[Closed] Cannondale Trigger? Bargain

Mine has gone to the shop who are dealing with it for me!

Cheers Zerolight. ATC had spoken to Cannondale and didn't mention any of that. I can use my other bike in the interim so no great loss if it is 3 weeks, but I might check anyway.
@ Zilog6128. Check the link on the previous page. It covers 1st Gen Supermax I believe

First gen supermax was 2013 so my original Trigger isn't covered by the warranty thug but it will fit, so just send to TFTuned.

First gen supermax was 2013 so my original Trigger isn't covered by the warranty thug but it will fit, so just send to TFTuned.

I don't think it's really a mandatory upgrade. It's mandatory for a dealer to use the new part during a service is all. They are merely offering newer owners the chance to get it done for free outwith a service.

Kato, check this [url= http://www.cannondaleexperts.com/Cannondale-Reducer-Headset--SIHeadshok-to-15-1-18-Tapered_p_1042.html ]linky[/url], looks like what you probably want to move from Lefty to something like a Pike. I love my Lefty though.

I just spoke to AllTerrain on the phone.
"Drop the bike off, we'll take the fork off and send it to Cannondale or whoever it is that is fixing them and then call you when it's ready, it'll be £20 for our labour and postage."

Erm, no it bloody won't be. I am not paying a penny so I either ring other dealers and see who will do it for free (pretty sure like most other 'warranty issues' they will be reimbursed for their labour??)

I was fairly happy to pay the £20 given I didn't buy it from them and it saved me figuring out how to take the lefty off.

I'm paying for shipping to TFT. Alpine stripping it for free. It's not really a warranty issue. It's a free upgrade that can otherwise wait until service.

That's basically how I see it too.

I don't think it's really a mandatory upgrade. It's mandatory for a dealer to use the new part during a service is all. They are merely offering newer owners the chance to get it done for free outwith a service.

Unfortunately he also said they don't do Dyad shocks & he didn't know who did any more... probably mentioned already on this thread but I'm not trawling through 44 pages! Any recommendations for servicing?

MOJO for Dyad Servicing - FOX UK main agent.

I e-mailed Cannondale who state that they will be doing the work, they will credit stores to remove the fork and they will also arrange collection 'so you should not be charged for this'. I won't be paying the £20 unless it is totally refundable. (surely dealers know they'll be refunded? I have a motorcycle and any warranty work is authorised by the manufacturer and I am not charged, the dealer claims back costs from manufacturer...like Cannondale state should happen)

Quick question for anyone with the Carbon 2 trigger - What do your Sram cranks appear to be made of? I've gouged mine up on the ends and they seem to be covered in some very resilient coating or made of carbon but that can't be right. No biggie Im just wondering.

Ta.

Mine are carbon as far as I'm aware. I believe that's what the spec states too.

Yup its a sram S2210 carbon not the s1400 advertised. Bonus - I think.

Carbon on mine and I've gouged them a few times aswell.

Never really thought about it but just googled them and it's the same as X0. Happy with that!

Yup I just noticed when cleaning it they were all scratched up but no alloy showing seems they are XO OEM cranks and I'm about to stick a £3.99 NW direct mount steel chainring on them, oh the shame...

First proper ride in anything other than dry track today. Blimey, the Crossroc roam tyres are dire. Never ridden a bike that felt so bad. I'll rattle through the 44 pages to see what others have swapped to unless anyone wants to save me the hassle. Thanks

High Roller 2 3c and Ikon for dry/intermediate

High Roller 2 3c and Minion dhr2 wet/mud

Marvellous. Thanks.

I'm using the tubeless variant of Michellin Wild Grip R which work well and are popular in here.

Ditto the above. Excellent excellent tyres

Michelin Rock'R front and a chunky monkey on the rear for maximum tail out fun with a front that hooks up on everything.

Im running a Butcher up front and a Slaughter at the back.

Took the kids out for a wee ride today and couldn't resist a snap of my pride n joy...

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Love the Red, nicer colour scheme them my Team.

The love affair is now fully over with and Cannondale's Crack-n-fail reputation remains. 👿

I've posted a few times in this thread since buying a Jekyll last September. I went from initial new bike joy to the realisation that the Jekyll was going to take some work to get it dialled and that I was struggling with it.

I changed the bars to un cut Renthals, Maxxis Minion/HR, offset bushes, 1x10 gearing, hours of shock fiddling and it still wasnt 100%.

The final straw was a trip to Antur Stiniog riding the blue/reds and mincing down the odd black. Came home washed it and noticed it had cracked.

The warranty replacement has just arrived and wont be built - I'd bought a replacement frame immediately.

In summary;

The shock feels bottomless on single hits and the travel adjust is brilliant, but it suffers harsh spiking on repeated fast hits.

The BB is too high and needs offset bushes.

The head angle is too steep for an 'enduro' frame.

The non replaceable rear axle threads are an absolute shite idea-why not build into the (replaceable) mech hanger?

BB30 whatever Cannondale specific standard it uses is crap - the Sram 1400 cranks are good because you can fit a direct mount NW but are otherwise too flexy. Wanting to run anything else needs the expense of a Praxis converter.

Stupid Cannondale specific rear brake mount.

Bust the rear gear cable from a rock strike - running hoses and cables underneath the downtube is another crap idea - especially when they don't offer a downtube guard for the alloy frame but they do for the carbon model.

All in all - a good trail bike but nowhere near good enough or capable to be classed as an enduro bike.

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What did you replace it with?

Nukeproof Mega TR - needed something XL/20" sized in a hurry. Turns out its far better than the Jekyll hence why the Cannondale is for sale.

Also conventional cupped headset and standard threaded BB

Has anyone changed the BB on a carbon model? Team specifically? Any recommendations on what to replace with? Any special tools required?

The Nukeproof certainly looks the part. My next bike won't be a Cannondale!

The Nukeproof certainly looks the part. My next bike won't be a Cannondale

On the whole they arnt bad, my old Prophet (a project bike I built-last year, check my posting history) was sublime, and my Trail singlespeed29er is great. The problem for me was that the Jekyll is labelled as an Enduro bike and its clearly nowhere near. A friend bought a Transition Patrol at the same time and its in a different league. The one thing going for the Jekyll (and Triggers) from Pauls cycles is that they were cheap.

This is my Jekylls replacement and its lightyears better;

http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/those-cheap-silver-and-red-20-nukeproof-megas-look-better

Had a prophet myself and am an owner of a trigger at present. I understand that there's always going to be problems/failures but seen a few too many from cannondale this last 12 months... my next bike will be a bird I think.

Getting a bit fed up with backpacks, so I tried one of my bikepacking frame bags & it just happens to be the exact size/shape to fit my medium Trigger 29! Don't know if the geometry is the same with the newer 650b bikes but could be worth a shot. The bag is a Deuter if anyone's interested.

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Has anyone heard any more about the fork upgrade? Are the parts in the UK yet?

I sent my lefty to Tf Tuned last week under warranty and on the paperwork it says that the upgrade air spring was fitted

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Does it feel any different?

TFT still saying awaiting parts. My bike is still with me until then.

Ashy, i will be honest. No it doesn't feel any different.

Anyone else's Lev not return all the way to the top? Mine seems to stop about 1cm from a hard stop. I can hold the button and pull it all the way up. Sags a little when you sit on it so I set the height to compensate. Just wondering if it's normal. My mates reverb returns with a hard clunk and locks there.

Think that sounds busted. Mine definitely returns to the top with a clunk. Not heard any more about my lefty, but intriguing that Astormatts has been done already!

Astormatt's fork HASN'T been done. He had a new Solo Air fitted not the new 2Spring. Check that receipt...

Unless that's how they refer to fitting a 2Spring.

I'm probably wrong.

Ashy, Pauls said the same. I've contacted Jungle about a warranty repair. Thanks.

Hi Guys,

I've got a pair of black Chris king ISO hubs for sale rear is 142x12 xd drive and the front hub is for a lefty fork

If anyone is interested before I put them on the classified section give me a shout my email is Brianodonnell2005ATyahooDOTcoDOTuk

Cheers

Brian

My dropper wasn't retuning to the top either. Reverb stealth though. Turned out to be an over tightened seat clamp. I was delighted it was such an easy fix.

Crazy, I completely loosened my seat clamp. No worky. I used a torque wrench to tighten and even then not all the way so probably not that.

Ashy

I see you've converted your carbon 2 to 1x10. What parts, including chain retention do I need to replicate. My bike slips lower gears on the big ring - local shop thinks chain line might be out. Thinking 1x10 might help.

Cannondale have the parts now, ss t off quite a few now,all returned back and they don't feel any different. Just as bad as they did before!

All the forks that come back come with a sticker on saying 2 Spring so that's a way of telling if it has been done or not

Thought I'd check out the seatpost on my dropper (non stealth X fusion) after these posts, as it didn't feel like the post was coming up all the way... not enough cable pulled through the frame! 😳

Pie, not sure what you mean by just as bad. My Lefty is brilliant. If it is still merely brilliant when 2spring is done I'll be happy.

If I was to fit something like a raceface direct mount 32t in place of the spider, how do I correct the chain line? Can you go bigger than 36t at the back. I regularly climb brutal hills that have me down on the 24t.

I have an Absolute Black 32 NW oval with XT 11speed on my Jekyll- works a treat.

I presume you needed new wheels to run 11 speed though?

Nope, the 11sp cassette fits on to the normal Shimano 10sp freewheel

Ok. Thanks. Maybe I will wait a bit then go 1x11 with a new cassette, mech, and shifter. Wonder what the current XT 10sp front and rear mech, shifters, and cassette are worth used.

Is there a time limit on sending the lefty back for the recall? Seems to me if I send it now it's going to be in a queue and it will take ages?

I doubt if there is a limit. It should be done automatically when you get it services. I don't actually thinks its a recall, just it will be changed the next time they see it.

Cheers, whats the actual process? If I bob to Evans they send it off and ring me when they get it back?

Well I figured out what's up with my outer front ring. It's struck a rock at some point. Bent a tooth! Gah.

Ok. So I definitely need a new chain ring immediately given my bashed outer. Looking at a direct mount Raceface 32t or maybe an oval. Might as well switch the rear cassette too. Thinking of staying 10 speed to save cash. Thoughts onusing a sunrace 11-42 10sp cassette? Will it work with the XT rear mech fitted to the Carbon 2? What about the Praxis 11-42? Would I be better on 11-40?

I assume the direct mount the raceface can go on in place of the spider on the sram crankset? Do I need a different spacer? How do I get the cranks off? Do I need a crank puller? I have one I used with isis cranks aeons ago, but I presume that won't work.

Cheers.

I run a sunrace mx3 on my trigger and ms3 on my hard tail. Both ten speed. 11 - 42. Both with 32 tooth oval 104 bcd superstar narrow wide chain rings.
I didn't need a crank puller for my deore cranks. My chain line is fine but I think you can get spacers if needed.
I'm running slx shifter on one and saint on the other.
I love it.

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This was a spectator day on the trigger. Chasing a capra and a stanchion down a natural rocky trail. I'm amazed that people don't find the jekyll hardcore enough. My trigger is a baddass.

I'm amazed that people don't find the jekyll hardcore enough.

The Jekyll geometry isnt good enough as standard, sort that so you can start to utilise it and then the bloody thing cracks.

I haven't ridden a jekyll so can't comment, but i love my trigger. It's the only bike i have liked straight out of the box. Does everything from marathons to uplift days.....
Maybe not the best in it's class, but generally good at everything in my experience.

Thanks Crazy.

There is obviously no excuse for cracks on a frame.
I don't think things are so black and white though. I think Geometry of a bike is on a scale between uphill and down hill capability. I think cannondale tried to do both. Doesn't make them bad bikes but does mean it's not a downhill specialist like the gt stanchion.
Some people it may suit others it won't. I suppose this is why we should be test riding. ?maybe next time.

I thought Jerome Clementz won all sorts of Enduro races on the Jekyll?

Ordered an MX3 and a direct mount Absolute Black 32t Oval. Also posted off my seat post. Does a wide narrow chain ring need a retention device?

I don't use any extra chain retension. I've only dropped my chain when I've forgotten to put my clutch back on. This has happened enough for me to be considering one.
Yeah clementz does OK on the Jekyll. Won the championship in 2013 and usually a top ten finisher. He doesn't run the lefty. Which is a shame.

but generally good at everything in my experience

Don't have one on my 32 Oval, chain stays on fine.

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Second guessing myself - would I be better with a 30t oval, or is the 32t fine. Looks like a compromise either way, and whilst I don't go to my 24/36 gearing that often, there are a few climbs where I get there. On the other hand, going to 30t seems like it loses about two gears at the top end, and I suppose again, I don't get there often, but I do get there.

Cheers Andy and Crazy - I will run without a retention doodah for now, see how I go.

Gah. Ordered the BB30 instead of the GXP ring!

You won't need a chain device.
I'm running a 30T NW with a Sunrace 40 - dropped chain twice ever and that was an Innerleithen DH.

Anyone still using the Cannondale stem?...ditched the 80mm and now running a Straightline 50mm which makes it a bit more responsive.

I'm still using the Cannondale stem but on the Carbon it's only 60mm and I'd not want any shorter. Thanks for feedback on the 1x10.

I'm yet to drop a chain on a narrow wide chain ring.