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So basically if you're a dog owner you should be ashamed of yourself.
andy10011 So basically if you’re a dog owner you should be ashamed of yourself.
NO
The answer OP judging by the degeneration in this thread is NO.
Some dog owners are complete twits just as riders can be & many dogs (my 2 puppies included) are thick as mince. Folk going down shared trails too fast is a definite problem though. It was reported on a facebook group Just the other week that two riders took out a guy in his late 80s on a shared trail up Ballater way. Neither stopping to check on him or apparently stopping when challenged by others.
I’ve been chased and bitten by dogs when on my bike too, with much the same approach in response from dog owners. Not fine.
One thing I’m sure of, is that this was not the first time these dogs have chased/barked/bitten people.
I was bitten by an Alsatian earlier in the year. I saw a couple up ahead and rang my bell, which was a trigger for the dog (which I hadn't seen at that point). It ran past them (they were unable to catch it) and bit me on the shin (broke the skin). I asked them for their contact details and rang the police when I got home. Durham police were great - took it seriously and visited the home of the couple to see the dog within a couple of hours. They asked me what I wanted to do and I was clear that I didn't want the dog destroyed. In the end the police took it off them to train as a police dog. The couple admitted that they had trouble controlling the dog. Given that they still let the dog off the lead anyway in public spaces, I took the view that to not report it would have been irresponsible as who knows who would have been next.
@ Malvern Rider
Like you I prefer a more abstract and qualitative approach. Loving the GIFs BTW! I'm slowly working my way back from video toward hand painted in shit flick books.
Besides I blame it on Punk Rock and a "do as I say, not as I do" attitude adopted later in life.
I'm very , very civil to those who are civil to me.
Not so much the folk whose two dogs attacked me. I needed bite wounds treated and tetanus etc...
They had a near full house in the dog owner lingo bingo, said "there was nothing wrong with me" , "I must have frightened the dogs" & "the bulldog always goes crazy for bikes" - wtaf!?.
They wouldn't give me their details so i photographed them and passed it on the the Polis.
The result was a community resolution order something or other...( didn't want the dogs hurt just the owners on "record") Nice one Herts Police.
andy10011 So andy10011 So basically if you’re a dog owner you should be ashamed of yourself.
NO
The dog walkers in Cardiff who petitioned the local council to be allowed to walk their dogs on sports playing fields should probably feel ashamed.
We have two sports playing fields near us.
The closest has now been fenced and gated (belongs to a school and is not used much because they have all-weather pitched onsite) because it had problem with dog fouling. We used to play here as kids but can no longer get access.
The other one is completely unusable because it has so many loose dogs on it.
I don't think that dogs should be allowed on playing-fields, this is not why they are provided.
I agree that areas should be provided where dogs can run free but not on sports facilities.
I've never been knocked off bike by a dog. I have however recently been in hospital after being knocked off by another cyclist. At No point did I scream and shout at him. He apologised, I accepted it. Sure I was pissed of about it and I still am, but that's no reason to shout at someone.
Your mate sounds like a knob I'm afraid
More importantly..Was the dog ok?
I don’t think that dogs should be allowed on playing-fields, this is not why they are provided.
As a dog-owner, I agree. Some playing fields could possibly be recommissioned as dog-training-exercise areas, as many former playing fields have long since been abandoned to GTA/Fortnite/Youtube etc.
Some could be made into pump-tracks...
I crossed paths on my ride to work this morning with a woman walking two collies. I slowed right down as I should. She told the dogs to sit and they did, as they should do. No need to grab the dogs' collars. That's proper training.
Reading that Wales online article, I think the walkers kind of have a point about actually enforcing the bylaws relating to dog fouling (and would add that some proactive enforcement of behaviour would be good).
I've been frightened and bitten by more than one dog. The most recent said he'd had an incident with bikes and had bitten before, it took a fair while for them to accept that they therefore needed to keep the dog on a lead in public. Had it been more than a nip I may have
A) booted it
B) reported them to the police.
For balance, I have nearly run over one dog when it burst out of bushes next to a shared path and slammed into the side of my front wheel. It got oil marks on its fur.
I was going to post how some idiots ride bikes and some idiots walk dogs and some idiots are walked by their owners, some of which are idiots, but it seems that STW is largely in agreement over this.
Keep in mind that when having a crash or even a near miss, there is a surge of adrenaline that adds some unpredictability to the behaviour of even the most civil person. I am not the most civil person and I usually see red and become incapable of understanding the consequences when it happens to me. I avoid putting myself in these situations as much as I can, but it is a numbers game. The next human or animal I collide with will hear the full repertoire of my swear words.
I'm just amazed TJ has managed to avoid biting on this thread....🙈🤣