[Closed] Considering giving up MTB for Gravel - Will I regret it?

1 - Buy gravel bike - this could be second hand

2 -  Ride gravel bike

3 -  Decide if you enjoyed 2

4 - If yes keep gravel bike

5 - If no sell gravel bike

6 - If 4 decide if you can keep MTB as well

7 - If 5 no further action required with MTB

Hope that helps 🙂

Just sold my gravel bike and replaced it with a super fast xc 29er. Much better for me - just about as quick to the local trails and far more capable on them. For me a gravel bike was too much of a compromise - felt too slow on the road and anything remotely technical.

My son and I are riding the Evans Cannock MTB ride this weekend, so I thought I'd better dig out the mountain bikes and give them a clean, lube and check over before we set off. I knew that I'd put them away mucky after the last ride, but I perhaps hadn't appreciated just how dirty they were and it took a full hour to get them both looking like proper bikes again.

This was when I checked on Veloviewer and realised that they last time they were ridden was two rides at the start of August and before that, in late June! By comparison, the gravel bikes have been out at least once per week in the same period.

I feel a bit sad now. Do I need to hand in my STW login at the door as I leave? 🙁

OP - Did you always only ride MTB?

I thought I could span the gap and have my grass green on both sides by choosing one bike to do all my riding so chose a new monstercross/gravel bike.

Was soon aching for an MTB so bought a used one.  Now the grass is green on both sides.

Depending on your budget/space spend the most on the type of riding you like to do most, whether this is one or two (or more)  bikes only you can decide by trial and error.

@daern - I think you are fine - you actually ride a bike!

I've been riding the CX bike exclusively this month, love it when it's dry and will ride it nearly anywhere. When it's wet, though, it can be a bit of a handful over the rocks and I prefer the MTB. That's on 33 tyres though - common to use a bigger tyre on a gravel bike which would be more capable.

Selling a 4K MTB for something you've never rode sounds a bit precipitous. Like avdave says above, just get a good secondhand gravel / CX bike for a few hundred quid to see how the land lies.

"However there are enough farm, forest tracks a short road ride away for a gravel bike."

Do this riding on your current MTB. If you enjoy it, but want to make it faster, easier and fun in a different way, decide if it could be done on a faster xc 29er hard tail for example or a gravel bike. Then buy one if you think it is worthdoing

I don’t ride mega gnar, jumps etc and get as much enjoyment from the workout itself as I do riding trails.

That sounds like old school mtb, which lends itself to something like an Arkose.

@TheGingerOne  those tracks are short, need a lot of linking up via road, and are pretty flat and featureless. They would bore the hell out of me on an MTB hence why I don't bother.

Had a gravel bike for about 8 months thought it did nothing well and sold it. Happy using hardtail or roadbike in its place. Horses for courses I suppose but I would not be selling a 4k mountain bike to give it a go.

I've tried the 'do it all on a hardtail' approach, and most of my riding has always been from front door from roads to lanes to paths to bridleways, woods, hills and trails etc.

While I could do all of this on a hardtail, the more tourey/gravel stuff always worked out better on a rigid 700c/29er

Giving up a rigid bike would leave me with only *one* option for every type of riding.

The nearest I've gotten to ^ that^  Holy Grail was circa 2k Cannondale MTB with Headshock.  Light, responsive, tracking is near as damnit good as rigid when locked out, yet still 80mm smooth* travel for XC when required.

*£100+ per year service cost assumed

I'd dearly love to settle on one bike for reasons of storage space, headspace and simplicity in servicing, but any kind of all-day touring on a hardtail has been (so far) a bit crap IME when comparing to a decent drop-bar rigid bike.

The Vagabond IME beats the old Cannondale hardtail for

1. Everything except:

2. descents/sticky/rocky trails

The P7 +130mm spanks it for 2.

I've never ridden a top notch lightweight 29er hardtail so my views might change should that prove to be a worthier part-time gravel/tourer.  I somehow doubt it though.  It's a luxury to have two bikes that do 2 different things well, so if storage isn't a problem I'd just buy one of each.  Consolidation/compromise is still compromise.  If yr loaded then buy a 1.5k gravel and spend the same again on a hardtail  if you want upmarket options for each or either then buy used.  New paint soon chips.

There is only one correct answer to this question.

n+1.

As above, try a gravel bike, no one here can predict whether it's for you or not.

If you have a £4K mtb to sell then I expect you'll be able to buy a rideable bike on the proceeds if you regret that, obviously not a £4K one tho.

Sell 4k mountain bike and buy cheaper mountain bike and gravel bike. Arkose is only a grand-ish.

I love all my bikes, but I love how much fun stuff is on something a little less capable - probably because it matches me better 😀

I couldn't ride Jacob's Ladder on the CX, but it's great on the majority of bridleways and well fast enough on the roads.

As above, get a dirty drop bar badboy and see if you can't justify both when you know how much you enjoy the gravel (apparently some here don't)

As above, try a gravel bike, no one here can predict whether it’s for you or not.

Definitely recommended.  I found a decent LBS that let me try a gravel/monstercross for a long weekend.  You may find right of the bat that you really don't like it.  Costly mistakes easily avoided.

@Malvern rider  which shop? assuming you live in Malvern you are not too far away from me.

I scratched my gravel itch a year ago, did quite a few long rides with road link ups. After a full day of being battered on rocky descents, even fast grass descents, I realised I needed a front suspension.

I did the South Downs Way on a gravel bike with 33mm knobbly CX tyres, never again. While its eminently do-able (I did and lots of others also), it just got a bit painful and boring after 8 hours. XC hardtail, nice and light for me is the way to go.

If it is just gentle bridal ways that is all you ride and all you see you riding in the near future, then you probably don't need a £4k mountain bike. Just need to think over the winter when the bridleways are a messy muddy gloop and you have limited traction you might start to get bored and want to go play in the woods. Or you'll want to ride on the road and realise how compromised something like the Fugio is on the road.

I would have another gravel bike but it would be an n+1 for me.

Rigid 29er. You can do 'gravel' stuff and MTB with very little compromise. Genesis Vagabond or something from the Surly/Salsa range.

I can ride almost any trail ony El Mariachi, including steep rocky tech (would be better still with a dropper) but I also hold road PBs on it...

trailwagger, no, not locally to Malvern, it was a Genesis dealer in North Devon.

Worthwhile phoning around though, some stores carry test bikes, most charge a fee from what I p've seen, usually around £80.   I'd want to ride it for a couple of days on typical trails local to me.  Another option is to look at bike-hire businesses, maybe some do gravel bike options?  Hire bikes tend to work out more cost effective p/day than test-ride options where you have to pay. Whereabouts are you?

I tried this. Got rid of my MTB and bought a NS RAG+ as I can only afford one bike at a time. It was a nice bike, but really shit for riding off road if I’m being honest. I’m a fairly graceless rider and me and the RAG got out of depth quite quickly (falling off, bending bits of the bike etc). Now back to a mid travel full suss, better all round. Not bad for just arsing about on either. To be honest if I could have two bikes I’d keep the Flare and get a rigid MTB with some skinny tyres. A compromise, but less so than a gravel bike IMO.

If you can afford not to sell your mtb,don’t.

Not yet at least. It took me a few months to get the most out of mine.To become strong enough,tbh, new riding position, gearing etc. Now I ride it 99.9% of the time.

I still love a 100% off road ride when wide bars mean more fun. (tomorrow afternoon in Epping for example 🙂 )

If I were living in many places in the US I'd happily consider dropping my MTB for a gravel bike.

But someone at my LBS pointed out to me that in the UK things are perhaps more complicated, because 'gravel' riding tends to involve long road stretches to link nice very easy XC stuff (in the Dales and thereabouts for me). A gravel bike still works great as it does both road and offroad reasonably well, but it's often a compromise for both.

In other words, for me a gravel bike is great for most rides, but I'm rarely riding something where I think it's the ideal bike for that particular bit of a ride -- for half of a ride I'd be better on a rigid mtb, for the other half better on a dedicated road bike.

Personally, I also find drop bars are massively limiting on technical stuff, unless you put them really high, in which case they aren't really drop bars anymore... Then I feel something like Jones Loop's would be better..

So I now have a rigid MTB and a gravel bike with fairly skinny tyres 35mm, and I do more or less on the road depending upon what bike I'm on

I tried this. Got rid of my MTB and bought a NS RAG+ as I can only afford one bike at a time. It was a nice bike, but really shit for riding off road if I’m being honest. I’m a fairly graceless rider and me and the RAG got out of depth quite quickly (falling off, bending bits of the bike etc). Now back to a mid travel full suss, better all round. Not bad for just arsing about on either. To be honest if I could have two bikes I’d keep the Flare and get a rigid MTB with some skinny tyres. A compromise, but less so than a gravel bike IMO.

Interesting… I have seen the Rag+ on CRC and it looks great. What were you trying to ride it on that you got out of your depth?

In other words, for me a gravel bike is great for most rides, but I’m rarely riding something where I think it’s the ideal bike for that particular bit of a ride — for half of a ride I’d be better on a rigid mtb, for the other half better on a dedicated road bike.

So what do you ride then?  Road bike that would be even worse for half or a MTB that would be even worse for the other half.  Choice of bike is always going to be a compromise and the gravel bike is a good compromise between road and easy off road.  Understand why not everyone wants to compromise, i.e take the full suss bike and endure the road sections but the gravel bike is a good compromise nonetheless.

Some gravel bikes are being marketed as almost-as-good-as-a-mountainbike but that's a bit disingenuous because the limitations off road quickly become apparent when the trail gets lumpy and steep. As long as you accept that then they are fun bikes to have.

The beauty of a gravel bike is that you don't need to spend alot of money on them.. They are always going to be a bit compromised so Imo pretty pointless throwing money at them.. As no matter how light it is, or how nice the group set is, it'll still be compromised. They are basically like a early 90s mtb after all.. Part of the attraction is that they are a bit shit

Mtbs on the other hand arent, I see sense in owning a 4k mtb, but would struggle to justify spending half that on a gravel bike.

So basically.. Keep the mtb and but a cheapo second hand gravel bike off classifieds.

I have one, although it's not a gravel bike to me - it's an ATB...

So what do you ride then?  Road bike that would be even worse for half or a MTB that would be even worse for the other half.  Choice of bike is always going to be a compromise and the gravel bike is a good compromise between road and easy off road.  Understand why not everyone wants to compromise, i.e take the full suss bike and endure the road sections but the gravel bike is a good compromise nonetheless.

Sure, I mostly agree. All I mean to say is that, for the riding I do, a gravel bike is rarely the ideal bike for a particular bit of trail, even though it would often be the best compromise for a full ride as you rightly say. For that reason, I could easily spend much of a ride wishing I was on something else, despite an awareness of the compromise.

But I don't think is always the case, as there are types of trails for which for a gravel bike is basically the perfect bike and there is no compromise at all -- i.e. forest roads or estate tracks or the endless gravel roads of the US. The old military roads of Northern Italy that I went two a month back were a good example, too.

Anyway, for the OP, I think it depends on exactly what type of riding they're going to do. A light rigid 29er is probably not much (much) more of a compromise on roads than a more hardcore gravel bike, at least with some Thunderburt's or some similarly fast rolling tyre, but it'll potentially be much better offroad.

Interesting… I have seen the Rag+ on CRC and it looks great. What were you trying to ride it on that you got out of your depth?

Same stuff I used to ride my hardtail on and attempting to hit similar speeds. Natural trails around Macclesfield, Marple, Buxton and the Peaks mainly. I got it as I needed a bike for everything. Off-road, occasional commute, family time etc. Turns out I love being a hooligan the most, hence the return to something that is compromised the least in that respect.

I don’t do a great deal of road riding and I find the current bike copes with everything else much better than the RAG did. Might be different for you.

Love my gravel bike, its a bit more of a challenge on rough terrain and downright nasty on rocks and roots but it was never designed for that type of use anyway.

That said it would never replace my 29er Hardtail. I have learnt with gravel riding that you have to plan your route carefully to make sure you dont come across ‘ the wrong type of terrain’, wheras on my MTB i can just get on with it!

I did what most others seem to have done.  I had a Genesis CdA for a bit and thought it was great for local stuff.  Ended up wanting a light XC hardtail, so I built up a Cube Reaction GTC.

It's lighter, more capable and faster everywhere! Don't think I'd go back, but I do still find myself looking at the nice, light ones 🙂

I once had a cannondale cx bike. Found it uncomfortable and much prefer my xc 29er. I’ve sold the cx - not for me.

What happens if you ride a mountain bike on gravel? Do the tyres explode or something?

Depends how much you need or want to ride it on black top I guess?

All I know is that MTB's suck on road compared to anything like a gravel bike, and I'd say 90% of people with an MTB's have way too much bike and virtually never see gnarly single track.

A gravel bike is good for a very specific type of riding for me. That’s my winter commute which is 50/50 country lanes and bridle ways/ Paths. Couldn’t have it as an only bike as i like long distance road riding on the road bike and big days trail smashing in the peaks on my full sus waaaaaay too much.

All I know is that MTB’s suck on road compared to anything like a gravel bike

I’ve never found this to be the case. Yeah they are a bit slower, but that’s it. I commuted for a while on a Trek Stache with a 3.25 Vee Bulldozer out front. It wasn’t that much slower and a damned sight comfier. If you’re doing lots of miles I get it, but even my full suss is alright doing road distances between ten and thirty miles.

Gravel Bike. Compromised? Or versatile?

Personally I see it as the latter.

Rough, broken, potholey roads? Check

River/canal towpaths? Check

Gravel/farm tracks? Check

Forest fireroads? Check.

Trail centre blues (and some reds)? Check

Smooth-ish woodland single-track? Check.

The only places where it is significantly compromised (over a bike dedicated to the purpose) are smooth-ish tarmac-only rides, local techy, rocky, rooty, steep stuff, trail centre reds/blacks, and big mountain big bike terrain.

My gravel bike is by far my most used bike. I wouldn't sell a £4k bike MTB for one on a hunch. But I would either test out my gravel-curiosity by buying a used one for a few £00, or sell the MTB, buy a £2-3k MTB and a £1-2k gravel bike.

I also found a 29er hardtail barely slower than a CX bike on the road, and waaaaaay better off-road.

Plus I didn't resent it not being as fast as a road bike on road, whereas the CXer felt sluggish because I was used to going so effortlessly fast on a drop-bar bike.

Anyway, to answer the OP with another question - do you feel you've had enough of the fun side of off-road cycling and just want to concentrate on the boring bits? If so, crack on...

I have a road bike, a CX bike, a 29" hardtail, a 650b hardtail and a full sus 29er. I bet I could ride all of them over the same bit of 'gravel' trail with times within 5 seconds of each other. Unless you are challenging for the world championship of gravel riding it can't make that much difference Shirley? A £4k bike is worth keeping hold of, just change the tyres to suit what you're riding at the moment maybe...

I've got an arkose and it is a great bike - did Torino-Nice on it last month, raced cx on it a couple of weekends ago. I love it. But it's crap on anything but the mildest off road in comparison to pretty much any mountain bike. If you want to recreate that early 90s feeling that you could just get thrown off it into the undergrowth at any minute without warning, I guess it's perfect, but I'm too old to crash randomly now.

Trail centre blues (and some reds)? Check

I love my gravel bike, its by far the most used of my bikes. But it would definitely be compromised on any blue or red run I have ever been on. Sure it would be rideable no problem but it would be far slower than even an xc hardtail on anything remotely bumpy. Still fun, perhaps more so.. But it's like comparing a modern mtb to a fully ridged mtb from 25 years ago.. Before you even consider the fact it has drop bars.

It took a lot more skill to ride fully rigid MTB's (or ATB's as they were called) back in the day.

Not just the lack of suspension but the terrible brakes and 5 sprocket cassetes.

And then front shocks came in that used elastomer and had loads of play.

Trail centre blues (and some reds)? Check

I love my gravel bike, its by far the most used of my bikes. But it would definitely be compromised on any blue or red run I have ever been on. Sure it would be rideable no problem but it would be far slower than even an xc hardtail on anything remotely bumpy. Still fun, perhaps more so.. But it’s like comparing a modern mtb to a fully ridged mtb from 25 years ago.. Before you even consider the fact it has drop bars.

Hmm. Agree with the reds. The claim about the Blue was based on a quick blast I had on one of the short blue loops at CyB 3 or 4 years back on my Saracen Hack with 40/42c tyres. Ended up in the top 20 on Strava at the time for the whole loop.

I have said it before, but a gravel bike is not really suited to UK. USA/Canada or Australia they are prefect tools for the job. Once you don't have mile after mile of graded dirt roads I think a 29er hardtail is a better tool for the job.

I am lucky to have both and the blurred line where gravel bike becomes a chore and the hardtail takes over is far less gnar than you might think. If the roads have not been graded in ages, or there there has been a really extended dry period the 29er wins out i feel. Looses nothing speed and gains ever so much in comfort and safety. Yes the gravel bike can do it and even some singletrack but it is in the same manner as my 29er hardtail could go down the Fort Bill course.

The 29er was the N+1 for me. I was happy going from the trail bike to the gravel bike but there was a huge swathe of riding that neither was the best for. Strava tells me the gravel bike does the most ks and the most hours of all mine. Make of that what you will.

I have said it before, but a gravel bike is not really suited to UK. USA/Canada or Australia they are prefect tools for the job. Once you don’t have mile after mile of graded dirt roads I think a 29er hardtail is a better tool for the job.

Say it as many times as you like, you are still wrong.  I live in the New Forest and a gravel bike is perfect.  Can ride miles of gravel (fire roads) all connected up by tarmac roads.  The limited single track and more off roady stuff is actually out of bounds (sign posted as not for bikes) so if riding the routes you are supposed to be riding it is road and gravel only.

For riding in the New Forest a gravel bike is best, a road bike is also good if you are happy to ride gravel with narrower tyres (I am) and an MTB is completely unecessary.

So don't base it on where you live, the UK is more varied than you realise.

If your local MTB trails are shite, or you've lost your Mojo and don't fancy riding roads, Gravel seems a good option. However, unless you intend to race, or have some fetish for uncomfortable hand postions (but there's loads of hand positions on drop bars! 🙂  ) Then a good, light hardtail won't be much slower IMHO.

Then a good, light hardtail won’t be much slower IMHO.

It won't, in my experience it is about 1-2 mph slower.  Why would you want to go slower though?

I find no difference in comfort as the gravel where I live is no less comfortable than the roads (in fact in places it is more comfortable as it is softer when compared to a rough section of tarmac) so why not just use a bike that is faster and better suited to the variety of surfaces?

I find no difference in comfort as the gravel where I live is no less comfortable than the roads (in fact in places it is more comfortable as it is softer when compared to a rough section of tarmac) so why not just use a bike that is faster and better suited to the variety of surfaces?

But you're not him.. Nor are you me.

I find drop bars ridiculously awful and uncomfortable.... I also find a 29er more suited as not only can i do roads, gravel but i can go on whatever else too.

Anyway, to answer the OP with another question – do you feel you’ve had enough of the fun side of off-road cycling and just want to concentrate on the boring bits? If so, crack on…

Neither really, I still love riding my MTB, but family/work/everything else and the fact I have to drive somewhere to ride it means it only really gets ridden max 10 times a year.

I have a road bike already that gets used a lot.

The gravel bike will be used for quicker blasts from the front door that incorporate a little off-roading (hopefully more as I explore local tracks) I am not expecting to ride any gnar on it at all, probably give the Blue a try at FOD but that would be the limit. More likely I would spend a couple of hours riding the fireroads than trying to tackle singletrack on it.

Gravel bike sounds perfect for your intended use and is exactly how I use mine.  However I don't own an MTB and so using one 10 times a year is not something I have to consider.

If you get rid of the MTB will you miss those 10 times a year?

I find drop bars ridiculously awful and uncomfortable…. I also find a 29er more suited as not only can i do roads, gravel but i can go on whatever else too.

Yep, we all like different bikes for different reasons.  My point was referring to the speed aspect, but if you are happier going a bit slower then fine - a lot of people are happy to give up 1-2 mph for a bike that is more comfortable for them.

Lots of talk of gravel/CX bikes not being much quicker - surely it's about funner? Horses and courses innit. There are enough of us who cackle with glee at how sketchy red trails and bridleways can get with 37cc nearly-knobblies on a bike that's light and efficient enough to accelerate rapidly from that techy section you had to slow down for, or delight in how quickly that steep climb was despatched.

10 times a year is better than none though surely? I'm in a not dissimilar situation to you OP, its about 45 minutes drive before the terrain gets interesting but I can ride tens of miles of farm track, resurfaced railway lines and actual gravel from my front door. The MTB is best but the GB is still fun and more enjoyable than road riding for me.

Keep your current bike and scrape together the cash for something gravelly/cx. Pretty sure you won't regret it.

If you get rid of the MTB will you miss those 10 times a year?

Yes. I think I have already decided that the MTB needs to stay. Like I said its a 4k bike that I managed to get for 2k. If I sold it, chances are I wouldn't be able justify spending 4k on another bike to replace it.

Options for gravel so far are

Cotic Escapade

Pinnacle Arkose

Genesis Fugio

Whyte Something

Vitus Substance

The thing many people seem to miss about gravel bikes, rigid bikes, or anything not hardcore, is that there is nothing inherently less fun about these than a full-sus enduro or something.

Fun emerges from the combination of bike and trail. Being over-biked is normally boring, being underbiked is some combination of frustrating, annoying and petrifying. Many of my local trails would be less fun with anything more than a 29er hardtail with 80mm upfront.

Combining that logic with a consideration of how much free time people tend to have, and the type of trails accessible from the doorstep for most people in this tiny ecologically domesticated/decimated UK, and I reckon gravel bikes and rigid MTBs start to make sense as many people's primary bikes, and that's why I have one of each.

Of course if I had the space, money, a personal bike mechanic, and less fear of bike thieves I'd have 5-6 bikes from carbon roadie through to enduro machine...

The boardman 8.9 adv from Halfords for £1000 is well thought of I believe.

Just found this also, seems good value at £650

https://www.merlincycles.com/merlin-malt-g-tiagra-gravel-bike-2019-114706.html

Anyone have any thoughts on it?

Lots of talk of gravel/CX bikes not being much quicker – surely it’s about funner? Horses and courses innit. There are enough of us who cackle with glee at how sketchy red trails and bridleways can get with 37cc nearly-knobblies on a bike that’s light and efficient enough to accelerate rapidly from that techy section you had to slow down for, or delight in how quickly that steep climb was despatched.

Absolutely, I'll have way more fun popping off stuff and railing berms on a hardtail than I ever would mincing around it on a drop barred sketch horse.

YMMV.

The thing many people seem to miss about gravel bikes, rigid bikes, or anything not hardcore, is that there is nothing inherently less fun about these than a full-sus enduro or something.

Nope, only 2 bikes I own are a SC Bronson and a Merida cx bike. One is fun, the other is not. If it wasn't for the fact I'd destroy the magic mary on the Bronson on tarmac, I'd ride it everywhere. 😂

I didn’t find the gravel bike fun off road, to be blunt it was just shite. Decent on canal towpath and roads, but roads aren’t fun and the hardtail (or Flare) give more scope for messing about on the towpath. Riding down stairs, popping off roots etc. Plus comfier. If I could afford I’d have something like the old Karate Monkey with some semi-slicks and wavy bars over another gravel bike.

OP - buy a cheap gravel bike or see if anyone on here is willing to lend you one for a month or so, see how you get on. You might love it.

Say it as many times as you like, you are still wrong. I live in the New Forest and a gravel bike is perfect. Can ride miles of gravel (fire roads) all connected up by tarmac roads. The limited single track and more off roady stuff is actually out of bounds (sign posted as not for bikes) so if riding the routes you are supposed to be riding it is road and gravel only.

Sounds like the New Forest is a bit unusual wrt access, Kerley. I've not ridden there but looking at the OS map it looks like there's not a single bridleway to be found in the entire area? Seems weird, but there's a page on the OS's own site that refers to a 'vast network of bridleways'. So are all those paths technically bridleways or would it be equivalent to riding on a footpath?

So after extensive research and internet trawling I have hit the buy now button on a Genesis Fugio.

This is what it will be like in my head

Unfortunatley the reality will probably be more like this

I ride my Bokeh on lots of stuff - I find it very versatile. It's probably built up a bit oddly for most people - with a SON dynamo front, Nitto rack, lights and currently a Helmut Equipement bar bag (waves at Rodolphe). Currentlygot Bruce Gordon Rock'n'Road 650b tyres on for mucho mixed surface riding.

It does pretty much all that I want in and around the Surrey hills on day rides, over the summer we rode in the Cevenees off road, and then last month we rode TuscanyRoads. Next year we're going back to Tro Bro Leon, then a week's gravel touring in the Harz Mountains, Gravel Dash 5050, some S240's and maybe another week's lightweight travelling in the Bourgogne.

I like MTB because I like the technical challenge of quality descents, rooty, singletrack, rocks, steep, mud, cornering jumps etc. And I do occasionally get a buzz off a climb, esp technical ones, but they are essentially a means to end.
If you give them up, will you care?
If you don't care then perhaps gravel will be OK for you? Have you considered road riding too, I guess you could use the gravel bike for that anyway.

Outside of that, what exactly is the attraction of MTBing? That you can't get in any other thing (eg mates, trips, buying kit - you can get this from a billion hobbies/sports).

Of course you may be awesome enough that a gravel bike will be usable and lots of fun for you on typical cheeky enduro trails and more tech trail centre stuff, then you are not really quitting MTB though and it just comes down to bike choice. I often get smoked by a mate on a rigid 90's bike (spesh rockhopper) with V brakes, he only rides it a couple of times a year though as caning it on goood trails is real hard work for him.

Exciting times 👍🏼

Fatter is funner in the rough

Fugio seems a good choice by the look of it.  Look fwd to a write-up and pics (hint hint)

Outside of that, what exactly is the attraction of MTBing? That you can’t get in any other thing (eg mates, trips, buying kit – you can get this from a billion hobbies/sports).

I have always been a mountain biker, and I have been a roadie even longer than that. I switch back and forth between them form time to time, and others I ride them equally throughout the year.

The main attraction of MTB for me is wilderness, getting into the forest/mountains and escaping it all. I ride solo as I don't have any mates. So, in essence I don't think I will miss anything, but I know I will return to MTB at a later date so really giving anything up long term.

I think you will regret it. 10 MTB rides a year are better than none.

If you keep at it, there will come a point when kids are older and either MTBing with you or moving out and you'll still be MTBing.

If you stop, you'll miss it. Look at other sports - if you had a track car for instance and got it to the track 10 times a year I reckon you'd be getting your money's worth.

By all means go N+1 but don't give up on the MTBing.

The main attraction of MTB for me is wilderness, getting into the forest/mountains and escaping it all

Yeah well you will be able to do that on a gravel bike, perhaps not as deep into the the wilderness but I bet there is plenty of stuff. Good luck.

What is your mtb? Why not stick some gravel tyres on your current wheels and have a go...assuming its not a Nomad or something.

I don't get on with drops at all so I have a Santa Cruz Highball which now has some Panaracer Gravelking SKs on. It's quick enough on the roads, can take a 38 tooth chainring and is pretty good off them given the tyres. The fork is light enough that it doesn't feel like i'm dragging around weight on the road and you can lock it out from the bars for climbing. Off road having 100mm of travel makes it far more enjoyable than a gravel bike imo.

What is your mtb? Why not stick some gravel tyres on your current wheels and have a go…assuming its not a Nomad or something.

Stumpy FSR (in in the classifieds, stealth ad)

There is no way I would enjoy riding it on the road for any more than a couple of miles. At the moment I am more than happy with the decision made and I am quite excited to get out gravel grinding. Just got the text that the bike is despatched as well, so could have it tomorrow... eek

don't sell it. Like philjunior says your kids will be older and less demanding before you know it... and they might want to go mountain biking.

Just taking a few notable comments and offering my opinion having owned a gravel bike for a year.  Admittedly I think its orientated more towards offroad than road, (Kinesis Tripster AT) and my other bikes are old school 26ers so have not ridden a fast 29er in anger...

'I find drop bars massively limiting on technical stuff'  My preferred hold when it gets rough is on the drops, paired with a dropper post you can hunker right down and it feels quite secure.

'limations offroad become apparent when its lumpy and steep'  Agree, things can escalate from fun to fear pretty bloody quickly :d  But it gets the adrenaline going!

'A gravel bike is not suited to the UK'  Its brilliant where I am, oodles of bridleways across the South Downs.  Might not be so versatile in the grim mountains oop north 🙂

'Just think over the winter when the bridleways are a messy muddy goop'  One of my first rides on my Tripster was up a bridleway covered in that slippery slop that makes your MTB slither around on the spot before jamming the wheels.  It cut straight through all the mud and flew up the hill with very little effort, love riding it in bad conditions!

'I'd rather be messing about on roots and steps'  It does that too!  Just got to treat it nicely

I'll always keep an MTB though, although a gravel bike is great fun on swoopy singletrack in dry conditions, I can't see it being much fun nightriding through the woods on trails with roots and covered in leaves 🙂

Giving up is the thing for me, it's 3 hours forest roads on the gravel bike on Saturday morning and 90 minutes playing in the woods on Sunday. Still can't work out which I like best. Lucky to have both bikes I guess.

‘I’d rather be messing about on roots and steps’  It does that too!  Just got to treat it nicely

Treat it nicely is code speak for mincing isn’t it?

I can’t see it being much fun nightriding through the woods on trails with roots and covered in leaves

But with 650b 50mm tyres ?

Cool, the Fugio looks great.

I'd echo what Spooky said above and get a dropper for it. Makes a big difference getting your weight down at the rear when the drop bars already have you down at the front.

I ride a 29er set up for bridleways cycleways 3 ply tarmac country lanes  and single track. Going to a gravel bike for me would limit where I could ride, the 29er will go anywhere so next bike for me will be a carbon 29er with a better fork and some lighter bits and bobs. A good light wheelset is a given for this type of bike.

England doesnt really have enough easy access 'gravel' to really justify it so if its your only bike you will ultimately have to compromise.

I moved to South Australia a few years back. Sold all my bikes and just kept the tripster v1 with two 700cc wheelsets. Literally 1000s of kms of proper bona fida gravel roads that i can acess from my door plus easy access to other parts of the country with even more. Thing is the gravel is so gravelly in places that mtb tyres are more appropriate.

Even with all this, having a gravel bike as your only ride is still a compromise. i feel that i now need a hardtail xc plus a gravel bike. However, as i dont have the cash for both i am moving to a platform (Bokeh) which will allow me switch between 3 wheel sets. 32c slick, 40c gravel kings and 2 inch 650b Pythons.

I now firmly believe that there isnt a one bike solution although bikes like the v2 tripster, bokeh, v4 warbird etc are getting close

Sounds like the New Forest is a bit unusual wrt access, Kerley. I’ve not ridden there but looking at the OS map it looks like there’s not a single bridleway to be found in the entire area?

Don't know as never used an OS map as I don't need one.  The gravel roads are the fire roads, i..e they usually have a locked gate at the end to allow access to fire trucks for any areas of forest that are on fire.  Also get used by the logging lorries.  They all have numbered cycle signs to guide people around (again never taken any notice of them as I just ride where I fancy - sometimes getting lost)