[Closed] Collective term for those going 1*11, etc.

Fmexit?

Late adopters?

Ramblers or Hikers

Cyclists?

Wunbee's

A FLoPP of single ringers
[b]F[/b]uture [b]Lo[/b]cal [b]P[/b]hysio [b]P[/b]atients

Sheep.

Loaded.

Northwind - Member
You have all the ratios you need to test it- just figure out which gears you'd lose, and go for a ride without using them.

You hear sometimes from people who jumped into 1x without really understanding what gears they'd have and then discover they needed the low gears, and frankly, they're mostly divs. Sure, you can get caught out by a ride that's outwith your norms (there was a kinlochleven enduro that became the Bonfire of the 1x10s, the long grinding climb broke so many people that thought 1x10 was perfect for them but actually just hadn't yet found a ride they couldn't do) but if it happens in your normal rides- you're a div.

Divs...

foresight...

eg: look mum, a foresight of 1x riders going by!

Is there an agreed term for those wishing to leave front mechs and going to a single ring up-front?

Can't think of anything at the mo:)

erm....mountain biker?

...an afterthought?

I was 1 x 9 😀 34/11-36

Maybe the collective term is a 'singular' lol!

Or an 'exasperation' of riders, running out of gears.

Sheep.

I'll be honest I went 1x9 because, I still don't know even with a 30t front it was stupid. Mates said "you get used to it" and you do to a certain degree - I missed the top end more than anything.

1x 10 with a bigger cassette and a 32t was a lot better but it's still not perfect.

Finally 1x11 with a 32t and 11/42 on the rear is even better - but there's getting away with it - there's still no silly low first for those "love a duck that's steep" moments.

I remarked to a mate at the weekend that I still don't know why I did it other than 'fashion' and he said "ah but you wouldn't go back to..." and made the sound of a chain sliding against a front mech cage you might get if you've not chosen the right mix of front and rear, "nah I guess not" and the rode off with a ****ed up chainline and slightly draggier louder front ring that seems to wear out every 3-5 months and throws the chain into the piantwork when it does.

ImHo there's pros and cons to 1x and 2x (even 3x) but being how many people threw themselves at 1x almost immediately im guessing it was a fashion thing.

I ran 1x8 back in '96ish.

Trendsetter, me.

Rich
Trendy
Gullible

Take your pick 😆

Loosers

plus one - Member
Rich
Trendy
Gullible

Take your pick 😆

and slx 1x is cheaper than an slx 2x now though... and 1x has been out since 2012, so hardly a trend... and, gullible?... come on, it works really well for so many people, which is why it's as cheap as it is...

I ran 1x8 back in '96ish.

some compromises only inherit the positives of the compromise it seems. 1x, 650b, tubeless...

I'll go with either losers or cyclists, depending on their attitude towards the fact that there is not only 1 right way.

I was 1x5 a decade before that

Is there a term for people who care about other peoples preferences for kit?

I can think of a few but none are polite.

Rich
Trendy
Gullible

Why would you associate people with no front mech as being rich. That's kinda odd?!?

Are there people still running front derailleurs!!!??

How very quaint!

Trail Centre Riders
Uplift Days Only
The Jedi'd

Loosers

You could lose a 'ring' from that post too.

Stronger riders than you.

Doesn't matter they are out riding their bikes.

Fashion victims

1x3 in '85. Have it.
( Grifter fwiw. I wanted a bmx 🙁 )

mikewsmith - Member
Doesn't matter they are out riding their bikes.

Exactly.

Who cares if you're riding with or without a front mech?

It's all good surely? 😀

1x3 here too, but not until '88 - Peugeot racer FTW.

scotroutes - Member
Loosers

No, Loosers is too close to the term for those who haven't gone 1X, the Losers 🙂

Went 2x9 a few years ago and just swap the chain when needed, I really am more of a spinner up climbs so it's better for me and I buy the cheaper, harder wearing parts due to not caring about weight so they last ages

jamesmio - Member
Wunbee's

Yup. I reckon this is the best epiphet. Perhaps improve the spelling and grammar slightly though...... Oneabees

foresight...

eg: look mum, a foresight of 1x riders going by!

Skin, not sight.

Modern
Marketing whores
Rich and dumb for anyone who's got Sram eagle 😀

I have 1*11 on one of my bikes, and still looking to ditch the 2x on the fatbike...but seriously I don't need too, I just want too.

Enlightened. Obviously that is only for me and the riding I do. If I lived in other areas or rode differently I would have to chose Compromised. But I don't, so enlightened I am.

Really can't think of a ride, either in the South Downs where I live or in Wales, Shropshire, the Purbecks or Northern Italy where I've ridden in the last few years that I've regretted 'only' having 30-11/42. Not when racing Southern Wnduro, or when on a 6 hour ride around Llangollen area, or on a 50 mile New Forest bash with guys on cx bikes. I'm not that fit either. Mind you I still remember running 36-12/28 back in the '90s.
What I don't tend to do is sneer at the component choices of other riders, that's a bit of a dick move...

1x3 in '85. Have it.
( Grifter fwiw. I wanted a bmx )

but the sturmey archer thing was so bad it was more like 1x2.5 or 1x2, since one of the gears would always slip out, and your knees would smack the handlebars. not the bit with the silly foam rubber padding either.

Wowser!

Some very polarised views.

I run 3*8, which seems to work great, regardless of the chain angle. But it seems to be harder to find 8 speed octalink chain sets.

greatbeardedone - Member
Wowser!

Some very polarised views.

Quiver?

HL&S

#Legends.

You would have been disappointed scotroutes - after all you make me quiver 😉

Time travellers? Didn't we all do this about 3 years ago

In hindsight, i should have grabbed 1x10 bargain bits as i came across them last year, given how the value of the pound has tumbled since that crazy vote of my lifetime.

Financially, I'm feeling locked into 8-speed on the Wazoo now. There was that bargain XT shifter pair for £40 recently, but who knows how long it would take to get all the other bits without breaking the bank.

Humungaschlongedsexmachines?

#singles?

If we're bring true to the sense 'Judgemental'

one-anists?

what scotroutes sid up there somewhere^^
except it's a stable for bikes/steeds, not a quiver. quiver is a collection of N=N+2 skis
have 1x, 2x, 3x, no tubeless, dropper, no dropper, 26, 650b, and 700c.

Apparently, only one of my bikes is acceptably "right" (nearly).

one-anists?

Best answer so far for me 🙂

for all things like this, wheel size, tubeless, dropper posts, drivetrain etc

I had no idea there was so much anti 1X. I see words like "rich", "fashion victims", "gullible", "sheep",

WTF ??? It says much more about the ones using those words than anything else.

Rich ? Cycling stuff is cheap as chips and the move is sometimes cost neutral anyway (it was for me when I first did it 7 years ago).

It really is simple : it works for me on ALL levels for MY riding. I have no issues whatsoever with anyone using more than 1 ring so why can't that work the other way around.

Each to their own is a very very simple concept to understand.

3x9 here, to be honest I could get away with 2x9 or maybe 2x10.

That said I go through a cassette about once a year, so an ultra trendy 1x12 just wouldn't make financial sense given how eye wateringly expensive they are.

Why are they so expensive, it's just an extra sprocket or two?

Cycling stuff is cheap as chips

Rich ? Cycling stuff is cheap as chips

Seems you're answering your own question there.

That said I go through a cassette about once a year, so an ultra trendy 1x12 just wouldn't make financial sense given how eye wateringly expensive they are

My XX1 cassette is coming up to 3 years old & has about 6000km on it. The steel bit still looks new & will take a new chain. The 42T big ring I can replace separately.

You could say it's expensive because it's very light & lasts a very long time.

1x5 with short stem, wide bars and slack HA (at least it seemed) back in '86.

Oh yes that Raleigh Maverick was wwwaaayyyy ahead of its time!

I'm so anti 1x I'm going to run a triple up front with Sram eagle..
36 gears!

😀

36 gears!

1000% range... assuming 22-32-44.

"Fit/strong enough"
or
"bad at adjusting front mechs"

mattyfez - Member

That said I go through a cassette about once a year, so an ultra trendy 1x12 just wouldn't make financial sense given how eye wateringly expensive they are.

I don't really know why, but I find 1x cassettes wear slower. Not just posh SRAM super-cassettes, even my expanded XT setups on the other bikes outlive a normal XT cassette by a good chunk. The only thing i can think of is that the mud clearing is massively better, it spares them a lot of grinding... But it's a bigger difference than I'd expect from that really, that doesn't feel like the right explanation.

With my 1x11 SRAM, it's miles better than any previous cassette I've used, in the same use it's lasted about twice as long as I'd expect from XT. So I think it'll work out not actually much more expensive. Admittedly I'm paranoid about maintenance!

My XX1 cassette is coming up to 3 years old & has about 6000km on it. The steel bit still looks new & will take a new chain. The 42T big ring I can replace separately.

You could say it's expensive because it's very light & lasts a very long time.

That's fair enough if they last, but they don't make that clear in the marketing.

I just look at the price of the cassettes, shifter and derailleur, and go 'nope!'

Weird quotage going on, the forum still not fixed?

 

andytherocketeer - Member
Cycling stuff is cheap as chips

I have one groupset (funnily enough the 1x11) that cost more than one of my bikes. And it's only XT. Not one of the eye watering priced ones where the cassette costs half the price of a bike.
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sirromj - Member
Rich ? Cycling stuff is cheap as chips
Seems you're answering your own question there.

A SLX 11-speed cassette is £40 after discount and cash back. (£53 for XT)
A Sunrace 10-speed 11-42 cassette is £40 too.

I appreciate that the word "rich" is subjective but we are probably talking at cross-purposes here.

Surely those costs are not exactly crippling, or maybe I have been evolving in a very privileged socio-demographic environment without realising.

"Only XT" : I thought XT was near the top ??

Very odd stuff going on here !!

and SRAM managed to make a cassette costing 3 figures
my groupset was about 500, bike less.
500 is not what I call cheap, and yes XT might be 2nd top of Shimano (mechanical) range, but SRAM have managed to make 4 groupsets higher than or equal to that, so 4 figure sum is very easily attainable (also for Di2).

I can afford it. Every single component on all 5 bikes have always been new. But I don't call things cheap as chips. Specially not cassette prices that practically doubled going from 9 to 11sp.

andytherocketeer - Member

and SRAM managed to make a cassette costing 3 figures

Hardly a first. But just because there are expensive parts doens't mean you have to buy them. £40 for SLX is pretty close to what it cost for 9-speed SLX when that was new (and of course that was several years ago, inflation and exchange rates are price drivers too)

+1 - odd, very odd stuff.

Profit margin

TCORs
Trail Centre Only Riders

A trail centre only rider and her trail centre only bike

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TCORs
Trail Centre Only Riders

Why ? I have been riding x1 for many years yet I have never been to a trail centre.

This is getting more and more bizarre!

one-anists?
Best answer so far for me

I was hoping this hadn't gone already - I'm way too late to the party!

For my 2p, I have a mate who rides 1 up front, it works really well for him, but he weighs flip all so it's easy to live with the limited lower end gears. I weigh lots so have 2. I don't really think either of us are one-anists, merely different. Weird eh!

The thing that makes me laugh about all this is that the 1x* users think everyone should be 1x ists and that having a front mech is wrong or backward.
But if someone has a perfectly good set up that they're happy with and isn't broken or worn out, why should they fork out for a new set up? Regardless of whether it's 'better'!
I've got a 1x10 mtb and a 2x10 mtb and like them both equally.

The thing that makes me laugh about all this is that the 1x* users think everyone should be 1x ists and that having a front mech is wrong or backward.

I haven't seen any 1X* users do any of this in this thread.

I have only seen quite literally the opposite in this very thread. Non-1x* users calling people they don't know "rich", "fashion victims", "trail centre only riders", etc...

Most bizarre thread.

maybe not in this thread, but you don't need to look very far though....

The thing that makes me laugh about all this is that the 1x* users think everyone should be 1x ists and that having a front mech is wrong or backward.

They do?

I mean yes, 3x is a bit "backwards", essentially multiple chainring drivetrains are a hangover from when MTBs first appeared and there were no mountainbike specific drivetrain parts, so what we got were essentially just touring cranks and cassettes...

Times moves on, and is it any wonder that as cassette ranges increased people started trying to simplify things a little by tailoring the gearing range more to their current use and eliminating any unused components?

But I am more than willing to accept 2X and 3X drives work and are useful, winching a laden bike up a bloody great Hill is substantially improved by the ~17" gear that having a granny provides...

Elitist

Show off

Inadequate 😀

maybe not in this thread, but you don't need to look very far though....

Why on earth would you look for stuff like that ?

How weird can a thread get?

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