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Any good?
Should I?
For normal XC riding + maybe a bit more?

(Let's ignore the looks shall we?)

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Posted : 16/12/2010 8:14 am
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i couldn't bring myself to throw a leg over it, i may be brilliant but even though you requested it i can't ignore the looks


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 8:16 am
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for £400 includign a headset and with bars and grips thrown in I can't see why you wouldn't (I just have 🙂 )- I think the 'shiney' paint job does have a slimming effect on it a bit.


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 8:18 am
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Ride wise they are superb and comes in scary light (xt, pro3 wheels is coming in at about 24lbs I reckon)

They do look a bit odd but at 400 notes they are an absolute steal.

Need quite a long fork 140mm at least as the headtube is so short and has an integrated headset so shorter forks feel very low.

If you are near reading/Oxford you are welcome to have a shot on mine (16" missus)


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 8:27 am
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They are a brilliant ride, I couldn't beleive the improvement over the 853 inbred I had before. Most components were swithced over so it was a true comparison. Would agree that they are better with a 140mm fork , i've recently fitted rev u-turns.


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 8:36 am
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I think I might. Just need to scrape another £100-ish together in time!


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 9:04 am
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I have a 456 but i really want one, i like the looks 😉


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 10:06 am
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I like the looks.

Folk say it's a better ride....how?

Stiffer? Lighter? More comfortable? (And if anyone says "more planted".... 😡 )


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 10:09 am
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I've been eyeing one of these for a while.

16" for a just-under-5ft 9in bloke do you reckon?


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 10:17 am
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16" for a just-under-5ft 9in bloke do you reckon?

Yep. I'm 5'8" and an 16in Inbred is perfect for me.


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 10:20 am
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...[b][i]i[/b][/i] may be brilliant...

Modesty not a strong point, eh rd?!


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 10:23 am
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Appalling choice of handlebars in that offer.

Anybody would think they needed to get shot of all those weird niche bars.


 
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I like the looks.

Folk say it's a better ride....how?

Stiffer? Lighter? More comfortable? (And if anyone says "more planted".... )

I'm rubbish at describing the feel of a bike, but I would say stiffer, without being harsh, particularly on rocky stuff it goes were you point it - less pinging about. Didn't really notice the weight as much as I thought I would TBH, lost about 1.5lbs compared to the pevious 853 build


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 10:29 am
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worth the xtra over a scandal for weight saving


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 10:32 am
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OMG Plastic bike LOL


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 10:34 am
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Why not an mmmBop and save a few hundred quid?


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 11:07 am
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back problems


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 11:12 am
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Mine is brilliant and it looks brilliant as well! Looks like they were only on sale for a few months at £500 so I'd be annoyed if I'd paid that price.

What's not to like.


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 11:19 am
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Is it much more compliant than ally then?


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 11:31 am
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I knew someone who bought a cannondale from Evans.

The price dropped by £1000 a week after he bought it.

Like most things, you take a risk if you buy it now.


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 11:37 am
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Appalling choice of handlebars in that offer.

Anybody would think they needed to get shot of all those weird niche bars.

Very true. But if you talk to them nicely they'll swap them for something else, like a seatpost..... 🙂

Yes. I just ordered one 😀


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 11:52 am
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Is it much more compliant than ally then?

Dunno yet but people say so.

Ordered one so will be able to tell for myself before too long.

Ta for size advice PP

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Posted : 16/12/2010 11:53 am
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don't hold your breath Peter - mine was despatched Monday 'overnight' and still hasn't reached the south coasst 🙁


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 11:54 am
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Looks like they were only on sale for a few months at £500

It looks like they still are.... But if you read the 'frame only' page it seems the £500 one is painted and has posh decals on it, rather then the bare carbon of the £400 one. Personally, I prefer the bare carbon.


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 11:58 am
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Wwaswas, he did say they had a backlog at the delivery company, but it would be packed today. I'm in no rush to be fair. 🙂


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 12:00 pm
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Is it just me that's wondering how other companies can justify their carbon prices when O-O can knock 'em out for under £400?


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 12:04 pm
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Not really, theres probably quite a steep set of supply/demand curves for the bike industry. i.e. people will pay more for soething because you are chargeing more (thus artificialy making it niche). So you can sell a product at a high price and sell a few, or at rock bottom and sell loads and still come out in about the same position, take Stork and On-One, both small manufacturers, but hugely different price tags.


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 12:30 pm
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True. Good point. 🙂


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 12:32 pm
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Plastic frames have no appeal here for me. I sincerely hope you'll love her.


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 12:43 pm
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But you dont get any dropouts!!

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Posted : 16/12/2010 12:59 pm
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Yes I'd noticed the lack of dropouts in the pic, but thankfully my order confirmation email says

"FSOOSWAP-A-GEAR-DS - 1 - On-One Swapout Replaceable Dropout / A / Geared / Drive Side
 FSOOSWAP-B-GEAR-DISC - 1 - On-One Swapout Replaceable Dropout / B / Geared / Disc Side"

🙂


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 1:29 pm
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I'd love to have a go on one (see what I did there)

[i](Let's ignore the looks shall we?)[/i]

hmmm, why I haven't been madly keen if I'm honest...


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 1:29 pm
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But it is made from soot and plastic!


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 2:48 pm
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But it is made from soot and plastic!

Technicaly its incinerated Primark jumpers


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 2:52 pm
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But it is made from soot and plastic!

LOL! 😆

No worse that draining rust out of a rock.... 😉


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 2:57 pm
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much much better in the flesh. a mate bought a white one, wondered if he had lost his marbles until he turned up with it ready for a build up. i changed my mind then.
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Posted : 16/12/2010 4:16 pm
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subtle support of the back wheel there 😉


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 4:18 pm
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Gotta say I love mine, fox 32 rl,XT brakes, crossrides with 2.4 big betty and racing ralph, on-one twelfty post, slx crank/xt mech and a set of big ass flat bars on a 70mm stem. Mega at climbing and descents so much more involving than my Zesty. Finish is crap on mine but that's probs my fault as I pressured the hell out of of them to get me it quickly, they actually went to the paint shop to pick it up for me specially and I don't think the lacquer had time to harden properly. Don't care though, as many have said on here it ain't much to look at but to ride...........:)


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 4:23 pm
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yeah its so light it kept floating off, he had to hold it down


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 4:24 pm
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No, basically.


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 4:31 pm
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I love the look of them.
I'm building a bike now & that is a good contender for the frame.
They do custom colours too.


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 4:44 pm
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Picked one up recently and swapped all the components off a Blue Pig. The weight difference feels substantial, and for the local trails (Surrey/Berks/Hants, not too hilly, plenty of singletrack) it's an improvement over the Pig to ride.


 
Posted : 16/12/2010 5:51 pm

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