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So I've lost half my D-Lock last week, must have either dropped out of the Carradice or more likely I failed to put it back in after a stop. Annoying, but I think I paid over £40 for it years back. Wiggle and On-One have offerings around a tenner, anybody got one and sen they're OK? With bolt cutters and battery angle grinders being ubiquitous, any point in paying loads for a lock?
is it double locking? Is it a pick proof lock? Most importantly is the shackle 16mm+ in diameter?
unless its those three things its purely a token IMO. How much is your bike worth? Why skimp on a lock?
The basic kryptonite d lock used to be sold secure gold rated, oddly the new one is only silver. Available online with a length of cable to runt through the front wheel too for about £30.
I'm of the opinion that if they want your bike they'll have it in a few seconds so:
1) don't ride arround town on a nice bike, get something secondhand for £100 (you can get some really nice bikes for £100! I've got a charge plug CX bike* and a charge cooker 29er for arround that!). It doesn't matter if you have nowhere to store your n+1 the whole point is it wont get nicked left on the street locked to some railings.
2) Insure it. They will either just ask for a d-lock or some standard. Meet that and you're covered.
*I've added about £250 of dynamo wheels and lights to it, but it's still invisible to scrotes.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Onguard-Pitbull-8005-Bike-Cable/dp/B00XAM0NYI
£25 with prime I've got a couple and can't fault them
Evans are selling off their stock of OnGuard locks. £24 for one with a cable iirc. Get the one with the 4xp or Quattro or whatever they call it (double bolt at both ends or the D).
The onguard ones are pretty good, I've been using a couple in London for years
(I leave a bike locked at Euston overnight & weekends)
I've got the onguard pitbull as mentioned above. It's OK, but mine isn't as good as the kryptonite equivalent. There's lots of cheap plastic and the lock action isn't as good IMHO.
I like this one with the curved end
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kryptonite-krytolok-std-4-flex/dp/B06XCLTVPQ
I'm going to replace my onguard with it.
The onguard ones are pretty good, I’ve been using a couple in London for years
(I leave a bike locked at Euston overnight & weekends)
Whereabouts? Just out on the street?
stretch a bit more, and get one of these https://www.clasohlson.com/uk/Asaklitt-Shackle-Lock/31-2166
We've got three or four. Never had an issue - leaving one at the station every day for years. Stopped at least two attempted thefts. Just make sure the key mechanism is oiled...
Generally does very well in these reviews https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/144109/
Evans are doing onguards very cheap.
You want hardened steel shackle at least. Double locking is a good deterrent, it doesn't seem clear that 16mm+ is worth it to me, I couldn't see evidence that hardened steel shackles can be broken by bolt croppers.
Depends on risk of course also, mine is probably low (unattractive bike, not locked outside in any regular way).
In contrast to the above, my new onguard Pitbull feels better than my £50 kryptonite
Cheers all, I hadn't got as far as Evans in my shopping this morning. I'll be having an ONguard Brute for £20. It's for the tourer so it does have to get locked up outside fairly often, though not often in city centres. I have a three speed dutchie for town duties, the Fargo is for going further.
If you want to see how hard / easy it is to defeat a lock, look through this guys channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm9K6rby98W8JigLoZOh6FQ
He picks / crops and cuts just about every D lock etc on the market, although one did break his hydraulic cutters. He can pick all the locks in seconds though...
His choice..
With bolt cutters and battery angle grinders being ubiquitous, any point in paying loads for a lock?
no-one has really answered that question. I've seen a bike with two good d-locks angle ground through while we were in a Wapping pub.
I've heard of lots of cut/broken locks over the years but never one that was clearly picked. It it really worth buying and carrying heavier, costlier, locks?
It it really worth buying and carrying heavier, costlier, locks?
once it's tough enough to withstand a kick / pair of pliers, you're into severely diminishing returns. I've cut a 16mm Abus Granite with an 18v disc cutter, took a few seconds to cut it in half...
Interesting. Those asakkitt ones look like the 'magnum' brand, which I think are made by the same people who make onguard.