[Closed] Chinese carbon roadie build. Flyxi FLX-FR-322.

Stealth black. Looks great. I'm tempted to get some carbon wheels that way. Partly for cost and partly to brand them myself for a laugh.

You went on a club run without full length mudguards and a flap made out of an old pop bottle? I trust they made you lurk at the back like a leper. 😀

(nice chariot tho')

is that the amazon or your grass?

is that the amazon or your grass?

That sir is the grass of a man who is always out on his bike. 8)

Well, if we're going down that route we also need to critique the harlequin fence and dead bits in the conifer.

Nice bike, shabby garden. At least you have life the right way round......

mmm I like it. Couple that with some (also £300) China carbon wheels and that'll be a beauty!

Stealth is good .. forget the decals.

The half painted fence and un-mowed grass. But great tan lines no doubt 😀

Epic tan lines.

Stealth is the way to go. My Compact Dolan Hercules
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New RS 81 wheels just fitted. Thought about Chinese carbon ones and decided to stick to buying Shimano from Merlins in the end as so damn cheap and no worries of import duty etc, like the handlebars I bought from Carbonzone, which are on the bike.

Here's mine. I appreciate it's a very wrong bike for these parts

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I got a fake invoice with my carbon wheels so paid £30 including handling fee (tax was £5!). Not too shabby!

I like that tt/tri bike, shame about the non stealth chainset really!

need to really really sort those handlebars out on that dolan

I've just received an invoice from Fedex for £23 duty on the SLK Light crankset I got from a seller in Taiwan. Happily he declared the value as $100, not the £550 I'd have paid had I bought them in a shop in the UK.

My one year old Chinese carbon 29er frame has been faultless. My 6 month old 38mm carbon Chinese clinchers have been faultless.

The products are excellent quality and better than some of the big brand names I've had.

Happy with my Chinese carbon too 🙂 (see my various previous threads)

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Just for reference, if you're posting your bike, how about also posting a link to it - helpful for those researching as we probably all did before making our choices.

([url= http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2-Years-Warranty-Carbon-cyclocross-bicycle-carbon-frames-with-inside-cable-routing-BB86-DI2compatible-fit-to/613709336.html ]Mine's an MC098 / AC098 from Miracle/Ican via Aliexpress[/url])

Here is mine that I built in the spring, now clocked up close to 5000km.

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Mine is an FM066 from http://www.hongfu-bikes.com/ with a Campagnolo Athena groupset and Mavic Kysrium SLS wheels.

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Mine. FM066-SL from HonorBikes with a bit of a custom paint job.

Those that bought via aliexpress, did your payment go OK? I tried to order some bits from off there, but as they dont take paypal had to use their escrow service. Only I changed my mind when they emailed asking for a copy of my passport, bank card and bank statement! 😯

Did you have to do similar or was I a random check?

Atlaz, can I ask what you paid extra for the custom paint job?

Those that bought via aliexpress, did your payment go OK?

Yeah, fine - I paid via credit card to ensure I was covered. I wasn't asked for passport or anything else 😯

I would suggest that you view Alibaba/express in the same way as ebay - there are good and bad sellers. Deal with one with a good rep.

Yeah, I wasn't sure whether it was Alibaba themselves or the seller asking fir the info. I think it was Alibaba with it being escrow. I Googled it, seems it's quite a common request from them but nobody wants to send that kind of info to them!

Some good tax fraud advice here - anyone got any good tips on fraudulently claiming benefits?

Pretty sure it's a discussion regarding purchasing from China.

grum by name, grum by nature

[quote=grum ]Some good tax fraud advice here - anyone got any good tips on fraudulently claiming benefits?

Really? Not sure I see where. As long as the seller ships it with the right declared amount, HM customs and excise will handle that readily enough. I paid full tax on mine.

[quote=The Swedish Chef]Atlaz, can I ask what you paid extra for the custom paint job?

60 USD for the painting

Mine... [url] http://www.aliexpress.com/item/FR-322-Full-Carbon-UD-Matt-Matte-Road-Bicycle-Frame-Fork-headset-Rear-Derailleur-hanger/1335322566.html [/url]

Really? Not sure I see where. As long as the seller ships it with the right declared amount

Which people are boasting about their sellers not doing. I'm really not that bothered, but boasting about evading legitimate taxes is pretty lame IMO.

Eg

I got a fake invoice with my carbon wheels so paid £30 including handling fee (tax was £5!). Not too shabby!

Wonder what the reaction would be if people on here boasted about benefitting from non-middle-class-bike-part-fraud like fiddling tax credits/benefits?

Or how about 'I'm self employed and I got one of my customers to pay me in cash so I didn't have to declare a penny of it to the taxman, woop!' There would be outrage on here.

It's just the hypocrisy that annoys me.

I'm really not that bothered

Then why bring it up on every Chinese frame thread?

You're right of course, grum and that's why I steer clear of it when I'm asked - I paid what sounded about the right amount of import duty on mine.

but

I'm really not that bothered

Isn't very convincing.

As an aside, I had a warranty replacement and that was zero rated (correctly) which I was relieved to see (didn't fancy paying import duty twice).

So bothered that I mention it sometimes on a discussion forum?

By that reckoning RD you should seek mental help for your obsession with spaffing over 29ers and declaring 26ers obsolete, given the number of times you say it. 😉

I've bought stuff before where they've clearly put a fake amount on the invoice and not really given it a moment's thought - I just think boasting about the tax you've avoided is pretty poor form and reveals an annoying double standard on here. Interesting how touchy some people get about it.

Oh come on, some of my favourite bikes are 26" 🙂

Sorry wasn't directed at you! Do you do that too though? 🙂

Quite like the look of these frames; mainly because I find the branding/decals on road bikes ugly. I like the discrete look of the matt black carbon fibre.

Quite tempted to build a road bike up next year from one of these although I am not sure I know enough about what I want/need in terms of geometry/sizing to end up with a goodun'. Stealth black is probably easier to hide in the garage from the wife too 😀

As for the tax thing; if I had to pay the full amount of duty due, I would happily do so. But, if it got through customs having paid less than the required amount I wouldn't be running to the taxman with my cheque book in hand letting him know that I'd ripped the government off.

As for the tax thing; if I had to pay the full amount of duty due, I would happily do so. But, if it got through customs having paid less than the required amount I wouldn't be running to the taxman with my cheque book in hand letting him know that I'd ripped the government off.

+1

I'm interested in one of these - like the look of the FM066 and keeping it in stealth mode.

So fraud is fine if you get away with it? 😛

keeping it in stealth mode.

Whereas I think it's a bit dull 🙂

http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/lets-see-your-finished-chinese-carbon-bikes-decalsdecoration

(I'm no 29er evangelist, Grum)

So fraud is fine if you get away with it?

I'd more not do anything out of laziness than anything else. 😉

That looks like a RT58.

After all the hassle. Was it worth the saving?!

hora - Member
That looks like a RT58.

After all the hassle. Was it worth the saving?!

What hassle did the OP have?

RT58 is £699 and the OP paid £300. Saving of £399 sounds pretty good to me. Could probably get Chinese frame up & running for the cost of the RT58 frame alone.

[quote=hora ]That looks like a RT58.
After all the hassle. Was it worth the saving?!

The hassle for my delivery was no more or less than buying a frame from Singular when I bought from Sam. If anything I got more communication than I expected as they kept me up to date with the painting process.

I would like to spoil my bike with some shiny new, light carbon bars. Any good pointers of decent sellers to look at for good quality on these, anyone?

The deliveries I've had from China have been quicker than most UK suppliers.

The last frame I got was ordered on a Wednesday, arrived the following Monday.

Anyone know of a disc equipped road bike with full guard mounts?

By that reckoning RD you should seek mental help for your obsession with spaffing over 29ers and declaring 26ers obsolete, given the number of times you say it.

Oh dear, you don't like it when someone answers back do you? Still, I thought you'd come back with a better reposte than that, seems I overestimated you

And get with the programme it's all about 27.5 now, 29 is as dead as 26

Now now, kids. Behave or I'll send you both off to work in a Chinese carbon [s]sweatshop[/s] factory 😉

I'd rather work in a sweet shop 🙂

Hi,

Just swapped my Boardman Hybrid frame for this as a CXr

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and a winter bike.

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Two for the price of one.

£350 for the frame Iplay IP105d.

Regards

Here is mine... Now sold

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whats the fake FSA stuff like? it looks nothing like the real thing but i'm interested.

I'd buy either something unbranded or something where the Chinese company is happy to put their own brand name on it eg. Hylix.

Oh and my FM066 (now sold)....

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I'd have their name in Chinese. Why not?

Campfreddie- I like. Where/what was your frame?

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Slightly ot. I was scouring eBay for another second hand Giant TCR or Defy frame. There ate lots of new, cheap carbon TCR frames on there from Hong Kong. How do you tell if they're legit?

nice OP - ive been looking at chinese TT frames for a "dabble"

one thing, are they also chinese "FSA" parts as ive seen them fail a lot more than the frames

There ate lots of new, cheap carbon TCR frames on there from Hong Kong. How do you tell if they're legit?

Simple, they're probably not. Why would they have lots of them if they were legit Giant frames and be selling them here - grey imports is obviously a possibility but more likely is that they're just fakes. As above, buy from well regarded Chinese manufacturers that are happy to sell parts under their own name.

How do you tell if they're legit?

If you want certainty then buy from a Giant distributor, not to say a HK import isn't, or won't be of comparable quality but if you want to be sure you have a warranty you'll have to use go the "traditional" route...

TBH I'm more tempted by an unbranded, Far eastern CX Disc frame than a branded import... the "Stealth" examples in this thread look way sexier IMO...

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The early 90s called, Mowgli. They want their bar tape back 🙂

so carbonzone? I've got every single component to build a bike, absolutely everything. I've got a new bike coming early 2015. But I could go Chinese to hang it all on.
I always think of Ritte bikes, really fancied their top road race model some years back. However their website gave you the details of where to purchase the exact frame at a fraction of the cost, excluding nice Ritte paint.

I've looked at those TCR's and wondered as well oldgit, see they have Alu ones too which for some reason makes me think the seller seems more legit.

How the hell did this thread get resurrected.? The bike is still going strong BTW.

I can recommend Miracle Cycles (also called Ican) too (via Ali Express)

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/611642

I've used Carbonal a few times, they've been spot on.

Couple of frames and wheels bought in the past. Good communication and fast delivery. Often faster than some UK vendors I use.

The early 90s called, Mowgli. They want their bar tape back

And for the love of god sort your stem/spacers out.

I've looked at those TCR's and wondered as well oldgit, see they have Alu ones too which for some reason makes me think the seller seems more legit.

No, it means they copy alu frames and carbon ones.

I'd happily buy unbranded or a frame with the company's own name on, but sod fakes.

Ya probably, it just looks so damn similar right down to the way the Alu is "molded" around the seat tube area.

I'm with you on the fake goods thing.

You've going to have to explain that stem mowgli.

😀

I used flyxii, took 6 days from order to delivery, bike is now 6 months old and done a fair few miles & hasn't fallen apart yet

TBH I'm more tempted by an unbranded, Far eastern CX Disc frame than a branded import... the "Stealth" examples in this thread look way sexier IMO...

[url= http://flyxii.com/en/products/flx-fr-602-matt.html ]Flyxii FR602 disc CX frame and fork[/url] bought to be a fast commuter / winter club run / audax bike.

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Chosen because it was the only disc CX model I could find that had proper mudguard mounts. Also, I could get it with an english BB.

3 months and about 400 miles so far, no complaints. Lightweight and souless, just like I wanted. 🙂 Fork in particular is worryingly light 😕

Lightweight and souless, just like I wanted.

I like my Women like I like my bicycles... No?

There do seem to be some rather good frame/fork deals for around the ~£300 mark... Did that one come with a headset?

Frame, fork & headset for £267 delivered for mine

That's particularly good value, RD - link?

There do seem to be some rather good frame/fork deals for around the ~£300 mark... Did that one come with a headset?

Yep. Frame, fork and headset for £304 + UK charges.

Nemesis
http://www.flyxii.com/en/products/flx-fr-322.html
Currently £263! I went via aliexpress though as they don't take money until u see the frame & have ok'd it

The stem is a continuing source of shame. Swapped from an old bike (with very high head tube) and not got round to replacing yet.

The bar tape, however, is staying :-p

Hi folks

Has anybody seen any NEW Chinese/far eastern/cheap carbon cyclocross frames ? There seems to be a whole host of new road disk frames popping up . But the tyre clearance seems a little too tight for a decent 'cross sized tyre IMHO .

TIA

Fatbiker