

Most SRAM components have at least two sub-components too many.

Expensive saddles are ridiculous.

Tread pattern, compound and carcass weight are all secondary to how easy the tyre is to get on and off the rim with cold hands.

Expensive waterproof jackets are pointless. They stay waterproof for about five minutes longer than cheaper thinner outer shells and the abrasion from pack straps and general gritty cack ruins them just the same. Under layers plus a cheap outer is best.

You don’t need ten thousand lumens of trail-melting light to have a perfectly good light set up for night riding.

Strava will soon start causing no end of bother with cheeky riding and access issues.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 7:55 pm
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You don't need Evil Knevil amounts of 'air' to be a good rider or enjoy a ride. In some bike magazines, there are more images with bikes with both wheels off the ground than those where they are on.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 8:18 pm
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SPD lifts achieve the same (or often better) results than a ‘proper’ bunny hop.

SPD lifts are proper bunny hops.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 8:27 pm
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Today’s CX World Cup race at Namur was better than any XC mountain bike race ever.

Just watched it, bloody hell, I've raced significantly easier mountain bike courses!


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 8:48 pm
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If you use the phrase “send it” without being ironic, then you need to have a serious word with yourself.

That and 'drop in' unless its something along the lines of Redbull Hard-line or visiting your mum for tea.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 8:54 pm
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If a gravel bike is the best bike for the trails you ride, then you are riding the wrong trails.

If a gravel bike is the best bike for the rides you can do from your door, then keep on enjoying it! (Not controversial, I know, but a point that needed to be made!)


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 8:58 pm
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My experience: Disc brakes need to get hot, so gentle rolling winter road rides in rain and puddles = cold wet rotors = squeeeeeall

Stock tektro callipers + Swisstop BXP pads = adequate but silent braking. Bliss.

If someone develops a guaranteed silent disc brake, I’ll be all over that bandwagon like a shot!

Ah, I see.. it's the noise! I can help! For silent disc brakes that work as well as your rim brakes - just spray WD40 on your discs before setting out. Bingo!


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 9:02 pm
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Any bike-specific cleaning product is at least 500% the price of an easily available identical substitute.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 9:06 pm
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Ah, I see.. it’s the noise! I can help! For silent disc brakes that work as well as your rim brakes – just spray WD40 on your discs before setting out. Bingo!

Funny, I remember doing the Ft Bill DH course in the pissing rain with V Brakes, but that doesn't help the industry add £500 and 1/2 a kilo to every new road bike sold, sooo yeah, rim brakes don't work in the wet 😉


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 9:17 pm
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£500 for a set of brakes? You're doing it wrong.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 9:22 pm
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Meh, hazily recalled difference between Genesis Equilibrium rim and disc models.

Now it seems £200 more gets you mechanical discs but Tiagra instead of 105, so lets say £300 like-for-like but 1 kilo in extra weight 😉


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 9:27 pm
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Plus tyres all come into 3 categories:
1) Up to 2.7, ie, just a normal tyre with a silly new name or
2) 2.8 or more, ie, shit.
3) Actually just a 2.5 with a lie painted on the side

Less controversial- boost is 100% horseshit. The supposed benefits are trivial and not all hubs even deliver it, many of the same benefits could have been realised with hub changes, and it wasn't even really needed for plus- my 142mm rear 29er Trek will take a 3.0. Which was shit, but still, it could do it.


 
Posted : 22/12/2019 9:35 pm
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No UK hill is big enough to warrant an uplift. Peddle you sissy!

A cold or hangover is not a valid excuse for not riding.

Anyone who buys a brand new bike is mental.

Wheel size should be a function of frame size. If you ride a small 29er thats mental.

Steel isn't real...titanium is

Peddling a bike that doesnt go anywhere is mental.

Riding on footpaths is not a crime it is a peaceful protest.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 7:43 am
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Santa Cruz is no longer a niche brand - they're the Raleigh Activator of modern times. To be fair their marketing team must be amazing.

Cyclists that don't say hello or nod back are tossers.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 2:07 pm
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cyclists that feel they need to say hello to me are tossers. I don't know them or need to acknowledge them just because they are also riding a bike.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 2:24 pm
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People who don't know the difference between peddling and pedalling should not be cyclists.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 2:31 pm
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Takes minimum effort to say hello - especially if they're looking right at you.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 2:31 pm
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Racing bikes is one zillion times better than just riding them. If I didn't race I don't think I'd ride at all


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 2:33 pm
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Peddle you sissy!

Fail.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 2:41 pm
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You do not work as hard on an eBike as you do on a normal bike. You might kid yourself that you do, but you don't. But, that's OK as everyone likes to be lazy sometimes.

The single biggest difference you can make to your enjoyment of riding is to lose some weight. You'll be quicker and you'll enjoy more elements of the ride.

Whatever you have in your backpack, half the contents. Unless you're out in the wilds you don't need more than a very basic tool kit and some water. The size of some of the packs I see when out riding is astonishing. This also plays into point number 2.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 2:58 pm
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A bell is the best thing you will ever buy for your bike and will reduce the possibility of confrontation with other people considerably.

all MTB tyres are pretty much the same.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 5:04 pm
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I don't find Rob Warner funny.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 5:25 pm
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Horses were lead into battle since year dot but now they're scared of pushbikes?
Snowflakes.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 6:07 pm
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People who don’t know the difference between peddling and pedalling should not be cyclists.

See also breaks and brakes.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 6:29 pm
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SPDs are more efficient than flats.

2.5mm makes a difference on pedalling performance on crank length.

Riding a bike means you welcome comments from other people on your choice of attire.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 6:34 pm
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Ha ha ha. The Ciaran Path and the Burma Road are indeed pish.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 7:04 pm
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Bikes don't have a cockpit.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 7:08 pm
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The maximum size of road group that should be allowed is 6 and if you fall off the back you should just go home

Jibbing should be done on a BMX not an MTB.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 7:08 pm
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Red bikes are not the fastest (that will be orange).

Cartoons involving mtbs and sheep were rarely funny.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 8:01 pm
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Cannock is an absolutely awful place to ride.


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 8:11 pm
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Putting your name on your frame means you are delusional and very selfish in bed.

It’s not that these people are being selfish in bed, it is just that they have very small willies.

This is easily disproved, but perhaps not on this forum 😉


 
Posted : 23/12/2019 8:21 pm
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