Lost all faith in it now. I'm 110kgs all up and it just isn't up to the job IMHO.
I've been giving mine some hammer on a few downhills and its been solid as a rock so can't see how that's anything other than a manufacturing flaw. Keep us posted on how you get on.
Thats mega unlucky jools hopefully pauls and cannondale sort you out. As above i cant see that being anything other than a defect. Mine has been coping fine with 100kg and some serious hammering.
I am also 100kg+ and not a squeak. Fingers crossed it'll be warrantied for you, but don't let it put you off what is a great bike (easy to say I know)
My trigger 2 carbon broke at the flex point in the stays 2 after say 4?5? months use. Pauls wanted the whole bike back as they said "We (cannonade) haven't seen this before" but got a new frame out me in under 2 weeks. so don't despair 🙂
Hope you get it sorted Joolsburger. I had a problem with my dropper failing after a handful of rides (X-Fusion shite!). I know yours is obviously far more serious, but when it came to the warranty claim Pauls were brilliant!
I am absolutely gutted. It was set up 100% correctly with the right amount of sag checked by three people! I think it bottomed out and the stays couldn't handle it. Such a shame as it was really riding well. However if it's going to do that off a tiny log drop onto a slope not even a flat landing, I'm just not confident of the bike even if they do replace it.
That's an odd one. Must be some defect. The Trigger can take a lot of abuse and has been used on the Enduro circuit a lot. Any more pics?
Pauls are great so far arranging collection and seem to think it's no fault of mine. Let's hope Cannondale are equally reasonable. I'll update when I know more.
Good stuff.
Pauls are great so far
One would hope so as this thread is basically a 32 page advert for them that has been running for 7 months!
I have to say that I bought a load of stuff off them in a previous job where I coordinated the cycle scheme and they were spot on. I also bought a Trigger off them before they became popular.
You trendsetter, you!
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Paul's are changing the back end for a new one they have and should have me back up and running pretty quickly, so that's good work. I am taking it as read from all the comments on here about the trigger that this is very likely a one off defect and I can actually trust this bike, fingers crossed if it snaps again I'll be miffed!
Paul's have been excellent so far so 10 points to them, perfect response.
Great outcome! Well done Pauls
The epitome of style! 😀
Jools, were you at the top of Pitch Hill roughly around 10am? I was up there with a couple of friends. Commented on the lovely red Cannonade Trigger someone was sat on admiring the view.
And what a view it was!
Anyone had a problem with the formula rear hub seizing on on their trigger 4.
Mine seems to have lasted about five months.Can you change the bearings easily enough or is it a lbs job.
cheers dave
Pauls are really good at helping customers out. They buy extra frames to assist in issues like this so you don't have to wait for Cannondale uk. Makes me wonder if Paul's know Cannondale uk are poor when it comes to dealing with warranty/crash claims.
So just spoke to the guy at Paul's. What an amazing level of customer service. I'll have my bike back by Tuesday with a completely new rear end and shock. I have to say I can be a bit of a difficult customer at times but these guys have really impressed me.
I'm hoping that Cannondale won't try and weasel out of sorting them out so I'm going to send over a few pics of the drop I did to show it's not exactly what you'd call big...
I would recommend Paul's bikes to anyone, seriously good guys.
Excelent result. Give it another chance they are amazing bikes.
So, I managed to lose my chain on the red/black at Stainburn at the weekend. Anybody fitted a chain device to their trigger? Is it possible with an oval ring or a very bad idea indeed?!
will this fit? [url= https://www.evanscycles.com/oneup-components-low-direct-mount-chain-guide-EV276316?esvt=1482-GOUKE1556800&esvq=&esvadt=999999-0-832496-1&esvcrea=99008406536&esvplace=&esvd=c&esvo=EV276316-NA-BLK&esvaid=50080&gclid=Cj0KEQjw3-W5BRCymr_7r7SFt8cBEiQAsLtM8okh7y6mTOGK4J7G8jkAfqIU_aJHRKnlD20Y9zhdUWIaAgHZ8P8HAQ ]OneUp Direct Mount[/url]
edit-scratch that- it wont. Needs to be high direct mount
Interested to hear what you go for Ashy or anyone else who has already fitted a chain device to their trigger. I've lost my chain a couple of times so thinking of going for a device, just unsure of what will work.
I've forgotten to put my clutch on a couple of times. It's rattled like crazy but never come off surprising. Might be due to my derailleur been close to max stretch?
I just put a super star ring on and had no dramas clutch on or off.now my legs have manned up I even manage with the original cassette.
I have used mine with a single (narrow wide) ring since I have had it, and haven't dropped the chain yet. That is with a XT rear mech.
I'd not dropped my chain before this weekend and I'm using an oval narrow wide with correct length chain and etc. I don't want to add too much weight so don't need anything full on. I've seen this one- [url= http://77designz.com/product/freesolo-iscg-03-bsa ]Very expensive and tiny chain device[/url] and apparently there's an oval chainring compatible version coming soon. I'm just struggling to justify £45 for something that weighs 20g...
The one up chain device is similar but a bit cheaper and oval chainring compatible
But won't fit the trigger....
My XL Carbon Trigger arrived yesterday, looks great. I need to find some fatter grips, and maybe shorten some cables/hoses, then will be ready to go.
Has anyone done anything about protecting the downtube and the exposed cables & hoses? Or should I stop worrying?
Just went to check air pressure on the DYAD and oil flowed out of the positive and negative valves, any ideas what is wrong with it?
I bought the rock guardz downtube protector for the 29er. Just to confirm it doesn't fit the 27.5er. If anyone is near rock guardz apparently they can make one up.
I just wrapped part of a wtb wolverine around my down tube, better use for it than as a tyre.
Well it's back from Paul's with a new back end and I'm hoping that's an end of it and it will be fine here on in.
Once again a big thumbs up from me for Paul's cycles especially Will who is an asset to their business AFAIC.
Good news! Now get out and give it some hammer!
hey - I'm finding the bars are too high on my trigger 4 - even after I've moved all the spacers up, flipped the stem and using a flat bar.
All thats left is the headset 'cone' which is probably a good 20mm. Would it be crazy to move that above the stem as well?
I assume these are bearings for them. They are £11/pair so affordable to change every 6 months or so.
[url= http://qwertycycles.co.uk/products/cannondale-replacement-headset-bearings-for-hd232-kp058 ]Qwerty Bearings[/url]
Thoughts? Alternatives?
All thats left is the headset 'cone' which is probably a good 20mm. Would it be crazy to move that above the stem as well?
You could always buy a smaller one. It is a good idea to try and keep the upper bearing sealed (some would argue not entirely necessary) and if you could Google Slam That Stem you'll find the very thinnest out there. Putting the 20mm conical spacer above the stem will be something I don't think any of us have ever seen before, so please post a pic if you go that route 😉 🙂
Where do I buy a smaller one from?????
The cone is specific to that headset as it helps seal. You could try a top cap from any 1.5" headset or ditch it all together and risk the bearings, just use a thin spacer to compress the split ring. Take a look at the top cap from a hope 1.5" headset as they should be available separately.
Qwerty Cycles should be able to help you out on a "specific" one, there's loads available on ebay from Chinese carbon ones to generic FSA etc and Slam That Stem will have the thinnest, albeit likely with reduced sealing. It doesn't bother me if Cannondale bearings are exposed (the lower is anyway) as they are fairly meaty and cheap/ easy to replace. Just pack them full of grease when new and they'll last well.
Question on the Lefty 'Lockout'.
I can feel a difference in that the damping feels much firmer when 'locked', but it is nothing like a full lockout.
Does that match other's experience? Or do you get a full lockout?
Thanks.
Not a full lockout, just much firmer.
OK, cool, thanks Eddie.
On that subject. Which button locks out and which unlocks? On mine it seems more plush with the rebound adjuster pushed down. Is that right?
Rebound adjuster pushed down= unlocked
Grand, ta!
Has anyone fitted a stealth dropper post to there cannondale trigger 4. Firstly is it compatible to have a stealth seat post and also what is the best value/ reliable for the money. Cheers in advance
Reverb Stealth fitted to my Trigger 4, the hose exits the the seat tube and enters the down tube below the lower shock mounting.
Any recommendations on pressures for the negative and positive chambers. I have been running at the recommended for settings for 80kg ,but seems very stiff .
Or this just a case of "time to bed in"
I think quite a few run at the setting below recommended for a slightly plusher ride.
Start by setting the reccommended negative and positve spring pressure and then add or subtract positive pressure until you get to 30-percent sag on the indicator. Next, add negative spring pressure until it sags to 35 percent. That is how the bike worked best for us. If you are bottoming out a lot, but you like the way the shock works, then add pressure evenly in both chambers until you only bottom once in a while each ride. Use Negative pressure to set ride height, similar to how you would normallly use low-speed compression.
What have you guys done to get round the fact there's a very limited amount of 1.5" stem types. Is there a simple and effective way to reduce to 1 1/8 which seems to be a much more common size cheers
I got lucky and found a 45mm/1.5" Thomson Elite X4 on ebay for £35.
This is a good reminder that I need to redo the stealth routing on mine, I didn't see the little hole under the shock so it goes external after exiting the seat tube. God knows how you make it come out of the hole by the headtube though.
Was at BPW on Friday, have done a few days there on hardtails and this Trigger 4 felt incredible in comparison. Still bog standard too bar the stem, dropper and Hans Dampfs.
Just a quick query on the trigger. I've set mine up with less sag than recommended (just under 30%) as I think if you're over 100kgs like me you'll blow through the travel way too easily, the recommended pressures for my weight give 35% sag but I'm using almost all the travel on even little drops and so on. I've done this by using the recommended + pressure but far less than recommended in the - side, based on this shock balancing each chamber to work as it should, will this approach damage the shock do you think?
It seemed to work fine on my ride today BTW.
What have you guys done to get round the fact there's a very limited amount of 1.5" stem types. Is there a simple and effective way to reduce to 1 1/8 which seems to be a much more common size cheers
Unless you have a shrink ray the only thing you can do is change the forks and headset to taper ones.
Jools I set mine up using the one step less pressure than recommended as I wasn't getting nearly through the travel. Still have plenty left over. Fork is also slightly softer. I kept both + and - as per the chart. I'd suggest you just keep moving up till you are happy, but with the same ratio. Pretty sure the +- need to be fairly balanced for the shock to perform as designed, though fine tuning one away from the other in small increments is probably fine. Also fairly sure that you won't need as much +ve pressure if you set the -ve higher too and the suspension will have the designed Spring curve.
Any thoughts on whether this chain guide should fit? I'm a little confused by the adapters required for differing BBs. Any thoughts?
[url= http://77designz.com/product/oval-guide-iscg-03-bsa ]chain guide[/url]
If it's like my 2015 Jekyll it will fit as its ICG03.
BTW my new LIght Bicycle Wheels arrived at the sort office on Friday and I got the letter today. They'll be in my hands tomorrow. Must order a Butcher and Slaughter. Weeeeee!
Making my first mod to the bike. Changing to 1 x 10. Hand forced by being a numpty and stripping the thread off the left hand crank when swapping pedals. Looked like the pedal was threading fine when it seemed to stick so used a bit of brute force and a few moments later it was knackered - thread on the pedal was fine though! Could've just replaced the crank but thought I may as well make the move.
Will convert the rest to 11 speed once I've got summer hols out of the way.
Thinking of selling my cannondale trigger 4. Small modification include two new tyres maxxis high roller 2s mudhugger race front mudguard one up component narrow wide chainring. In excellent condition. Has small amount of wear which can be expected. How much do you guys this I should realistically be asking for the bike? Cheers
Would anyone with a 27.5 large Trigger be able to do me a favour? Unhelpfully I fall between medium and large sizes, and Cannondale are inconsiderate in not making a medium-and-a-half frame.
I'm happy to go 'large' for the length, and with a 'normal' seatpost this would be fine. However, I'm concerned that a dropper post with all it's gubbins won't [i]quite[/i] go low enough for me.
Could somebody stick their post down as far as it will go, and with the dropper fully extended measure the saddle-rail-to-bottom-bracket-centre distance for me?
Thanks!
Well I've ordered the 77 designz oval guide...£42 for something tiny weighing 17g. Ooof. I must be a mug. Anyway, I'll update when it arrives. Am hoping it will fit. :-/
If it doesn't Ashy I'll buy it off you as it will fit my Jekyll.
Well according to the tracking its on its way to Sweden...not a good start. Eddiebaby, I'll get in touch if it doesn't fit.
Swainy90 what size is it mate ? Wouldn't be small would it ? Please ?
Hi slider unfortunately it's a medium aha sorry mate. I am
Only 5ft9 and feels perfect for me. Too big mate?
Quick one - how do you remove the front mech on a Trigger 4?
Just one allen key and break the chain?
There is a lot more going on down there than I'm used to on my ht.
I think It was 3 bolts, but yes it is easy and obvious. And I think my chain had a quicklink on it. Mine is a Jekyll not a Trigger but the same deal basically..
3 bolts? I can feel the anxiety building up already.
Ta
What have people done about their brakes when moving to a single chainring? The bracket is there for the trigger lever, which ideally I'd like to remove (will look better!). Is it possible to get this a replacement part?
Ive left it on had forgoten it was even there had to go and check to see if id done anything.
The rear shock has gone and sagged half way through its travel and gobbed oil out of the neg chamber today. Looks like its off to mojo come tuesday.
What have people done about their brakes when moving to a single chainring? The bracket is there for the trigger lever, which ideally I'd like to remove (will look better!). Is it possible to get this a replacement part?
I cut/filed/smoothed/primed/painted the bracket thingy off my Jekyll's Magura's when I went 1x.
Magura parts (if thats what are on yours) are far cheaper from the .DE places if you dont want the faff.
Is anyone able to shed some light on the bottom bracket replacement for the cannonade trigger 4? Press fits confuse me 🙁
Thanks, yes they're Magura. I could leave it on, although I've twisted the dropper remote round so would prefer the bracket gone to make sure there's no obstruction.
[url= http://www.tritoncycles.co.uk/components-c9/brakes-c56/magura-brake-lever-clamp-p14938/s43454?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=magura-brake-lever-clamp-ma0724488&utm_campaign=product%2Blisting%2Bads&gclid=CKfT67vy_cwCFU4o0wodvJsJ5Q ]Here we go, clamp for brake.[/url]
They are cheaper in Germany, but with delivery the difference is marginal.
Before I go the whole hog and move to 11 speed... Can a SRAM X9 med cage rear mech that came on the bike cope with 1x10 and a 42T largest sprocket (range 11-42)?
Flowerman, trigger 4 BB is BB30, you can either get a normal BB30 bottom bracket and use 24mm adaptors or get a conversion bottom bracket like a praxis works. I have a praxis works one and it has been faultless. This is all unless you want to up grade to BB30 cranks, you can just get a normal BB30 BB in that case.
