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I moved into my new house about three months ago and the back yard was a right tip, totally over grown and full of junk. I've cleared it all out and turned the old outside toilet into a bike store. The problem is that the neighbour on my left has two cats and the one on my right has one. I think there's more further down the street too. Within one day of clearing my yard out there were nine, yes NINE different cat craps dotted around my yard. These were removed but the little bastards havent stopped. Luckily, being the rubbish summer we've had, the rain washes them away pretty quickly but my yard stinks all the time and it's like a mine field at night. It's doing my head in with tonight being the final straw. I actually stood shooing at a cat to get it to bugger off and it just squatted looking at me and curled one out!! Arrrrgh!
I'm writing as I want people's advice, what can I do to get them to stop? I thought about an ultra sonic scarer but the house on my left had right of access through my yard so the cats have to get out through my yard. I was going to jet wash and bleach the yard this weekend but part of me thought what's the point!
Can someone save me from catcrap hell?
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[quote=rollsroyce ] I thought about an ultra sonic scarer but the house on my left had right of access through my yard so the cats have to get out through my yard.
I don't think right of access extends to domestic pets?
Oh - the other answer is to go to your local zoo and ask for some lion shit. You put that down for a while and the local felines get scared off.
you can buy lion manure.. That'll put them off.
Get a few tins of syrup or treacle, and some bread and marge, make a few butties , with the above, and withthe remainder, place tin in a sauspan of boiling water and warm up the contents,mix in some salt , so the cats dont lick it off, then liberally apply to top of wall, that should stop the cats.
Totally environmnetlly freindly and syrup or treacle butties help the work go faster.
Get a cat 😀 *
*This may not work - ours is so dumb she craps in her own garden 😐
ultra sonic scarer
Don't seem to work, well you can have mine for the cost of the postage 😉
Also lion dodo, orange peel, fake cat eye signs, etc. don't seem to work either.
We found owning a cat ourselves kept all the others mogs laying dodo claims to our patch at bay for a bit, well its not as bad as it used to be anyway.
Buy a dog........the only problem is you will have dog poo.
Heard about the lion / tiger poo idea, but then I'd just have bigger piles of catcrap? Will try it though.
I don't want to fall out with my neighbours, that's the problem.
Mark your own territory (not with your own poo though - wee will do jut fine).
you can buy lion manure.. That'll put them off.
Don't buy this. How does a cat know what a lion is?
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Try eating a little pussy every now and then.
Just buy a lion.
It's an open yard area at the back of a terraced row so no walls, but good idea.
Cat is a no no as I'm allergic to them and don't like them.
Dog is a no no as I don't want to leave it in the house all day, don't think it's fair. Do want one in the future tho.
Someone said pepper to me??
Just go to Essex & catch one !
Plant some of these!
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The ultrasonic things don't work. I bought a nerf gun for a fiver off amazon and delight in shooting the ****ers whenever they set foot on my property.
They're vile creatures. Should I ever manage to catch one in the act of shitting in my garden, I'm going to pop the poo in a wee bag and strap it round the bastards neck so the can take it home to their owner.
How about getting a snake? There was a poor little kitty in Bristol who was eaten by a snake a couple of years ago 🙁
The bag necklace idea sounds good vorlich!
It's only rarely I see them do it to deter them! Otherwise I'd have a full armoury.
Mark your own territory (not with your own poo though - wee will do jut fine).
This is the only thing that worked in our last garden. I used to wee into an empty milk bottle and slosh it about the entry points and around the flower beds. I had to do it every two or three days but it was far more effective than any other off the shelf/internet method, and it's free!
Snake is def more like it. Was thinking of getting a bearded dragon but may get a big python instead. Be cheap too keep as they only eat once every six weeks or so? Say five cats on my street, that's over half a year with no feeding costs!
Supersoaker and Nerf guns should do it.
Failing that Razor wire!
I know your pain. When I moved in my current house ten years ago, my garden was the neighbourhood cat toilet. One of the close neighbours has around 15 cats, apparently they all have different personalities, he is a bit of a mentalist. I laid a new lawn, went on holiday for a fortnight, came home to a lawn covered in shit. It had burnt holes in the turf. I wanted to kill them all, but there were simply too many.
I tried many things, my own piss, pepper, bleach, jeyes fluid, water bottles, mirrors, throwing bricks at the bastards (put a hole through the fence). Nothing had any effect.
Then I errected a big shed in the garden and it stopped overnight. They all started shitting next door. And the poor neighbour could regularly be heard screaming, 'facking cat shit!!!!' So my advice, throw bricks at them so they know you mean business, then errect a big shed. Its what worked for me. Good luck.
maybe you could borrow a dog for a bit? I never tried that.
We've had almost miraculous success with the ultrasonic things. The only time we get cat poo in the garden now is when the batteries have run out and so they are not working.
Vermin,destroy.
@theendisnigh my yard is unfortunately rather small, and already have a stone old outside toilet. No room for a shed (which does depress me as everyone could do with a good shed).
I'll try ever increasingly severe methods. Annoys me how dog owners have to clear up after their dogs but cat owners can let them go anywhere! Cat crap is worse than dog crap too. Don't get me wrong, having dog crap spray up in your face while out riding is no fun whatsoever! it's not that uncommon an occurrence that my group I ride with are called the dog egg warriors on fb!
Definitely get a cat.
Cats have intelligence, they understand clearly that it's not good to crap in their own patch, so best thing is to crap in the neighbour's garden.
But if you have your own cat it will scare them off, or at least leave their mark. And best of all your cat will... crap in your neighbour's garden 😀
Still, they are better than dogs as at least they attempt to dig a hole and bury it. Dogs just crap and let their owners bag it up and tie it to a tree 😉
Buy a cat trap.. once caught go and drop them in the next town.
Problem removed... Or get a Bengal cat!! (See the bengal cat thread.. apparently they are aggressive enough to eat other cats, Koi carp, Rabbits and even small children.)
Check out this vid... possibly the most genius and inventive solution ever.....
Get sum o dat cat repellant powder from garden centres it works cos keen gardeners hate cats in their pristine borders.
Pick it up and throw it back into your neighbours yard. I hate cats!
How about getting a snake? There was a poor little kitty in Bristol who was eaten by a snake a couple of years ago
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Try pissing in your own garden at night,they dont like the sent, also try hanging some old cds around cos the reflextion spooks them out when they catch the light..it worked for us,plus you dont need to stand on watch with your toy gun or water pistal all night..
Still, they are better than dogs as at least they attempt to dig a hole and bury it. Dogs just crap and let their owners bag it up and tie it to a tree
The neighbourhood cats of Bishops Itchington don't even make a cursory effort to hide their crimes. They just merrily a-crapped in the flower beds, and all over the lawn. We tried cat repellant, cayenne pepper, tea bags soaked in lemon juice.... Someone at work suggested little spikes in the commonly used areas, so the kitties wouldn't be able to squat, but I didn't really fancy going for a Vlad the Impaler theme. Gets to the point where your garden looks bizarre with all the anti-cat poop measures.
They'd also shred all the bin bags and scatter the contents all over people's gardens and the streets - Foxes may have helped, but I remember seeing 'surgeon kitty' methodically locating and attempting to remove a chicken carcass, as he always did. We even tried coating the leftovers with cat repellant, he didn't care.
Still, cats are ace.
You've cut the grass short haven't you? Cats like long grass.
How about a sprinkler system that activates every now and again?
Your last option is go and crap in your neighbours gardens. It won't stop the cats but you'll feel a lot better.
Do not do what reedspeed said unless you like causing small animals to slowly bleed to death.
Cats bury their faeces even if they are more likely to crap in someone else's garden than their own.
It is more likely to be a fox than a cat; their faeces are a similar size, but foxes will crap in the open to mark their territory and they do it routinely and in the same place. If the turds are turning up in the same places, then it's almost definitely a fox or foxes. Their turds are particularly nasty and stink badly.
I've used a sonic device placed next to the location where the fox was crapping and that worked.
Cats bury their faeces.
Myth. And even if it were true, said turd will be there the next time you're weeding the borders. Yuk.
This stuff from the local garden centre worked for us.
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I feel your pain. Although mine was from a local male cat whom hadn't had his nuts chopped. My cat had a collar which activated our catflap. However this tomcat realised he could approach my catflap, pull it open with his claw and just wander in ... totally avoiding the security mechanism.
He would merrily spray his scent up all my curtains, doors, sofa, chair legs etc. None of the above seemed to work. 🙁
The high pitch electonic things work well for me. Alas they only go up to 'strong'. I was hoping for higher settings of 'spasm', 'unconcious' and 'involuntary cranial eruption'. But alas no...
"Cats bury their faeces"
Absolute rubbish spouted by selfish cat owners, theres always one.
"Cats bury their faeces"
Well they sort of do, but when in the hole that used to have my beetroot in its not exactly an impressive trick...
On the whole, cats do bury their poop as they don't want to signal to other moggies or potential predators that they're about.
If a cat is crapping on your yard, it's because it thinks it's the dominant animal in the neighbourhood, and is just sticking it's poopy flag up saying "Look at me, I'm the boss"
The solution.... I'm not sure, I've never had any luck deterring crappage I'm afraid. But for all those suggesting violence etc. to the cat, I bet you are "well 'ard" trying to frighten or hut things a 10th of your size, way to go at being a total hero.... 😕
They're vile creatures. Should I ever manage to catch one in the act of shitting in my garden, I'm going to pop the poo in a wee bag and strap it round the bastards neck so the can take it home to their owner.
:lol:ing at the vision of this 😆
On a serious note, I had the same problem to the point the kids actually brought some in the house on their shoes.
I found the prop we use to prop up the clothes line was a VERY effective deterrent.
dan1980 - Member
.....it thinks it's the dominant animal in the neighbourhood, and is just sticking it's poopy flag up saying "Look at me, I'm the boss"
...and my size 10 up it's jacksie says "no you're not matey" 😆
Absolute rubbish spouted by selfish cat owners, theres always one.
All right, easy there tiger (see what I did there 😉 ). You know those of us that have cats don't do it so that we can piss our neighbors off, nor do we send them to special cat poop school to train them to poop on your yard/lawn etc.
I was just saying that it might not be a cat that's all. Foxes are pretty guilty of this behaviour as well.
Unfortunately, as cats don't understand the reasons for violence being directed towards them by a human following their strategically placed dump, it's almost certainly unlikely to actually stop the crappage, they'll just do it when you aren't around.
It absolutely baffles me that a lot of people seem to think that animals think like humans, and can be treated as such to encourage, or discourage particular behaviours.
They've chosen to dump the kiddies off on a yard/lawn etc because it's a prominent place where other cats will see their territorial markings, if you get rid of it, they'll just come and do it again, to keep marking their territory. The suggestion of lion crap is that it's from a larger cat, so will discourage the little domestic moggy from thinking it's top banana in the neighbourhood.
You could try taking a dump next to the cat crap and see if that ultimately discourages them....
I'm guessing cat repellent powders work by trying mask the cat poop smell, but will get washed away in rain.
You know those of us that have cats don't do it so that we can piss our neighbors off, nor do we send them to special cat poop school to train them to poop on your yard/lawn etc.
Have you ever asked your neighbours if your cat's been fouling their gardens? If so, did you offer to clean it up?
One thing that is very selfish of cat owners though is not having male cats neutered. That makes them more territorial and aggressive and exasperates the problems described above.
That failure is something that people do have a right to get annoyed with.
Unfortunately, as cats don't understand the reasons for violence being directed towards them by a human following their strategically placed dump, it's almost certainly unlikely to actually stop the crappage, they'll just do it when you aren't around.
Depends how effective the violence is. I don't see many dead cats crapping in gardens...
On a slightly more serious note, I found a well aimed bucket of water every time I saw in in my old garden soon made its visits somewhat less frequent. It also cleaned the patio.
This is one of my ongoing crusades. We live in a studenty area so the first thing student girlee does when getting away from home is buy an ickle cutee kitty that grumpy old dad would never let her have at home because it would crap in the garden. Round about now as the parasites return to uni the cat population quadruples as does the cat crap. I have tried loads of things but the most effective was not my doing, a family of foxes dug a den under the neighbours hedge which seems to have discouraged the cats. Foxes are trouble as well but they still don't leave the sheer volume of crap the cats did
dan1980 - Member
Unfortunately, as cats don't understand the reasons for violence being directed towards them by a human following their strategically placed dump, it's almost certainly unlikely to actually stop the crappage,
..........dead cats lay no logs 😆
Supersoaker laced with lemon juice and a little cayenne. You need a clear shot into the unblinking eye. Non-fatal and it does work. May take a couple of tries but it does work.
ransos - Member
Myth. And even if it were true, said turd will be there the next time you're weeding the borders. Yuk.
I've seen cats do their business hundreds of times (including the family cat we had when I was a nipper). They all attempt to bury it. Never seen one just take a dump a bog off.
However, many older cats or fat cats aren't very good at it. Sometimes they barely make a hole big enough or they pick a piece of ground that they struggle to scrape the surface then end up doing their stuff turn around and try to cover it up but fail. Then go off looking guilty.
And yes it's a pain for gardeners in a way, though it's biodegradable and depending what they've been eating it may be good for the soil 😉 . Dog crap on the other hand is no good for anything. Though at least it isn't white any more.
I find a fac rated air rifle is boss enough for the job they don't like it up em ! , on a serious note tho we use to get cat crap in the garden when we first moved in but we have a dog an they don't seem to bother any more so there maybe is something in the whole territory thing that an I ditch wee outside on occasion
I find a fac rated air rifle is boss enough for the job
Back and to the left, back and to the left. 🙂
It absolutely baffles me that a lot of people seem to think that animals think like humans, and can be treated as such to encourage, or discourage particular behaviours.
They do to the extent that they will soon work out that pooing in a certain spot results in a kick up the arse (or similar) and therefore look elsewhere - on their owner's door-steps. (If only).
In the same way they visit the old lady at the end of the street cos she gives them gold-top milk and crisp fish-'eads.
Motion detecting auto paintball gun. Problem solved and pretty coloured cats too. Which is nice.
But for all those suggesting violence etc. to the cat, I bet you are "well 'ard" trying to frighten or hut things a 10th of your size, way to go at being a total hero.
Cat owner are we? Here's a suggestion. Take some responsibility for your pet, rather than sending it out to shit all over the neighbourhood with impunity. Your pet has no right to be in my garden, camped out under the bird table, impacting my enjoyment of my garden. Oh well, out of sight out of mind eh?
I bet you are "well 'ard" trying to frighten or hut things a 10th of your size, way to go at being a total hero.
Seems fair enough, given what cats do to the local wildlife for fun.
Always mildly amuses me that people get so worked up at animals pooing in "their" garden. Just because we put a fence round a small section of the earth we can't expect animals to follow the "owners" rules. Birds pooing in my garden really winds me up, and don't get me started hedgehogs! Grrrrr.
Dogs, as someone pointed out earlier as a fair comparison is nonsense. Dogs have owners with them so it's reasonable to expect the owner to act responsibly.
Anyway, the only way to deal with it (unless you have anger/violence issues) is like the Aussie guy in the previous YouTube clip... Bit of a light hearted challenge.
[quote=masterbetty ]Always mildly amuses me that people get so worked up at animals pooing in "their" garden. Just because we put a fence round a small section of the earth we can't expect animals to follow the "owners" rules. Birds pooing in my garden really winds me up, and don't get me started hedgehogs! Grrrrr.
Dogs, as someone pointed out earlier as a fair comparison is nonsense. Dogs have owners with them so it's reasonable to expect the owner to act responsibly.
Anyway, the only way to deal with it is[s] (unless you have anger/violence issues) is like the Aussie guy in the previous YouTube clip... Bit of a light hearted challenge.[/s]with extreme violence
ftfy
Buy an eagle.
Always mildly amuses me that people get so worked up at animals pooing in "their" garden. Just because we put a fence round a small section of the earth we can't expect animals to follow the "owners" rules. Birds pooing in my garden really winds me up, and don't get me started hedgehogs! Grrrrr.Dogs, as someone pointed out earlier as a fair comparison is nonsense. Dogs have owners with them so it's reasonable to expect the owner to act responsibly.
Cats are not wild animals, they do have owners. Some cat owners choose to allow their animals to roam and crap where they like. That's the owner's irresponsible choice though, so maybe once the owner is identified, the air-rifle / rock will have a more appropriate target?
There's an easy way to make the dog / cat comparison more correct - force cat owners to take ownership of their creature's actions, just like dog owners have to be. In many Australian councils, cats do not have freedom to roam / crap, must be brought in at night, and can only be let out into enclosures.
Buy an eagle
Yep.. a Desert Eagle 50 AE cal Handgun
A bit drastic and possibly illegal
Edit.. and dont let your wife / OH have a pop at the cats..
Hmm. Some cats are actually wild. Plenty in fact.
So shooting an air gun at the owner (if it has one) is your suggestion? Because of a bit of poo? Really?
Hmm. Some cats are actually wild. Plenty in fact.
That would make them introduced feral pests then?
vorlich - MemberCat owner are we?
I'm loving the rant, but no, I don't own a cat, I just have respect for animals and don't feel the need to "big up" my manly credentials by suggesting violence to other creatures on an anonymous internet forum. I find it all a bit pathetic really, as someone famous once wrote (I can't be bothered to google it) "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." If you get that worked up about a bit of poo in your garden, I'd suggest anger management classes may be a good idea.
If you get that worked up about a bit of poo in your garden, I'd suggest anger management classes may be a good idea.
Or remove the cause of said anger i.e. the cat?
I'm not 'bigging up' anything. I'm not trying to impress anyone, if I was trying to impress my manly credentials on anyone, I'd probably think up a better means of doing so than firing foam discs from a child's toy at a cat. 🙄
I'd suggest anger management classes may be a good idea.
Suggest all you like. I'll stick with the clothes prop method, for as long as it's effective.
Here's a suggestion for you though - Go learn (and apply) the same amount of respect for your fellow HUMANS as you apparently have for cats.
For the record, what's betting all the cat-shite sympathisers either live in a flat/appartment block, don't have a garden or have a garden and don't suffer the already mentioned cat-shite problem...
or have a garden and don't suffer the already mentioned cat-shite problem...
Most probably because their cat does their business elsewhere
Here's a suggestion for you though - Go learn (and apply) the same amount of respect for your fellow HUMANS as you apparently have for cats.For the record, what's betting all the cat-shite sympathisers either live in a flat/appartment block, don't have a garden or have a garden and don't suffer the already mentioned cat-shite problem...
I do try and apply respect to fellow humans, I just loose that respect when they think that violence is funny or an option, in any situation, especially where animals are concerned.
As for your 2nd point, I live in an end terrace with a yard that usually has dog eggs in it from irresponsible owners who I've seen go as far as open my gate to allow their dog to do it's morning constitutional on my paving. As for cats, they use my flowerbeds as a toilet, so I wear gloves as and when I do the gardening. I don't get angry, and don't get an irrational hatred of moggies because they dump around my dandelions. Life's to short.
Fundamentally, it's an animal doing what comes instinctively to it. It's not a learned response. They don't understand the concept of property, or man-made divisions of land etc. You can't train them to understand such concepts, and other than frightening them, or hurting them, you're not actually achieving anything....
Fundamentally, it's an animal doing what comes instinctively to it. It's not a learned response. They don't understand the concept of property, or man-made divisions of land etc. You can't train them to understand such concepts, and other than frightening them, or hurting them, you're not actually achieving anything....
Which is why it's up to the owner to clear up after them.
Fundamentally, it's an animal doing what comes instinctively to it. It's not a learned response. They don't understand the concept of property, or man-made divisions of land etc. You can't train them to understand such concepts, and other than frightening them, or hurting them, you're not actually achieving anything....
If that's the case, how come their owners can train them not to crap on the living room floor ❓
so I wear gloves as and when I do the gardening.
Good for you. I see no reason why anyone should have to though, primarily because of the above.
Use to have an old boy at the end of the row who administered the super soaker to the little blighters. Very sadly he passed away last year now not only have we lost a neighbour and friend we've lost most of the songbirds and gained a load of cat sh!t. Have made repeated requests to neighbours to fit bells and litter train their beasts (very doable) to no avail.
Also got a twelve month old who I'd like to spend a significant portion of next summer (if we get one) in the garden without the risk (or at least at lower risk) of him pawing through sh!te. So invective and polarised head butting apart, If anyones got anything useful to say on this subject tell me now 'cos my patience is wearing thin.
has anyone gone the statutory nuisance route?