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There are always those ones, aren't there, that, even though you've done them loads of times, are always harder and/or longer than you think. And they're not necessarily that long, or that hard, but definitely more so than you had in your head when you started, and they get you every time....
Example one - the track from the drive up to the Cage in Lyme Park. Every time I think "oh, I'll just spin up to the Cage", and every time, about halfway up, I'm thinking "bloody hell, this is harder than I remember".
What's yours?
The climb up the blue at glentress always feels like a proper slog! Much more slog than a blue should be! 😄
Y Wal at Afan... i always forget the stony steeper bit about 1/3 of the way up that drags on a bit.
Example one – the track from the drive up to the Cage in Lyme Park. Every time I think “oh, I’ll just spin up to the Cage”, and every time, about halfway up, I’m thinking “bloody hell, this is harder than I remember”.
Have you been up the road out the back of Lyme Park? Goes under the canal then starts climbing. And it goes on for roughly 37 miles...
we've got a beautiful couple around QECP
in the summer they are nothing but ~10 minute climbs
but in the correct conditions the fireroads turn into inches deep thick sticky clay/chalk mud that makes an already soul destroying climb, into one of utter regret
and it doesn't stop there, once you complete the climb you end up with probably another KG of the stuff on your tyres
Stairs up to my bedroom!
Quantocks, the climb up Bicknoller Combe (I think it is) up to the main ridge, comes out just along from Bicknoller post. Never gets any easier.
Have you been up the road out the back of Lyme Park? Goes under the canal then starts climbing. And it goes on for roughly 37 miles…
You mean Shrigley Lane? Yep, many a time in my yoof, when we wanted to escape our grim childhoods on the mean streets of Poynton. And yeah, it keeps on giving (especially if you go for the full Bakestonedale experience)
Streat Bostal - it always has a kick at the top no matter how fit you're feeling
The climb up the blue at glentress always feels like a proper slog! Much more slog than a blue should be!
Oh yes, I've only done it once, but it seemed an awful lot of uphill for a short downhill.
And Llandegla. Is it 3 miles uphill, straight from the cafe? Certainly felt like at least 3 miles.
there's a hill up to the car park at barbury castle near swindon. i remember that being a lot tougher than it should (haven't ridden up it for years though).
Chew Reservoir access road
Truleigh Hill going East from the river Adur / A283. It's not even long. It doesn't even look hard. There are no corners.
But it's deceptive and has it gets steeper, the trail gets broken up into gulleys and flintstones and shit.
Maybe I am too unfit or old but even when I was young I struggled... Very rewarding at the top though.
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I find every climb longer and harder than it should be!
More practice needed I reckon 🙂
The Golden mile from Coniston side up to Tarn hows
I did this as part of an MTB route on Long Mynd
I thought road climbs on an MTB aren’t that bad. I was wrong
Asterton Bank
http://shrophills.blogspot.com/p/asterton-bank-long-mynd.html?m=1
I think traffic and a broken that edge meant I was very worried about wobbling
The first one back after the lunch stop..
The climb about 5 miles from home that I end up doing at the end of most long road rides. It's a 6-7% drag on chipseal with only one minor bend. Only about 65m up. I never ride it fresh so it always feels demotivating for its stats.
Also, Kop Hill in the Chilterns. Steppy rampy thing, momentum and pace killing sections of steepness that just beats me down. Whiteleaf Hill next to it is harder overall but has it's positives as a testing climb, I'd always rather go up Whiteleaf than Kop.
3 of us did the Bonnette on loaded MTBs with full size knobblies on a long time ago, that was a beast of a climb. Beautiful though, would do it again tomorrow. The worst climbs are the minor 50-100m featureless straight ones on bad surfaces.
I second some of those ascents on the Long Mynd, just unpleasant! 🙂
The start of the road up from The Old Hall in Whitehough heading over the A6 and towards Chapel always surprises me, though I have no idea why. I've ridden it hundreds of times and in my head it's virtually flat, so when it turns out that it isn't I find myself vaguely bemused. And repeat. I think I must have been a goldfish in a previous life.
+1 for Truleigh Hill, it's horrid, and one of those featureless 200m, straight ones with a horrid surface
Asterton Bank
That gets into the 'Classic Road Climbs' list, I think. Needed a lie down at the top first time I did it towards the end of a hot day at the Mynd.
The traditional answer to this is Fremmy Edge from Reeth in Swaledale. Fairly unrelenting and steep tarmac followed closely by baby head rocks..
Alternatively, Walna Scar from Coniston. You go into it thinking the road climb would be the warm up for the off-road stuff. It is not the warm up.
Y Wal at Afan… i always forget the stony steeper bit about 1/3 of the way up that drags on a bit.
I was going to post this.
There are also several in the Quantocks that're jusy bloody difficult. They just don't relent.
The canal home at the end of a big ride. Those tiny kicks up seem to hurt more than the actual climbs up the hills.
Linnets clough from Bottom's Hall, Marple.
The first bit is slightly rocky, mostly wet and a little steep in places, evens out, then climbs until the scout camp (Where I need a rest), then up on the lane to Gibb lane or right to The Banks.
Another climb is from Etherow Park carpark, Compstall, turn left near the Andrew's Arms and up and up and up, winding past the golf course, good views though to keep the mind sane.
We have suffered on those climbs, they are truly lovely:)
@IHN and @crazy-legs
Another Shrigley Lane fan / victim here!
Regularly used to ride that as a yoof, usually on the way back to my mate's house in Rainbow, and usually after a massive schlep round the peak with Cheshire & Peak MBC out of Bikes in Macc.
Bonkorama, many many times
Them were the days
The first* climb on the red route at Brechfa. Forest track, singletrack, forest track, more single track THEN more forest track followed by singletrack and then the climb continues on forest track for a bit.
It’s horribly endless and I never remember well over half of it.
*the whole red route is really just one endless climb back to the car park.
The climb up from Glenridding to the bottom of Keppel Cove.
I always think it's a quick twiddle before the real climb, but then I usually tackle it on the return leg of a Helvellyn double and it's horrible.
ogden water up withens new road, strava 'ogden cimb' its only 104m elevation on 1.78km
KOM circa 6mins although looks an ebike.
my pb just over 10 mins, 14 mins last week, always a damn headwind and needed a slash :0)
Done Polebank on the LongMynd (other side to asterton) - that's pretty hard, but not long. The climb to here https://goo.gl/maps/cCLAoJMkNbvgUghh9 goes on a bit.
Linnets clough from Bottom’s Hall, Marple.
The first bit is slightly rocky, mostly wet and a little steep in places, evens out, then climbs until the scout camp (Where I need a rest), then up on the lane to Gibb lane or right to The Banks.
Actually, you've reminded me, from Gibb Lane up Whetmorhurst Lane. I always forget how that gift keeps on giving too.
Afan +1
I always think the measure of a horrible climb is when you think it would make a really good descent.
That and you just sort of get to the top of it and then ........ climb a bit more?
Dudbridge Sainsbury's up to Rodbrough Fort, it's the Walkley Hill bit up to The Prince Albert that always stings.
This one in the Brecon Beacons:
It's not particularly steep, technical or overly long. It should be an easy 20-30 minute spin up to the saddle point just with a little bit of a kick at the end to get round the hairpin and to the finish. The trouble is that nearly the whole climb is on a very fine grass that's like fuzzy felt or a supremely kept golf course green, all thanks to regular use (but not too much to wear it out) and the sheep keeping it very short. The stuff is draggier than anything I've ever ridden on, velcro would be an improvement! It means that you expend far more energy than you should to get to the top, catches everyone out even if you've ridden it loads of times.
I always think the measure of a horrible climb is when you think it would make a really good descent.
I even tried that on it once and it's draggyness means you end up wither rolling down slowly or pedalling like hell and being just as knackered as if you'd pedalled up it.
every single ride i go on ends with a climb of 226ft. which in itself is not much. but last year i rode up it 349 times. and 62 times so far this year. i ****ing hate it.
"Road To Hell" from Denbigh, it's a long climb at almost 7 miles, but you begin the hardest section about a quarter of the distance in and then need to quickly recover on the short descent before pushing on again if chasing a time.
There's an AR video version on Rouvy app and they are currently doing a free trial in aid of the Turkey/Syria earthquake https://www.strava.com/segments/30132696
https://my.rouvy.com/virtual-routes/detail/36075
Locally in Hampshire, I'd have to say Harvesting Lane on the side of Butser Hill. It starts so tamely and then suddenly kicks up for the final half mile or so to the top, calling you out if attempting on tired legs https://www.strava.com/segments/25619024
susepic
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+1 for Truleigh Hill, it’s horrid, and one of those featureless 200m, straight ones with a horrid surface
Both Streat Bostall and West of truleigh hill are grim, I'll give you that. But nothing compared to the glorious pain of Absolute B****rd aka the tank tracks just off the SDW. Never gets easier.
The climb to the Whitehouse out towards Littleborough
nothing compared to the glorious pain of Absolute B*rd
very true, but I never bother with that cos it's such a btard, and "not on my route". Maybe i just need to get fitter and stronger
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reluctantjumper
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This one in the Brecon Beacons:“Sheep Track Climb”
I’ve never managed to clean that climb - the hairpin at the end always gets me.
Quantocks, the climb up Bicknoller Combe (I think it is) up to the main ridge, comes out just along from Bicknoller post.
Lady's Edge I think. Can't clear it anymore 😥
All of Dalby Forest, it's uphill out of the carpark and continues to be uphill until you get back to the car. Or at least that's what it seems like.
Have you been up the road out the back of Lyme Park? Goes under the canal then starts climbing. And it goes on for roughly 37 miles…
Apart from the downhill bits.
I've done Snowdon 3 times, the last time with a group of friends. I told them that the tarmac before you get off road wasn't that bad. No one liked me, including myself, by the time we got to the gate. Its hideous!
The mile on tarmac that starts just outside my house and I have to climb everytime I want to get somewhere fun 🙁
"Cardiac Hill" (not it's real name)
Up from Stoughton (GR:802114) to the top of Kingley Vale. Dull, steep, dull, steep, dull and always covered in leaf fall and that special green slimeyness of South Downs chalk with ruts. It's horrid coming down as well.
It does however have the saving grace that the descents off the top are nice.
Sustrans 57: the wall at great missenden. 42m of vertical at 16%. It really shouldn’t be difficult but after a long ride and with cold legs from cake and coffee in the village, the narrow track, magnetic weapons-grade nettles, slippery leaves and a front wheel that won’t stay down conspire every time to have me completely gasping by the top.
The top half of Cut Gate, from Howden, after the steep bit. Sure, the steep bit is bad, but the rest should be fine? Nah, energy sapping peaty, grassy slog. I don't think I've ever cleaned it.
Maybe it's just that I almost always ride it at the end of the day?
I used to be fit, now I'm not, so literally every climb.
But I'll give special mention to the fireroad that runs from the blue climb to the bench (past the blue descent, Andy's Flume etc) at Glentress. It's not long, it's not steep, it's just perfectly pitched to look effortless but somehow be way harder work than it looks. It's a bit too draggy to ride fast, a bit too easy to ride slow, you can't dig into it, most people can't beast it but will feel weak and slow if they spin it. Couldn't be more slightly irritating if they tried.
It’s not long, it’s not steep, it’s just perfectly pitched to look effortless but somehow be way harder work than it looks
I have that issue with several local 'slopes.' A forestry road on the way to work. Barely visible slope, saps all my energy.
Then there's this horrible bastard. Can hit 100km going down it on the way to work, but on the way home I have to dig really deep.
https://www.strava.com/segments/793660
My commute goes down > flat > up/down > flat > up on the way there, and consequently exactly the same profile on the way back.
The up on the way there is one of those loooong drags up and seems to get longer/harder every year.
*the whole red route is really just one endless climb back to the car park.
Escher's brief stint as a trail-builder?
For me Exmoor has always seemed more up than down.
Dundas Street in Edinburgh. Especially when I worked at the bottom. Literally straight onto the hill from the first pedal stroke.
It's continuous
It has multiple traffic lights
There's a ver real chance of getting smoothed by joining traffic.
It's followed shortly by the mound.
The up on the way there is one of those loooong drags up and seems to get longer/harder every year.
My commute now is 52mile round trip. I don't know what witchcraft is afoot but the tiredness levels after a day at work makes the 9mile gentle downhill to home invert and become a relentless invisigradient.
garage-dweller
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“Cardiac Hill” (not it’s real name)Up from Stoughton (GR:802114) to the top of Kingley Vale. Dull, steep, dull, steep, dull and always covered in leaf fall and that special green slimeyness of South Downs chalk with ruts. It’s horrid coming down as well.
It does however have the saving grace that the descents off the top are nice.
Yes I know that one. Unpleasant.
Amazed how many SDW climbs feature here considering it's not exactly a mountain.
I can think of a couple more, like the one up from Arundel going East (not sure of the name) or even the one going up to Devils Dyke going West. Or Southease (never seen anyone ride it entirely, not sure it is humanly possible).
@reluctantjumper - I was going to post that climb. Even in the dry it's ridiculously hard for the elevation gained/pitch. The middle bit by the fence needs some decent efforts to get in and out of the ruts, and before the hairpin at the end, just gets steep enough to weaken you for the full on gurn round the hairpin.
I did it in the wet once and it took nearly 40 minutes into a grim headwind. Great descent afterwards tho,
Actually, you’ve reminded me, from Gibb Lane up Whetmorhurst Lane. I always forget how that gift keeps on giving too.
That's a nasty little climb, but then I always expect it to be nasty. The other one that gets me is the steep pitch on Back Eccles Lane if you're cutting across from Buxworth towards Whitehough/Chinley. In my head it's always a quick, undulating cut-through, in reality it's quite steep in the middle, fine if you're fresh, bastard if you're tired and longer than it is.
Oh, and Cold Fell, which is always horrible despite looking vaguely like nothing much at all.
I did it in the wet once and it took nearly 40 minutes into a grim headwind. Great descent afterwards tho,
The descent afterwards is my favourite in the Beacons hence why I put up with the climb! Fastest time up I've ever managed was 21.21 according to Strava but I usually manage it in around 30. Feels like way longer when doing it though.
+ the slabs then paving upto the barn on ladybower loop, and then passing the forest on the right upto the gate, i love the next section up to the next gate and along to whinstone tor lee
At the bottom of Zoom or Busy, turn right and that climb that you can almost touch the top of...
Generally by this point it's the end of a ride, certainly pre-dropper posts it wasn't worth putting the saddle up for, but the pain of honking up it...
the one up from Arundel going East (not sure of the name)
Amberly mount... only part of the SDW I have to walk on my SS....
Devils Dyke going West
Yup..rotter!
Southease (never seen anyone ride it entirely, not sure it is humanly possible).
Which way...? the zig-zag up the field is a pain but doable...not sure i've ridden the other way!
DrP
@Alex and @reluctantjumper. Oh yeah, out from Crickhowell starts at a wee bridge? Looks like a nothing grassy slope, is in fact; hell
I will offer the Stoner Estate climb from the B480 to Kimble farm in the Chilterns. “Mleh”, you think. It’s the softy south how hard can it be? Isn’t particularly long but the combo of greasy chalk and a fiendishly steep couple of corners in the middle make in next to impossible unless it’s the driest of summers and you’re fresh.
Hi DrP, Southease going West
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We struggled there too (pic below) but I can't remember which one that is, do you know? Going East from Petersfield somewhere, perhaps Beacon, Harting or Cocking or neither.
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I'm not someone loves doing climbs but I can get a satisfaction out of it but some climbs are just shit** and even after completing them they are as hateful as on the way up.
**specifically ones where you fall in shit - the one after crackpipe in S Hills being an example - its not even long but spinning out of horse/dog shit is not my idea of fun though slightly better than being behind someone doing it.
On the positives... pushing up in autumn yields lots of edible mushrooms.
every single ride i go on ends with a climb of 226ft. which in itself is not much. but last year i rode up it 349 times. and 62 times so far this year. i **** hate it.
Yeah, I live about 300 ft up a hill, less than a mile from the beach. I'm just looking at Strava and every route up to my house has sections of 13-14%. It could be worse - there's another 300 ft above my house and the gradients to get there are steeper.
@nickfrog
That Southease one going E-W is a bastard, and just doable, only managed it the once....needed a looong breather at the top, and if it hadn't been a group ride I would have walked
Is the other one in the pic Old Winchester Hill. That always seems impossible cos the gravelly surface makes traction non-existant.
two more short and sweet ones are either side of the 27 at Housedean Farm - Bunkershill plantation and the other just the other side of the railway in the wood before you get to the drag up Kingston bowl - if you can make the turn left at the steep bit you think you;re done but there's another 100 m of up to the gate
@susepic
I just identified the other pic, it's Beacon Hill. I cocked up that day as the SDW is suppose to go round it through a south loop rather than over it, for obvious reasons. That was 5 years ago and one of the group reminded me of the event at coffee this morning!!!
I am OK with the climbs you mention at Falmer (A27), I think there is a strong psychological aspect to particular climbs. I think if the first time you do them you're in a great form or on a good day then they're easier on subsequent attempts. And vice versa sadly.
@nickc that's the badger. We always stop for lunch at the bridge as well. Makes it even worse!
That Stoner climb was a brute. I didn't clean it many times. Absolute wiki definition of 'false summit' when you get to the first corner!
jimmy
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At the bottom of Zoom or Busy, turn right and that climb that you can almost touch the top of…Generally by this point it’s the end of a ride, certainly pre-dropper posts it wasn’t worth putting the saddle up for, but the pain of honking up it…
It's particularly bad when used as part of a race. Generally it means you've started somewhere up the top of the hill, then had to try and hammer Zoom or Bust before hitting that hill on the way to the hydro. I swear my legs were just 2 bags of acid by the top of it
Hi DrP, Southease going West
I've done that, it's only a couple of miles from home, run up it too. Both really tough. Last time I went up the one to Truleigh Hill I ran it, great catching and passing cyclists.:-)
The one I find that is far far harder than it looks is the concrete track from Swanborough up to the SDW above Kingston. It looks like it should be the easiest route up of the 3 or 4 optionsbut I'm convinced it's the hardest
Also Coldwell? Clough from the house straight up to Edale Cross, ok the last pull is a trial but he first part looks like it should be doable, but it’s just utterly relentless. The gradient’s not ‘that’ steep but it’s just straight and you can see the false summit that never gets any closer no matter how many lungs you cough up.
@nickfrog unless I'm mistaken that valley is just east of the top of Harting Down (car park directly behind over the next rise).
If you go to the left as you look in the picture (right as you come over from Harting) there's a double track that skirts round that wall of chalk climb.
it’s Beacon Hill. I cocked up that day as the SDW is suppose to go round it through a south loop rather than over it, for obvious reasons
yes, that makes sense @nickfrog
once did the same thing and went up the path above the longman of wilmington instead of taking the bridleway to the south. That was a push as well
Shatton Lane from Shatton up to Shatton Moor.
Starts on tarmac and gets steeper and steeper, then water bars to contend with on the tarmac, then rough tarmac, eventually ending up on gravel/double track up to the mast. Always a slog, it's even quite hard to walk up it!
Another one close to me is the track up from Kettlewell towards Buckden Pike. Looks OK from a distance, but you turn onto it after a short but very nasty road climb from the village, and it's instantly loose and deceptively steep. Always approach it with optimism, normally end up spinning out and coughing up a lung after about 300 yards.
So it's not just me with 'sheep track hill' then. I knew which one that was going to be before clicking the link.
ogden water up withens new road, strava ‘ogden cimb’ its only 104m elevation on 1.78km
Is that the stony track going up by the golf course to the phone mast cottage?
thats the one @montgomery, i also hate the one back up from oxenhope, on the corner of keighley road upto blackmoor road,
although i cleaned that the other week as it was dry
Also Coldwell? Clough...
Absolutely! I recall it strewn with babyhead rocks at a gradient that was just too steep to be comfortable.
The climb from my front door to the top of Charity Lane in Macc Forest. There are sections that don’t exist in my head despite it being my local loop. Bits where I think “just round this bend there’s an, oh, no, just more hill”.
It’s basically one massive hill from my door that gradually gets steeper and steeper. Greatest point of biking related shame was one New Years Day where I was slightly worse for wear, slowly bimbling up the forest path and dying. Got overtaken by a group of people doing speed walking 😂
On a related note has anyone ever been for a walk in the places you ride and thought “Jesus Christ! I ride down this?” Some things look scarier walking up slowly as opposed to blasting down quickly!
Linnets clough from Bottom’s Hall, Marple.
The first bit is slightly rocky, mostly wet and a little steep in places, evens out, then climbs until the scout camp (Where I need a rest)
Longhurst lane from Marple bridge to boguard road isn't much better. I've done that climb so many times,but hated it every time - until I got an ebike!