5ft 10 on a medium Jekyll. I was worried about standover height with a high bottom bracket and a 33 inside leg if I went large. Happy with the medium.
Thanks Eddie & Thrusty
Ill report back with pictures when mine arrives.
I'm 6' - 6' 1" and went for a large Trigger 4 27.5 - hoping Mr TNT delivery man has a present for me tomorrow 😛
On a different note, any Trigger owners out there?
I want to put my non-Stealth Reverb on it - the guy at Paul's says there are no hose guys as the hose is 'semi internal' as it goes through the frame and pops out somewhere in the seat tube....will a 'normal'* length Reverb be ok? Obviously it'll need an unavoidable certain amount of hose/lever dismantling to feed it through - anyone done this?
*Realise I need to measure hose 😕
Looking forward to pics Rascal, I'm still quivering over a large 4, I'm playing chicken with the stock levels
They had 20 when I called them yesterday morning - not sure if that was 20 large or 20 in total though so that doesn't help you much...I saw then thread Sat evening for 1st time - ermed and arrghed quite excitedly and was on the blower at bang on 10am when they opened yesterday - I wouldn't hang around for too long!
Ordered a medium last night, dispatched today, hope to hell it fits her! Big question is, should I splash on the Trigger 2 for myself...?!
scotjohn - do you really need to ask?
If the better half has a new bicyclette then obviously you should too 😉
I also bought a Trigger from Paul's over the weekend. I had been tempted by a Trigger and a Lefty for some time, and the price seems great for the spec. I am 6 foot and went for a large carbon 2. Now just waiting for TNT to deliver it - And then I need to sell some bikes to justify buying it....
I will change it to 1x10 straight away, but other than that it will stay as it is for a while. Although already thinking about wheel upgrades as I have a spare set of 650b rims in the loft, and I am not sure on the weight/quality of the Crossrocs?
scotjohn, that was part of the reason I bought mine, as my wife had just got herself a new bike. So it was only fair I has a bit of an upgrade too.
The carbon 2 looks great for the money. I really want the lefty and carbon frame but don't want to splash nearly 2k for it, even though it's a good deal.
The alloy 4 at £999 psychologically seems cheap enough to stick on a credit card and absorb the hit.. But after I've fitted a dropper.. I'm already at alloy 3 pricing.. Then only a few hundred from carbon/lefty territory.. Argh!
I simply can't make my mind up on whether not stretching for the carbon will drive me mad or not.
What I really need are a few of you brave buyers to hurry up and feedback just how amazing these things are to ride...
Similar position Jason, I really need to shift a bike to justify this, as I'm not doing a huge amount of riding at the moment. The deals seem too good to miss out on.
Regretting going out and buying a new TV on Saturday now! I wouldn't be hesitating if I'd not bought that.
Carbon out for delivery today 🙂
Anyone?I want to put my non-Stealth Reverb on it - the guy at Paul's says there are no hose guys as the hose is 'semi internal' as it goes through the frame and pops out somewhere in the seat tube....will a 'normal'* length Reverb be ok? Obviously it'll need an unavoidable certain amount of hose/lever dismantling to feed it through - anyone done this?
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So confused over sizing - was going to go for large but frame reach is the same on medium as my current (large/19") Stache.
I'm 5'11 and averagely proportioned, which should I go for?
I want to put my non-Stealth Reverb on it - the guy at Paul's says there are no hose guys as the hose is 'semi internal' as it goes through the frame and pops out somewhere in the seat tube....will a 'normal'* length Reverb be ok? Obviously it'll need an unavoidable certain amount of hose/lever dismantling to feed it through - anyone done this?
If I get mine today I will confirm, but from what I have seen the dropper cable runs externally underneath the down tube, and then enters a hole at the base of the seat tube. From there it runs internally to the base of the seatpost. So I am not sure how you would make a non-stealth reverb fit any of the internal routing?
It is shown here:
nice link Jason.
Does anyone know if its possible to mount the gash looking travel adj. lever on the LH underside of bar, a la Reverb lockout?
Ermahgerd, what have you done. Having thought my FS itch had gone, and settled on my current crop of (hardtail/rigid) bikes, I now find myself thinking £1000 is bugger all on that sort of bike (same as a Calibre Bossnut ffs), credit card could stick it, I could flog one bike, or two.
Or, I could sell them all, blow the lot and get the carbon 2 with the lefty, what a lovely bloody bike.
I have lost my mind and ordered a Jekyll 4.
Jason - you're right - it does go under the down tube and enters the frame at the bottom of the seat tube.
Hopefully there's an exit hole at the top where the hose comes out - otherwise its Stealth only - arse.
Seems quite a long messy way of doing it considering it's right in the firing line of loose rock strikes.
Might buy some stick-on hose guides and run it under the top tube…hopefully it'll be there when I arrive home tonight so can assess then.
Hopefully there's an exit hole at the top where the hose comes out - otherwise its Stealth only - arse.
Seems quite a long messy way of doing it considering it's right in the firing line of loose rock strikes.
Why would there be a hole out of the seat tube after it had gone in!?
Its a perfectly sensible place, plently of people running cables and hoses there with not issue.
Just run the external reverb along the down tube and then route up along the side of the shock and inside the linkage. I do that routing on my DH and XC bike in the past, stops it sticking out in a big flappy mess like when people secure it tight to the top tube. If you get the curve of the routing right you dont end up with the hose coming outside the silhouette of the front triangle when post is compressed, so its actually more protected.
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So what is a good lefty wheelset upgrade for the trigger2 carbon? The Mavics look alreet, but I do like a slightly wider rim. Saw a german site doing custom build DT Swiss sets with 240s front & back, about £450 with EX471 rims & competition spokes..
Sorry more stupid questions from me...
Having first ruled out the Trigger in favour of the Jekyll and it's longer travel sus. I'm now wondering how much difference 20mm will make. The bike I hired over the summer for DHing had 160mm of travel - hence looking at the Jekyll.
Would the Trigger (and it's 20mm less travel) still be fine for someone who will be using the bike on local fairly tame trails weekly (Chicksands and Woburn), the odd day at a trail centre with maybe a couple of weeks each year in alpine bike parks/gentle off piste.
Sorry, bit clueless when it comes to FS.
Mine has just arrived.
There are a couple of (un-used) cable guides down the back of the seat tube. These are there to run an external cable, so down the back of the seat tube under the BB and up the down tube. It is fitted with a stealth that looks neater.
The wheels are fitted with tubes, but tubeless rims strips are fitted and valves are in the box.
Supplied with carbon cranks (which I wasn't expecting).
I will post some pictures up this evening.
Reverb: on the 29er here there's no stealth routing but 2x cable clips for an external hose underneath the top tube.
Slimjim,I'm using my travel adjust lever under the bar next to the left hand grip. My bike has no front shifter, so there's space. It's actually easier to use. Push forward to decrease travel with the thumb and release using the outside of the first finger.
@hammerite have you read this review? http://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-reviews/long-term-review-2015-cannondale-trigger-carbon-2-27-5/ gave me confidence that I wouldn't need anything more (inc. for the odd trip abroad). So unless you do really techy stuff or race enduro I'm not sure you'd need the Jekyll over the Trigger
I'm sat waiting for my Trigger to turn up, where are you TNT man!
Mine has just arrived.Supplied with carbon cranks (which I wasn't expecting).
I will post some pictures up this evening.
Yeah baby! Looking forward to the pics - the quality of which may well win Paul another sale (or not)
You should have a carbon riser fitted too on the Trigger 2? The others are alloy.
Yeah I did read that FuzzyWuzzy, that's one of the things that swayed me towards the Trigger (that and £350 difference!)
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New style caliper mount loosen them a few turns and off it pops.
Phwoar! XL?
Sobs...where is my new credit card I need to order a bike....
Nice machine Parkesie. Just need to get rid of the dork disc on the rear wheel and good to go !!
Its a xl as im on the tall side 🙂 its all ready to go ride now feels good riding up and down the road. Some shock fettling to do aswell.
The Trigger is awesome. My 29 eats the miles up, really fancy trying the 27.5. That red colour though is much nicer than mine.
Looks like mine 🙂
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Mine is a large.
Only difference I can spot on yours is the front disc hose is routed the correct way. Mine goes straight up the leg, but seems to work fine. You also have a red cable, all mine are black.
I need to switch some bits over from another bike (cranks, chain, cassette), remove the front mech, and tidy up the cables before I take it out for a spin.
It looks well in red and black.
Thats a nice looking bike that Jason .
Mine arrived a couple of hours ago, seemed simple enough to set up - getting the dork disc off took me the longest time lol (could have done without the pedal warning stickers to, hate labels that don't peel off easy!). Seems a bit OTT on cable length and I noticed if you turn the bars fully to the right when you return them to centre the rear brake hose and dropper cable get trapped and bulge out between the lefty leg and head tube but shouldn't be an issue in use. Can't wait to take it out for a spin tomorrow, hopefully I don't see another 20 of them bombing about the local trails :p
A good way to spot a singletracker
Jason, how's it feel for length on first impressions? I don't mind slack angles but I prefer a longer cockpit
Mine was waiting when I got home 😛
Unpacked - bloody lovely!
Took it for a spin around the close - the size is bang on.
Initial thoughts are that it rolls quickly - not sure if that's in my head as it's a 27.5.
Nice big wide bars - 760 and I'm used to 710mm.
Shock and forks need setting up but dead pleased - especially as it was (only) a grand!
Didn't realise how much more substantial 1.5 headtibe is over 1.125 - huge!
A have a Reverb I want to put on but the hose is waaaaayyyyyy too short at 1.2m (guessing previous owner cut it down).
Someone previously mentioned running the hose under the downtube but with 4 available cable guide slots already filled with 2 x mech cable, shock cable and rear brake I'm unsure what to do.
I'd have to get a 2m hose and cut it down for this to work anyway.
Anyone running a dropper as I guess you'll have the same 'problem'?
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Can't see your pics!
How's the weight?
Is there a cable taking up the internal routed grommet on RHS behind headtube? I figured the dropper post may route down there
Wow! Parksie, ya sure must be a happy chappy!
Makes me almost want to try a Cannondale, I always fancied an ELO Lefty back in the day, they looked impressive when their paint schemes were funkadelik.
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On the carbon frame the shock cable is run inside the down tube. Enters on the left side by the headtube and exits just below the shock. Is there a exit hole near the shock on yours?
Slimjim, I would say it is fairly long (which suits me) although I haven't taken it for a spin yet.
What size frame for me then? 6ft tall, 32" inside leg, long arms, currently on large mk2 soul and large mk2 scandal 29....
Agree with Jason, looks like routing is for external dropper hose, running inside the downtube, exiting on the seat tube just behind the shock. Then clipped in place on (currently) redundant hose guide on the seat tube then up and out between the pivot/rocker.
Kinda cool in a semi/internal set up way. Tricky to route a Reverb though, full bleed required?
Order placed. Went for the Trigger 3 mainly as it comes with a dropper and double chainring rather than a triple. Probably should have gone for the 4 and bought a reverb and other bits, but I'm time poor at the moment to make any changes.
slimjim - just noticed that too and yes I think a full bleed in inevitable.
I'm going to have to get a 2m hose and cut it down anyway.
Bike now partly taken apart. The chainset was really hard to remove, it took loads and loads of effort to get the 10mm bolt to budge, but it did in the end.
Spotted a missing cable tie, just below the dropper post entry point. Parkesie, worth checking yours as without it the dropper cable was rubbing on the swing arm.
The tyres go up easily without tubes, although they need sealant to fully seal. Currently allowed to work on it in the house as it is a new bike, but thought using sealant was pushing it!
core, you are the same size as me. I haven't ridden the bike yet, but in the picture above the saddle rails are 72cm above the bb (same as my other bikes) and it seems about right for me. The dropper post could go up another 3cm in the frame, so I could fit on a medium frame, but prefer a slightly longer TT. I would have thought a large would be fine for you. Or wait a day or two and I will let you know once I have ridden it.
That'd be good please Jason.
How long did standard delivery take?
I ordered mine on Saturday. Despatched on Monday, delivered Tuesday. That was standard delivery.
Ordered sat night in the pub arrived tuesday. Im still sat looking at mine wondering where to ride it this weekend 🙂
They are a lot of bike for the money. The Lefty Max alone is getting on for a grand.
Order placed 😮
I was swaying towards the Carbon 2, but in reality I'd just be spending the extra for the bling factor, and long term the alu 4 with its traditional forks, hub etc is probably a better bet for me.
Even with a dropper purchase to add, the 4 will work out ~ £650 cheaper and be all the bike I need.
90% ready to press the order button, just need to decide what I'm gonna sell.......... 😕
Clicking the purchase button will force me to get my arse in gear and sell some bikes/stuff.
What sort of weight are the Carbon 2's coming in at?
Desperately trying to avoid hitting buy on one of the 4s! How do they size up (just out of interest obviously!)? I'd normally ride a 16"/small frame & I'm 5'8" on a good day. Ta
Core- totally agree with you until the point I realised the 4 has a triple set up. Not a fan of the chainset either, so the 3 or the carbon 2 are beginning to look more appealing to me, although want to go shimano over SRAM this time.
The chainset I could live with, 3x10 a bit meh, but not a huge cost to go 1 or 2x10 in a few weeks or months time/when something wears out or breaks.
I was thinking about the 3, particularly as it comes with the dropper but it's all SRAM drivetrain, and magura brakes - I'd rather stay shimano.
The carbon 2 in large is about 12kg. My digital scales are a bit rubbish, but each time I weighed it gave a weight just under 12kg. That is with spds fitted, a single direct mount ring on the front, no front mech or shifter, and tubeless at the back (I haven't taken the inner tube out at the front yet).
I am not sure what model the cranks actually are. They weigh about the same as a set of carbon X0 cranks I was going to fit, but the S1400 description implys X7 cranks. I guess they are some sort of SRAM OEM made up model. Seem pretty good whatever they are. I ended up using the original cranks as my other BB30 cranks didn't fit due to the axle being too short.
Bah, price for the Carbon trigger 2 has gone up to 2k.. Still good value for money I suppose..
I just got in before the price went up.
Someone mentioned back there that they ordered the 4 over the 3 as they didn't like the spec of the 3. I have been looking at it too, its 279 more expensive and the real difference is:
[b]1) Sram x9/x7 20 speed over the 4's shimano slx 30 speed. [/b]
OK I prefer 20 speed, but so what really is the sram offering better than slx? I don't think so.
2[b]) Formula brakes over SLX brakes. [/b]My past experience with magura was woeful and I like the slx a lot so I would rather have slx please.
[b]3) the provision of an x fusion hi-lo vs a normal seat post.[/b] For 160 you can get a reverb, which I would rather, or for 250 get a lev
[b]4) Black rather than blue.[/b] Yes the colour is better. I prefer the black.
Comments? Better off getting the 4, who cares about the colour and upgrading what you want rather than getting a shit spec 3?
Someone mentioned back there that they ordered the 4 over the 3 as they didn't like the spec of the 3. I have been looking at it too, its 279 more expensive and the real difference is:
1) Sram x9/x7 20 speed over the 4's shimano slx 30 speed.
OK I prefer 20 speed, but so what really is the sram offering better than slx? I don't think so.
2) Formula brakes over SLX brakes. My past experience with magura was woeful and I like the slx a lot so I would rather have slx please.
3) the provision of an x fusion hi-lo vs a normal seat post. For 160 you can get a reverb, which I would rather, or for 250 get a lev
4) Black rather than blue. Yes the colour is better. I prefer the black.
Comments? Better off getting the 4, who cares about the colour and upgrading what you want rather than getting a shit spec 3?
I went for the 4 as I didn't want Sram & Magura.
The shifters & rear mech is SLX, as are the brakes. The chain set and front mech is Deore.
If you don't want 3 rings it's a cheap fix - I'll go bash & Stinger as I have newish anyway.
Fitting any dropper that's non-Stealth will involve faffing as a bleed will be needed which is fine - I couldn't not have a Reverb now I'm used to one.
The blue is lovely in the flesh.
Not played with the forks or (complicated looking) shock yet.
The 4 is a ridiculous amount of bike for A GRAND!
Replace/modify as you go.
Buy one before they all go or you'll regret it!
Great deal. Best I can find in ox is nearly 5k
https://www.bikeexchange.com.au/a/27-5-dual-suspension-mountain-bikes/cannondale/vic/bentleigh/trigger-carbon-2/102676018
13k for the trigger black
Oz?
Yup
Db/cooper - you make a compelling argument..
Shall I do it?.. Shall I buy a 4?...
Clicking the purchase button will force me to get my arse in gear and sell some bikes/stuff.
Keep telling yourself that
Working from home today, so took the new bike out for a spin around the block at lunch time:
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It seems great so far. First impressions are that it is definitely a bike with several personalities; works great as an xc bike (admittedly the HA is a bit slack for proper a proper xc bike). Then point it downhill and it seems to turn into a totally different machine. I had a few issues with the rear tyre burping air, not sure what caused it, but something isn't quite right.
Large feel good then Jason?
Yes large is a great fit.
Well i was massively over biked on my commute today 🙂 stock tyres dont like wet roots or slippery rock. Very much hard pack and dust tyres. The dual shock trick works well swapping between full bounce and small bounce for climbing. It reminds me alot of my 2005 prophet in the way it rides just a bit slacker with a stiffer back end.
I was going to take a punt on the trigger 2 carbon when it was 1799.. just noticed it went up 200 quid. How do these bikes size up? I'm 6ft 1" with a 34" inside leg. Currently ride a large asr5 which feels 'slightly' small..
I'm 6'3" 34 leg the seat post is an inch out of the frame and it's spot on for me in xl
Yeh I was thinking an xl but there now all sold out
