[Closed] CCDB Inline

brown paper with TFtuned tape round it. nothing fancy about it

I'm teetering on the brink and I think I'm gonna fall.

Anyone used one with a Pike (ideally on a 4-bar bike)? Wonder if they make a good match?

matther01 - Member
Just away home from work to open mine and fit it. Apparently the wife say "it came in a cool parcel." No idea what that means?!

It means "I deserve something shiny too"

I have no need for this shock.

With my lack of ability I doubt I will notice the difference between this and my ctd.

I should be spending money on real life items.

I don't need one.

Please someone say it's rubbish.

chakaping - Member
I'm teetering on the brink and I think I'm gonna fall.

I'm somehow managing to stay strong but not sure how long it's going to last!

Done it.

🙂

You're worse than me [b]chakaping[/b] come to the lakes to test it out

As soon as the opportunity presents itself, I plan on doing just that.

George - it was wrapped in pictures of shoes from a magazine...I've gotten the not so subtle hint!

Its also taken my ten mins just to get the bloody zip ties of the shock ends without damaging anything...grrr

is it just me, or does the ccdb inline look like Mr Spoon?

Mr spoon

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A ccdb Inline

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Perhaps Mr Spoon was one of the prototypes. 3D printing and all that.

Cheers Mr Draper

chakaping - Member

I'm teetering on the brink and I think I'm gonna fall.

Anyone used one with a Pike (ideally on a 4-bar bike)? Wonder if they make a good match?

I believe they do 😀

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Nnnnngh, all the reviews are glowing, I don't need to run high pressures and it'll be under warranty anyway, right? Right?!

I've wrote a small first ride review of the shock. Pretty impressed with it so far.

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Mine arrived today for SC Tallboy, anyone want a pretty much like new Fox CTD 200 x 50?

Nice write up Poah.

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😀

Sarah quality checked mine 😉

Poah - good write up. Fitted and rode my 190x50 today but single pivot.

All I can say is that it is far better than CTD that it replaced on my 26" Bandit. Very little peddle bob on the ups and small bump sensivity is maintained but not at the expense of bigger hits.

170psi was far too much as recommended by TF for my 75kg. Sitting at 160ish now.

Strange...I started off at 170, but mid ride stopped and checked...but was 150? Hope I don't have a leaky one. Will check again tomorrow.

So far so good though. Will be tweaking a little at a time though.

Mine's on the bike but I've got to finish building the thing up before I can test it out.

Feels lovely to bounce up and down on though.

negative air spring - so have to check after you pump it up.

Dimensions here -

Any of the recent purchasers other than poah got a ride or two in yet? Let's hear some more first impressions then!

Yes, see page 1 for my initial impression.
I've been on a few more rides, and it's just working really well so far 🙂
The climb switch works very well. It makes a massive difference to the climbing performance of my DMR Bolt. The Bolt has a bb pivot, and with the old shock it would bob quite horribly on the flat and up-hill unless I put on the lockout, but with the CS on it climbs extremely well.
In general it just feels like it copes with small stuff a lot better (previous shock was an X-Fusion) especially over rutty/rooty stuff. On bigger stuff the travel feels kind of bottomless. I keep feeling like I should add more air, as it almost feels like I'm blowing through the travel. However, when I checked the shock after a doing some largish drops the o-ring was not quite at full travel - a couple of mm off. I might have a fiddle with the fast compression setting, add a couple clicks to make it resist bottoming.
I haven't had a proper play with all the settings yet. The base tune from TF Tuning seems good so far. I did add in an extra 10 psi (160 up to 170), and I'm going to add a couple of clicks onto the high speed compression, and maybe firm up the low speed rebound.

I have a few rides on mine now. Its on a Solo C and I am delighted with it. Its a lot plusher over the small stuff and gives so much traction when climbing. I do ride the Solo quite hard and I have been messing around with the HSC a bit as I feel I am using a bit too much travel most of the time. I added another turn of HSC but it changed the way it rode over 75% of the trail and did not stop it using a bit too much travel. I have now fitted a volume spacer and returned the HSC to where I had it so I am going to give that a go.

It actually made my Nomads DBA CS tune feel terrible so I have started messing with that. I got that already setup and thought it felt ok but on riding the inline on the solo it felt far better in every respect!. I got the inline with no tune on it and have set too myself setting it up.

matther01 - Member 

Strange...I started off at 170, but mid ride stopped and checked...but was 150? Hope I don't have a leaky one. Will check again tomorrow.

You can't attach a shock pump without losing a bit of pressure. It won't read the same when you attach it as when you took it off...

First impressions very good here too. Only one ride but it was 3hrs of varied terrain around Rivington.

Feels very controlled, pedals well (especially with CS on), soaks up the bumps without a hint of bob.

Maybe need a bit less pressure as I wasn't getting full travel (130mm), but felt like I was bottoming out on the bigger hits.

So CC fit guide offers the Inline for my Nomad Mk2 as an option, bit I'm wondering if it's a bit under spec for it as the Nomad is a 160 frame but it's marked as for 120-150 frames, plus supposed to be for bikes that won't take the full DBAir with piggyback but the Nomad will.

The thing that attracts me to it though is the price and weight. I'm more of a trail to AM rider than a DHer, more down than up but do pedal.

I see CC say the full piggyback DBAir has to be the XV can for the Nomad. Is that still comparable to the Inline.

On the pedalling, is the CS of much benefit on a VPP platform? My current RP23 seems to make very little difference with propedal or not, and I think the VPP makes it nice to pedal anyway.

If you run a RP23 now on the Nomad then the Inline should be fine. It has a larger oil volume than the fox so will keep the oil a little cooler. The inline gas quite a big air chamber on it but probably not XV size on a DB.

I have a DBA CS on a Nomad and a Inline on a Solo and you can feel the climb switch stiffen the shock while climbing and make them both a bit more efficient climbing.

If I was you though I'd probably buy a DBA CS, just in case you decide to ride some different stuff.

Done a big day in the Lakes on mine now - rode Sticks Pass and then up again and over Helvellyn to the Dollywagon and Grisedale descent, plus Boredale Hause and Ullswater singletrack.

Very, very impressed with the shock, it never seems to lose it's composure and just lets you get on with worrying about your line choice.

Surprised to find I'd got the Strava KOM for the techy descent from Grisedale tarn to the bridge - and I'd be willing to share a little bit of the credit for that with the CCDB.

😉

what has really impressed me it the climbing with the CS on. I'm going to fit a volume spacer to ramp up the end stroke as like the poster above I added more HSC but it made the ride worse for the most part.

iv just read through most of this as im picking a shock for my new rune i have on order.

Im not long off the phone with tftuned then found this thread.

I was told for what i am wanting to do on the rune (160 rear travel) the inline would be great, im about 90/92 kitted up with 2 litres of water in the backpack, they done a quick spring check and reckoned about 185 psi would be plenty.

the main thing that swayed me towards the inline rather than the dbair cs is they explained the inline when the cs is on is much firmer than the dbair cs, this is a big plus for me as i like to pedal up.
(obviously not a lock out but he explained it as being 7/10 and the dbair cs being 3/10)

i do a few uplifts days and was told the inline would cope fine with the bigger hits and the likes of the dh trails at inners fine.

Also i think the problem with heavier riders is more guys running 240/250 psi in them

Hold on I'm sure I read that tft, said that anyone over the 80kg Mark, the inline was not suitable! I have the non inline btw, awesome shock. My friend has the inline on his hdr and its making some funny noises and not getting its full travel.

the main thing that swayed me towards the inline rather than the dbair cs is they explained the inline when the cs is on is much firmer than the dbair cs, this is a big plus for me as i like to pedal up.

I've been riding a Spitfire with CCDBA-CS since Feb and I pretty much only flick the climb switch on to alleviate the boredom when I'm on the road - the KS-link pedals so well it doesn't need any help from the damper. And that's running 28% sag, 1x10 34t 11-36 and 27.5 wheels so it's fairly high geared and I stand up to pedal a lot. I'm about 80kg and the shock's at about 150psi.

Sui - have a read here

tftunedshox - Member
Hi Guys

We just wanted to give you a further update from the earlier thread http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/ccdb-inline-3/page/2 where we were discussing the new DBinlines.

We think the DBinline is a great shock for the money (£360 including mount hardware when you buy from us) and in our view, at this price point, it’s the best inline shock on the market at the moment. We mentioned before that we’ve had some issues with the high speed rebound damping on these shocks (not as much HSR as we’d like) when running the higher pressures that some heavier riders/ some bike leverage ratios require.

We’ve spent more time with these shocks both in the workshop and on the bike and we now think that the lack of HSR damping only really becomes an issue at pressures around the 230 psi mark (which is slightly higher than our earlier comments suggested). However, we have also spoken to riders whose individual ride preferences/ bike set up mean that they are personally happy with how the shock runs at higher pressures.

At TF we want all our customers to have a good suspension experience and so depending on their individual circumstances we would sometimes recommend alternative shocks (e.g. the DB Air or Float X), taking into account the differing intended use and the higher cost of these alternatives.

We are always happy to advise on the phone, so if you are unsure, or just want to chat through the options for you/ your bike then please call us 01373 826800

Cheers, TFT

oh, didn't see that. 230psi is bloody high, i run my (non-inline) at around 150psi, Do the inlines run at generally higher pressures and or do you get this with certain linkage types?

iv got a good deal on the dbair cs so bit the bullet and went for it....

so new frame and shock due in around 3 weeks ...... :o)

More feedback please Ladies and Gents! My bike is in bits so seems like a good time to buy. Properly lame justification, I know.

Bump for the morning crowd

Erm, it's still excellent.

Is there anything specific you wanted to know?

Any reliability problems? Also initial feedback was consistently excellent but a few people said they were still tinkering, wondering if performance had improved for anyone as a result?

Mine died after two months (compression and rebound screeching). TFTuned were excellent and sent me a replacement the same day.

Any reliability problems? Also initial feedback was consistently excellent but a few people said they were still tinkering, wondering if performance had improved for anyone as a result?

Might just need to back off the HSC on mine a bit, had a couple of tyres holed and the rear can feel a touch harsh when smashing down rocky descents.

But then it is on a 130mm bike so I shouldn't expect miracles I suppose.

Love mine, as above very controlled. It can feel underwhelming on the car park test (mentioned by a few mates as sluggish compared to their fox ctds) then I just leave them for dead on anything rocky/roots! 😀 Just reduced HSR damping by a click from the supplied tune to give a little more pop.

Ordered, happy christmas to me!

mine has performed brilliantly at innerleithen DH's

I was a bit sceptical at first, i thought that too much tunability would lead to confusion and a fair degree of f##king it up. But i took my time following the instructions that came with the shock and in the process learned a fair bit about what i like and how to achieve it.

Fantastic shock and absolutely brilliant service from TFTuned when the first one developed an oil leak 2 days before a race. They sent me out another next day delivery and i sent the faulty one back a few days later.

Ordered, happy christmas to me!

Good work, you're in for a treat if you've not ridden a CCDB before.

🙂

Mine going back tomorrow 🙁

Keeps leaking air could be dry seals they said. If it is not impressed as I was told it would be stripped down and all seals checked prior to sending out to me.

Ho hum

New replacement shock on its way to me tomorrow.

Will be checking the psi again tomorrow before sending mine back.

All this does not sound good, was going to invest for my 130mm rig but may just keep the RPL.

How are folk finding the rebound adjust and general performance over Fox if you could sum it up briefly?

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How are folk finding the rebound adjust and general performance over Fox if you could sum it up briefly?

Still a great shock way better than my fox, if it could only hold the air. Hopefully the replacement will sort that out.

Mine's holding its air fine, after three months.

I have seen pics of this shock mounted upsidedown on Cube Stereo 160 HPC. However CC dont list it as a fit, but do now list a base tune. Im aware that people have gently filed the aircan to aid clearance, and yet others have used offset bushes at 90 degrees to generate a few mm clearance. Has anyone on here done it? Or got a ride buddy who has?

Id love to fit one, but im scared of the £400 experiment...

I would be concerned about the offset shock bushings staying in place, as they will naturally want to rotate into their intended position.

The accounts i have read either say it will fit, or they are using some grip/friction paste and a little more torque. The accounts say they havnt rotated....

Running an offset bush on my 2011 5Spot, had no issues with it rotating after two weeks riding in the Alps.

The accounts i have read either say it will fit, or they are using some grip/friction paste and a little more torque. The accounts say they havnt rotated....

mine started playing up after a couple of rides and got progressively worse. High speed rebound way too fast, and shock sounding like a budgie chirping down the trail.
Bike is now back in the shop, 2.5 weeks and counting with no sign or clue as to how long this is going to take.
Still at least i got to ride it a few times, had it 3 weeks before taking it back.
On another note i ordered some handlebars at the same time, that was 5.5 weeks ago....no sign of them turning up either!

Had one on my orange Gyro for 2 months now and around 1000 miles. Amazing shock but unfortunately its started to squeak like mad on a fast compression and rebound. Not too impressed after 2 months use.

I know someone who has gone through 1 per ride on their new bike (3 so far)... all replaced under warranty but still not very impressive.

there does seem to be issues, i was told mine was a 'common problem'. Not sure how they have fared after being repaired, I'm a little concerned about repetitive problems, especially as it looks like its going to be at least 3 to 4 weeks turnaround time.

My first one lasted 2 rides before it dumped all its oil out of itself.

The second maybe 4/5, before it started knocking about 40% into its travel.

I never round to a third. The Vivid Air that replaced it though, is amazing 🙂

Mine has a noticeable step in the first portion of travel. CC claim its the negative spring equalising, it never did it in the past.......

Well mine is working just fine, the first one was a dud but replaced pronto by Tf Tuned. The 2nd has taken a right battering and is still faultless. Amazing shock 🙂

Mine died, a negative seal flipped meaning that air escaped into the negative champer and wouldnt pump up.
Specialized replaced it immeadiatley with a Monarch as they can't fix them and its obviously a known issue.

Shame as the shock worked really nice. But with 90 parts or whatever it was never lasting.

joefm - Member

Specialized replaced it immeadiatley with a Monarch as they can't fix them and its obviously a known issue.

Not sure I'd be all that happy at having me expensive shock replaced with a much cheaper one. Did they refund you?

I'm probably going to take the plunge and get an Ohlins TTX to replace the DB inline on my enduro. The DB inline felt like it had potential but I'm concerned over reliability and i felt like i was always trying to make it work for me rather than it simply feeling great. This was clearly down to whatever the problem was/is with mine but i want something i can rely on.

For those that have felt a "step" in the first part of the shock, have you tried it with the chain off? I mentioned this before by my spitty has a good amount of chain growth which plays havoc with clutch mechs and gives a distinct feeling of resistance..

mine has the step also. cane creek said it was normal and caused by the negative air spring. Thing is it didn't do it at first, not until after the shock had been removed and some more volume spacers added.

Thing is it didn't do it at first, not until after the shock had been removed and some more volume spacers added

mine too, I think it has to do with the position of the reducers inside the air can

I did a review of my Inline and Cane Creek later got in touch with a comment on the reliability issues, just thought I'd share as I expect some fellow owners may be interested...

http://unduro.co.uk/mtb/review-cane-creek-db-inline/

Scroll to the bottom for the CC quote if you don't wanna read all my guff.

Sent mine to TF as it started knocking badly, even with the clutch mech off and there's no spacers in the air can.

Update. It's on its way back with an uprated bladder as the old one failed.

Fair one that they could actually be bothered to respond to your blog. A lot of companies would not gove a s**t.

My first Inline died within a week when oil started leaking out the rebound adjuster. TF Tuned worked some magic and sent me another ASAP as i was racing a few days later. The second one has been absolutely faultless. It has taken some serious abuse and is still going strong.

Have they updated the internals on these shocks since they were first released then?

After 1 replacement and 1 rebuilt by tf I gave up and sold it.

I guess we were just beta testing for CC, shame really as I wanted to like the shock.

Now have a FS with BOS f&r so much better.