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[Closed] Campagnolo hub / shimano 9sp cassette?

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I've got an old Mercian tandem with 3 x 8 sp Campagnolo gears, hub & cassette - does anyone know if its possible to buy either a new Campagnolo 9sp* cassettes with at least 11-26t range that will fit or if not if I can swap the freehub for a Shimano fitting one instead.

The hub must be early 1980's, 40 hole, 140old Campag tandem jobbie

* I've got everything else I need to convert to 9sp shimano


 
Posted : 27/05/2019 7:05 pm
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You can get 9spd Veloce cassettes or 9 speed Miche cassettes. The spacing is different to 9 speed shimano though.


 
Posted : 27/05/2019 7:18 pm
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simon - thanks I'll give them a search - I read somewhere that the spacing is only slightly different, so should work with shimano floating jockey?


 
Posted : 27/05/2019 7:25 pm
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The campag & miche cassettes are only 12t & above 🙁 but I've found another old STW thread with a pointer to Highpath Engineering who aren't far from me, I'll see what I can work out after giving them a visit.

https://highpath.co.uk/cycle-information-freehubs-and-cassettes/


 
Posted : 27/05/2019 7:40 pm
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I run a Shimano 9s cassette with campag 9s, works fine.

Aren't campag 8s cassettes a different spline to their 9s ones?

You'll not get any Shani freehub to fit a campag hub.


 
Posted : 27/05/2019 8:05 pm
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Aren’t campag 8s cassettes a different spline to their 9s ones?

By the looks of it they are, this is all hurting my brain 😞


 
Posted : 28/05/2019 10:52 am
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campag 9 speed cassettes are a different spline to their 8 speed ones, and a different spacing to a shimano one so it'll shift poorly with shimano mechs on a campag cassette


 
Posted : 28/05/2019 11:18 am
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Spline is definitely different. You used to be able to cobble together a 9 speed cassette to fit that pattern with a cassette from Marchisio, but seems they have gone pop ( http://clemenzo.com/en/marchisio).

I _think_ I've got a 9sp Marchisio cassette to fit that pattern knocking around if you fancy giving it a go, but pretty sure a couple of key sprockets are pretty worn.

As above, I've run a shimano hub/cassette in a campag 9 system and its been OK, may not be true the other way though! Personally I'd probably go looking for a shimano wheel!


 
Posted : 28/05/2019 11:25 am
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I think your option would be to have your wheel rebuilt with a Shimano compatible hub or get a spacer kit that allows you to respace your Campagnolo cassette to Shimano 9 speed but only run 8 gears. Highpath Engineering are the guys for spacers.


 
Posted : 28/05/2019 1:40 pm
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Ambrosia used to make champagne cassettes to fit shimano splines and shimano cassettes to fit champagne splines. Don’t know whether they still make 9 speed though.
Alternatively Jtek shiftmate lets campag work with shimano in a “mixed marriage”. It may also be possible to get cone of these to let you use 9 speed gear on 8 speed cassette. They have a big table on there website as to what will and won’t work.
Hope this help work a way through the confusion. Ol:-)


 
Posted : 28/05/2019 2:34 pm
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Thanks for the various pointers, normally I'd just go with a new rear wheel but being a tandem the hubs get pretty spendy for anything half decent, I think at the moment I've sourced some pauls thumbies to fit the original campag downtube shifters.


 
Posted : 28/05/2019 3:03 pm
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Update, the campag sprockets are all loose fit anyway, so there is nothing stopping me from just fitting narrower spacers between the sprockets to respace existing sprockets to shimano 9sp spacing 🙂 except that highpath aren't doing spacers at the moment 😕 but should be easy enough to find someone who can 👍


 
Posted : 06/06/2019 1:27 pm
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some sram cassettes are loose sprockets with a little bolt through. might be good to pinch spacers from?


 
Posted : 06/06/2019 2:23 pm
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Ask at your local bike shop - dead stuff like worn cassettes goes in the trash


 
Posted : 06/06/2019 8:57 pm

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