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Currently have a mixture of SRAM X4 and X3 and wanting to change it as it sounds really knackered and looks like it will only last a few more months max Its 8 speed and I'm thinking of changing it to either 2X9 or 2x10 with a bashguard.
Which would be better and most cost effective Shimano or SRAM. Riding is mainly XC and trail centres.


 
Posted : 28/04/2013 10:12 pm
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Is you on crack?

Edit - nice edit 😉


 
Posted : 28/04/2013 10:15 pm
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What do you want to change and how much money do you have?


 
Posted : 28/04/2013 10:17 pm
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Haha I pressed enter and it posted prematurely!


 
Posted : 28/04/2013 10:43 pm
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Want to change everything it's all bollocksed! And fit a bash guard. I left the bike to rot since December and even after cleaning and lubing I can tell its gonna munch itself.


 
Posted : 28/04/2013 10:44 pm
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there are Sram Haterz and Shimano Haterz....

SRAM at X9 up is nice, I like it and prefer it to Shimano. There will be some 9sp deals out there.

As for bash, google chain ring injuries - I prefer one for chain retention and not mashing my legs


 
Posted : 28/04/2013 10:46 pm
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X7 is more my price range I think. Bike was only 300 quid.


 
Posted : 28/04/2013 11:13 pm
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X7 is probably over dressing a 300£ bike ime; x5, some 'on offer' cranks and cassette and get riding. I popped an x5 rear mech on my rather hotch potch Soul as i had one in the spares box, works fine, mid cage to suit the 2x10 setup. My intention had been to upgrade on pay day, but 6 months later it's still going working a treat.


 
Posted : 28/04/2013 11:34 pm
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A mean I would like to keep this current bike as I don't think my riding needs more than a xc Hardtail (Carrera Vulcan 2009) and it has Mavic xm 317 rims, deore disc brakes and a Tora Sl fork. But just looking to make it a bit lighter and ride nice.


 
Posted : 28/04/2013 11:54 pm
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Shimano or SRAM mainly comes down to personal preference.

I would recommend that you go 10 speed and get a clutch rear derailleur. That's "Shadow Plus" in Shimano speak and "Type 2" in SRAM speak. Shimano has the clutch available in SLX; not sure about Deore or how far the clutch has trickled down the SRAM side.

I still have 8 speed on my full suspension bike. I built a new fatbike over the winter and went 2x10. It is fantastic! Now I gotta find the money to upgrade the full suspension bike!


 
Posted : 28/04/2013 11:57 pm
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I don't think going for 2x10 will make your bike lighter because your budget means that you are probably looking at the heaviest cassettes.

Ignoring that possible issue, Merlin sell the Deore Disc groupset for £250. You could sell the brakes and chainset on, then buy the chain rings to suit a 2x10 setup.


 
Posted : 29/04/2013 12:38 am
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It doesn't have to be 2x10 just looking at the options. Just want to upgrade from the current 3x8 and get a bash guard to protect my legs.


 
Posted : 29/04/2013 1:11 am
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I'm a Shimano lover so will always suggest you go in that direction, in my eyes SRAM is good at the hgh end but lower down the scale Shimano is better.

From a pure value perspective you will struggle to beat Deore, as posted above, £250 get you the complete groupset from Merlin (it may be cheaper in the German shops if you look around). Deore works well, looks pretty good and will feel like a good upgrade over X3. If you can find a few more pounds then SLX really is very good, lighter then Deore and will last a little longer in thoery.

And don't worry about 2x10 too much, if you can't find a specific 2 ring crank in a price you like just buy the standard 3 speed one and swap the big ring for a bash guard.


 
Posted : 29/04/2013 6:17 am
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Was going to ask about deore would it be worth upgrading my current Deore M535 discs to the newer ones? Also as I'm not mechanically minded how much would a lbs charge me swap it all over? And one last thing, would I notice any significant gains going from Rockshox Tora Sl (coil) to a Air fork?


 
Posted : 29/04/2013 7:26 am

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