[Closed] Cannondale Trigger? Bargain

Great pic Jason.

[b]Yossarianlives[/b] keep all your packaging and if the bikes too big pauls will exchange it as long as they have the size you want. My large is going back tomorrow for a medium i just have to pay for the return postage.

Convinced myself to go for a 3, but sold out in large, then figured what the hell check the 2, sold out in large..

May yet still grab a 4

I bought the Trigger 4 in medium - now waiting for it to arrive. Can someone advise me on tubeless set up? Can I take the tubes out put valves in and fill with Stans and keep the wolverines? Has anyone done this? How much Stans should I put in?

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Why are you all riding these? Could you not try and flog them on gumtree for a profit?

Urobike - I did my switch to tubeless just earlier today (Trigger 3). I also swapped the tyres for some high rollers.

But yes, assuming the 4 has the same wheels/tyres as the 3 it should just be a case of taking out the tubes and putting the valves in place. Then putting the sealant in. It's the first time I've tried to go tubeless so I probably used a bit too much sealant, Stans recommend 60-90ml per wheel, I probably used 120ml.

The Wolverines with tubes seemed to sit quite well as they took a bit to take off initially, so should be fine.

Why is everybody swapping out the Wolverine tyres? Are they very poor in the wet? What is the best tyre set up for mud, wet rocks and roots?

Dunno. My Wolverines haven't tried to kill me yet, but I've only done 1,100 km on them.

Arrrgh!! Resisted for 3 weeks but just ordered a medium trigger.

arghh I couldnt hold out any longer in case the medium Trigger 4's sold out.

I was very tempted by a Jekyll but the Trigger feels like the right choice as I like a good fun bike to chuck around and non-scary speeds.

Jonnyt - where did you get the replacement headset for a tapered fork?

Well mine was christened yesterday:

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First impressions:

1. It looks bloody lovely in the stealth Black
2. The short travel/long travel settings are a revelation. It still felt really tight, and not too bouncy, even in 150mm mode.
3. Even a total dim-wit like me can set it up. I worked my magic at 10 o clock on Saturday night after a few beers - what could possibly go wrong? On Sunday It just felt bang on right from the off, with the recommended settings. No tinkering required. If it ain't broke... etc.
4. Its seriously quick downhill. We rode some pretty rocky stuff yesterday, and I was barreling down it. It was confidence inspiring straight away. So skill compensation in full effect! I laid waste to all my previous Strava times. I'm still slower than everyone else, but everything's relative.
5. Its more than likely going to put me in hospital fairly soon, due to technology induced delusions about my skill level (see point 4)

I thought the tyres may try to kill me. They didn't. And we waded throgh some seriously slippy stuff. But then I've been known to run Small Block 8's well into autumn. I thought I'd hate the bars. I didn't. With the short stem, they felt suited to the taller front than I'm used too, so I didn't feel I needed a riser. So they can stay puit for the time being. I'm putting the chunkier grips on though. Got a set of North Shores ordered.

All in all, if yesterday was anything to go by, I think we're going to get on very, very well indeed. Its more bike than I'll ever need, but I can live with being overbiked 😀

Oh... and the Magura Storm 4 pot brakes, which I'd never even heard of before, could probably stop a car!

I spotted a few of those shiny black ones at Llandegla yesterday, and I did wonder how many of them were related to this thread. They do look good in black - but I prefer my blue one!

5. Its more than likely going to put me in hospital fairly soon, due to technology induced delusions about my skill level (see point 4)

Cobblers. Mine hasn't put me in hospital, but only because I didn't go. After 10 weeks I'm still struggling to turn pages with my left hand as thumb and fore finger are not quite in synch with each other. Great bike though 😀

Jonnyt - where did you get the replacement headset for a tapered fork?

Still not managed to get out on it yet. Sounds like the stock forks work well, thinking I probably should have tried them first as a comparison.

Took my Jekyll to 'Degla yesterday for its first proper ride out and .......wow I can see how this bike helped win an Enduro Championship!!!

The climb/descend function works so well, running 1x10 and rode up everything which is unusual for me and proper caned it on the flat/pedally bits

Love the chassis stiffness - I like to man handle bikes and force them into stuff, the previous Prophet used to squirm in protest - the Jekyll is rock solid stable with not a hint of flex.

Suspension still needs a bit of twiddling as I think the sag is a little too big and I fully bottomed everything out hucking off a big roller that I was going far too fast to speed jump/pump! But definitely shows great promise. Feels like a DH bike in descend mode and almost hardtail like in climb

Brakes are a little down on power compared to my previous set ups but a 203mm disc might bring it back a bit, certainly down on power compared to a friends SRAM Guides on a Transition Patrol.

All in all a great bike for full on DH lite/Enduro hooning at a bargain price.

I sold a few bits, so I only owe the credit card £700 - for a Carbon Trigger 2 😮

Binners - that black Trigger 3 looks damn good. Was tempted as I normally build black bikes but they sold out so the blue is an unusual choice for me. Better wheels than the 4 too but I will be changing them for something wider and lighter anyway.

Jonnyt - that was the only place I saw it. Shame you can't just buy the top bearing parts, tempted to see if I can get them from my local dealer or just turn up a small reducer myself. I am wondering if going for a Pike is silly but I really want one. The Fox fork is not very saleable though as it's a straight 1.5" so not many people realise they can fit them to 44mm standard frames so tempted to build up a 45650b. Shame those rear hubs don't look like they can be adapted from 142x12 to 135x10.

Chunky - you sound like me justifying the purchase to the OH!

Can anyone please confirm that the Trigger 4 SLX rear mech has the clutch as I'm looking to go 1x10. Spoke to a guy at Paul's Cycles who was surprised that the Trigger 4 in front of him had a clutch as he was pretty sure that they did not.

I asked him if they could send me one with a clutch and he said that they couldn't guarantee that as it was, "crazy busy" there trying to get all these Triggers sent out ASAP.

I know it's not the end of the world if it doesn't come with one, but less time swapping parts over is more time to rip it up 😡

Mine has a clutch.

My Trigger 4 has a clutch. Built it last night and routed a Reverb Stealth internally which was surprisingly easy, still need to chop down some of the Reverb hose and stick on some frame protection patches.

My Trigger 4 has a clutch, and I've already done the 1x10 thing on it - and it works great.

Trigger 4 owners...a few questions if you don't mind...

I've only ridden mine twice in the dry so not really formulated my own opinion on the tyres (WTB Wolverine)...has anyone ridden them in a variety of conditions and decided to stick with them? Seems like there's not a lot of love for them. If you've kept them have you made them tubeless? Still undecided whether to bother or not.

The WTB seat....how you getting on with yours? Have an urge to replace it with a Charge Spoon as I know they're comfortable but know I should possibly give the current one a chance first - even though it looks like it could tear just by looking at it!

Currently 3 x 10 with the clutch mech...if I wanted to go 2 x 10 is it literally just a case of taking the big ring off and using shorter chainset bolts? I have a nice E13 bash but the BCD is not the same as my old 9 speed XT. TBH a bash probably isn't needed...how have you set yours up?

Cheers in advance.

To quote myself.

Harry_the_Spider - Member

Dunno. My Wolverines haven't tried to kill me yet, but I've only done 1,100 km on them.

Mine aren't tubeless. I can't be arsed changing them.

There is nothing wrong with the saddle and it hasn't shown any sign of wear apart from some of the orange paint wearing off the rails. I think it has some sort of surface finish on it that makes it "tacky" in the wet for a bit more grip. Which is nice.

Honestly, I see no need to change anything straight out of the box. Ride it for a couple of months then decide.

rascal:

1. WTB Wolverine. I've used these in the past, and know I don't get on with them, so the ones on the Trigger came off without having turned in anger. I actually found them very good on any trail they could "cut" into, but they were way too "drifty" for me on anything hardpacked and rocky - you know, like a trail centre. I'm being charitable with "drifty" 😉

2. No opinion - always run a Selle Italia Flite XC - that's what's on now.

3. Should be, yes. And adjust the high limit screw on the front mech to stop you overshifting into the void. Not really sure what this gains you, though? You're just limiting your top end gears and losing the weight of one chainring?

Taken my carbon 2 for one short ride around the Peak, I'm pretty blown away! It feels light even with heavy wheels. The tyres (mavic crossroad) did't work very well, spinning on technical climbs - I may try tubeless and dropping pressure.

I was expecting the lefty to be good (i have an f29), but it was really nice having the extra travel - I think I'll take the volume spacer out as I'm pretty light, this gives a plusher feel.

The elevate / flow modes work really well - in elevate there's basically no bob, feels very efficient.

Dropper post is a revelation (it's my first) - positioning the lever is tricky

Carbon cranks have already taken a whack - I bought the little boots for the ends but managed to damage halfway down.

From the specs page on the Paul's Cycles website:

Rear Derailleur Shimano SLX,[b] Shadow Plus. [/b]

So yes, should be a clutch one.

In light of the tyre situation, anyone got any suggestions? I currently use beavers or on one smorgs (get on really well with them) on my scandal 29er depending g on if I want a fast long distance winter ride or just a general trail ride (I am always impressed by what that little scandal can do)

Tempted just to go smorgs if they have an offer on but they are a bit heavy.

Just ordered a large trigger 4. I was aware of these before this thread even started and have finally got round to getting one. at 6'1" 1/2 i'm right on the border between large and xl, but that decision was made for me when xl's sold out. I think it will be fine as the top tube horizontal length is about 2 cm longer than the unfashionably short 10+ year old hustler it will be replacing.

Any views on how heavy the stock wheels are on the trigger 4 or what size of tyre you could fit on them? Would an Arch ex be much of an improvement?

rascal - my last bike had a WTB saddle, always fine (even though ridiculously it was white!). This one is fine for me too.

Out on a ride on Sunday and I thought a wasp had flown up my shorts and was stinging me. I then released the end had came off the cable on the seat post dropper and was stabbing me in the leg!

Contemplating a trigger 27.5 4 but wondered about people's ideas on sizing.

I currently have a 16.5 slackline which according to the geometry drawings is 20mm longer than the small cannondale but 10mm shorter than the medium. That's virtual measurement.

I am 5'7'' and currently ride with a 50mm stem and find the slackline just about right size wise, probably wouldn't want it any shorter so I guess I would be best with a medium and if it's a touch long get a slightly smaller stem than the stock one which is also 50mm.

Mine has arrived now. Just wondering has anyone fitted a 385mm lev? Will I be able to mount the post fully inserted in the frame?

Cheers for the feedback regarding the clutch mech guys. Bike should be here this week so will order a narrow wide chainring later.

Has anyone tried mounting the Elevate/Flow trigger switch on the left after removing the left shifter? Does it work under the bar or not?

Yes. Switch on the left. It looks much neater and works fine there. I will post a picture later.

Right. **** it. they seem to be selling out now so I'm gonna take a gamble on a Jekyll 2. Can anyone confirm that it comes with an alu bar? The Jekyll 3 seems to get a carbon, but the 2 is listed with an alu bar which seems a bit odd.

Does it matter? Really? A lot of people are "worrying the arse" out of this.

Buy it.

It's an ace bike.

Alloy bar
Carbon cranks
Really nice

Here is my brake/dropper/suspension arrangement. Works fine, although don't think it would fit if I was using a front shifter.

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Fair point Hairy. I worry the arse out of most things though. It's about the only thing I excel at 🙂 No doubt when it arrives I'll worry that the lefty will collapse under my weight and send me to a painful death. Via nettles.

I thought that with the lefty, but went out in it yesterday for the first time, rode some steep steps, and never gave it a second thought, they do feel very stiff, unlike a normal fork, I was surprised

Cheers Jason, that is the plan. Love my current 1x10 set up and this keeps the controls neat and out of the way.

When in elevate mode, does the fork lockout also or do you have to flick the CTD knob separately?

Fork is a separate lock out.

With so many triggers and Jekyls a Singletrack pauls bargain bike meet could be a laugh.

I converted front wheel to tubeless. Wolverines a bit tough to get loose. Took tube out added Stans, tyres put back in place and pumped like mad! Seems good! Was quite a bit of effort so rear tyre remains with tube!

I set mine up tubeless and they were fine for the first ride but then left the bike in the car all day and by the time I took it out they were deflated. Now the front one stays inflated for about 10 mins before being completely flat again having leaked at the valve and at the beads . Might use a Co2 inflator to get the beads properly seated or just go back to tubes.

On another note, would I be crazy to swap all of the 10spd slx and deore for my 9spd xtr? I like the double down shift of xtr and the 10spd stuff might be easier to sell off I decide to split my old bike. I assume the freewheel is still the same for 9 and 10spd.

I'd sell the 9spd and buy a 10spd xtr shifter.

Just bumping my question:

Just wondering has anyone fitted a 385mm lev? Will I be able to mount the post fully inserted in the frame?

I don't see why not. For shipping the Carbon 2 is supplied with the KS Lev post fully inserted in the frame, I didn't check the length but I am sure it will be 385mm or more. That is on a large frame, not sure what it is like on the smaller ones.

Mine is a small. I think the 385 is the total length extended.

It is 201mm insertion, there must be at least that right?

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Edit, actually I want the integra which is 216mm but theres 29mm of mechanism on the bottom so that might be ok near the bed in the seat tube.
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Mine arrived this morning. First thing that struck me when i looked in the box was how bloody solid the thing is built.

Next I was worried that it was too big but after a quick bit of measuring on my current bikes and roughly positioning crank to saddle etc I can just about squeeze a reverb with a 5" drop in there. phew!

It's not light though. Maybe I should have gone for the carbon with lefty but I wanted to spend the money on better wheels so held off.

Jesus! Its become like a women's institute coffee morning, this bloody thread.

For gods sake just get out and ride the bloody things, will you? 😀

Here's mine with some mud on.....

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Mines a decaf, where's the mud?

Another major bonus of the black paint job is that it doesn't seem to show the mud up. That pic was taken after we'd been grinding through the black boggy slime up on't moors, yet it looks spotless. It wasn't. So I have to clean it even less. I'm liking this bike more and more all the time 😀

It does look nice in black.

Has anyone tried changing the dust caps? Mine are transparent, but I was thinking of running with some black ones*. Also my brake levers are 4mm longer than on my other bike so I’m thinking of swapping everything other than the seat post bolt.

*or green.
Damn…
Hadn’t considered green.

LOL.

Here you go Harry, don't go green man. 😉
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Those grenades are the same colour as the frame, they will go nicely with the spokedokeys.

I have the carbon trigger 2 and fancy replacing the double chainrings with a single chainring, putting 11 speed off another bike on at the same time. Are the cranks GXP or PF30 (0mm or 6mm offset?) for a direct mount chainring.
I know they have a PF30 BB, but it seems you can get a PF 30 chainset that is also GXP somehow? This is all new to me, only used Shimano HTII & raceface cranksets in the past..

You'll need a long wrench for some leverage to get tbe crank off the Carbon 2....

Got a 1/2 drive budge bar & 8mm hex socket that will hopefully shift it!

Takes a fair bit of force to snap through the loctite

First ride on my 4 today. Climbs really well in the short travel setting and doesn't wallow like my old Zesty. Got some fiddling to do such as getting rid of the plastic disc behind the cassette, but what a bargain for a grand! I'm glad I didn't dither any longer on making my mind up!

I'm 6'1" and I bought a large. It's a right length but the frame is quite small in standover height so there's quite a bit of post sticking out. Not sure I'd have been happier with the XL though as it's quite a bit longer

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They've still got them in stock. They must have got absolutely shed loads of the things 😯

Looks like they have got more in as XL 4's now back in stock

Anyone about 5'7'' and can advise on the sizing of these?

Just changed my order from a large to xl before it was dispatched. I'm right on the border of sizes and think the xl will be better, maybe with a shorter stem. Thanks for the heads up on that. I'm afraid I think it was the last one, a previous customer had changed from xl to L before theirs was shipped.

If a large 3 comes back into stock I'll grab it

On the Carbon 2 you will need a GXP direct mount chain ring. A BB30 one would fit, but the chainline would be slightly out. It is a BB30 crankset with a long spindle. Absolute Black have a nice illustration on their website : http://www.absoluteblack.cc/mtb-chainrings/ (2nd box down on the right)

To agree with above the cranks took alot of force to remove. I thought something was going to break before the bolt finally moved!

Slimjim mine is a 4 not 3. Pauls did say they may get more 3's in a few months time but couldn't give a date.

On the Carbon 2 you will need a GXP direct mount chain ring. A BB30 one would fit, but the chainline would be slightly out. It is a BB30 crankset with a long spindle. Absolute Black have a nice illustration on their website : http://www.absoluteblack.cc/mtb-chainrings/ (2nd box down on the right)

To agree with above the cranks took alot of force to remove. I thought something was going to break before the bolt finally moved!

Demm. But on the bright side I suppose I can get one of those super cheap steel X-Sync rings that sram did.. Anyone need a short spindle direct mount oval ring?

Anyone about 5'7'' and can advise on the sizing of these?

I am 5ft 9 with a 30" inside leg and I was worried when the medium turned up but after setting up the axle centre to saddle height the same as my other bikes I have just over the minimum seatpost showing for a 125mm drop reverb.

It depends on your upper body though and if you want a dropper. You should get away with a 100mm drop post on a medium assuming a leg height of 29" and the reach should be fine as it has a set back post and I could do with a bit more length in the TT but wider bars on the stock length stem should help open up the cockpit a bit.

I would be tempted to say air on the side of caution and got for a medium but best thing to do would be measure the dimensions of your current bike, assuming you are happy with the fit, and compare them.

can anyone advise me.... a friend is looking to get his short-arsed GF a bike for next year.

the problem is, she really is a short-arse. about 155cm short.

would a small still be too big?

Arse! Thought an xl was on the cards again!

Interesting dust cap discussion up there. I noticed that one of the caps on my Dyad has fallen off.

Mine in it's natural environment while I laid on the ground gasping for air in my terribly unfit state.

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Update....So my Trigger 4 turned up yesterday after only ordering it Monday night. It does have the clutch mech fitted so 1x10 will be coming.

Size wise I'm 6'1 and ride an 18" Stanton Slackline. Ordered a large which feels fine although the seatpost needs to cut down as it doesn't drop enough due to the frame design.

Lightweight she isn't...around 33lbs with nylon pedals in 3x10 guise, although for £999 I'm not complaining. My Slackline is 31lbs so I'm used to a heavy rig.

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