[Closed] Camino Ti as winter road bike?

Is this for next winter, have you seen the lead times.

Never had a road bike but use mine for a mix of road/forest

Yes. Next winter. Happy to wait (having waited 6 months for my Stanton HT frame, I’m getting good at being patient). I’m bored with long COVID so just shopping around. And want to be read to hit buy when it is an option.

How do you find the Ti ride offroad?

Yes,and yes to a Secan.
Used 42mm knobbly tyres over Christmas and had some good fun on the Secan.
January it's back to commuting.
The rim brake road bike is put away and the Secan is out.
Now full guards and 36mm Strada Bianca for the wet and rough roads.
I guess the titanium Camino would be just as good?
Thanks,
Max.

The ride position is quite relaxed compared to a proper road bike, it feels efficient enough but not really sporty. Al version here.

If your road miles are long hours cruising along you should be fine, it wouldn't be the bike I'd want on a Sunday club ride. But it definitely would be the bike for back lanes linked by lots of easy paths and tracks.

Ps, I think the Ti framesets will be available fairly soon. It's the drive trains causing the issues if you have donor parts to use.

Its fine for me off road, mostly chilled rides and bimbling along, main use is keep the miles up in-between MTB rides.

Still unsure about the stock flared bars, bit of a love/hate going on presently.

Mine (ti) is currently in this mode (strangely with the same tyres as Turnerfan) and is perfect. Deals with mud, grit and horse poo on road but easily heads onto BW or tow path if needed. Won’t set any land speed records but I flip the stem and put some Hunt aero wheels on in the Summer and keep up with the carbon race bike crew.
I love mine and only changed the very flared bars which were aggravating an old wrist injury

Thanks lookmum and piemonster. That sounds ok. I see winter road miles as a way to keep fit whilst the trails are just too manky. We have a typical 40 mile loop that involves a bacon sandwich by a log burner half way (non COVID times of course) and the road back is narrow backlanes covered in outwash, farming muck etc. This sounds like it’s going to be fine for this, and not too much of a compromise on the way out. I certainly don’t need anything for a club run.

For now I’d just move all my old cx stuff (recent generation Ultegra) over. Some point I’d like to update my tank wheels.

Gravel adventure bikes make great winter road bikes. The extra weight and slacker geometry makes it feel a little slower than an out and out road bike but in the winter who cares, no-one is ragging around full gas anyway.

I have the Ti Camino and i prefer it to my carbon road bike for zipping around country lanes in winter when there is so much crap on the roads.

Its really comfy and relaxed so great for long distances but not out and out racing (but who does that on their own?)

The ride position is quite relaxed compared to a proper road bike, it feels efficient enough but not really sporty. Al version here.

Exactly this ^^^

I don't race / do club rides and I'm by no means an authority on road (/gravel) bike geometry but my Camino Al is noticeably very relaxed geometry compared to my road bike (Giant Defy so even that isn't really race spec). By 'relaxed', I mean the slack head angle and long top tube (Probably some chainstay differences as well - I haven't really paid too much attention). On the other hand, the front isn't particularly high so you can get out of the wind easy enough and with the right wheels / tyres it feels plenty fast enough to me.

I really enjoy riding it on the road actually and I don't really see the geometry as a negative at all, but it definitely feels like a different style of bike so perhaps hardened roadies might feel differently.

I got my medium AL a couple of weeks ago and have been hacking around the hills of Rossendale.

It is more relaxed than my old Ribble 7005 which suits me fine.

I went for the rival 1 1x11 and swapped out the 40t front ring for a 38t

The handling is planted and I can go on my regular mtb trails and on the road without even thinking about it.

Having seen the Ti close up when I socially distanced met some riders out this weekend it’s a beaut.

Below is mine on my ride yesterday.

Happy Trails.

Thanks all. You’ve settled my mind. I’m coming from a far more cx bike (stack is 5 cm lower than the Camino!) - so it will definitely be better off-road but sounds for my type of winter road riding - just messing about on local lanes etc - it’s not going to be a real drag either.

Now to keep an eye out on the in-stock emails!

Have a mk1 al had it set up with mudguards and 32mm tyres and didn't look like maxxed out ...also ran with 40mm knobbies and a fun versatile bike...hoping to get a ti when they are available as a frameset

Now to keep an eye out on the in-stock emails!

Email them, they were able to tell me when ordering was going live for my Al Camino.

Thanks. Have dropped them an email as framesets say all of buy it now/pre order/not available.

Gravel adventure bikes make great winter road bikes. The extra weight and slacker geometry makes it feel a little slower than an out and out road bike but in the winter who cares, no-one is ragging around full gas anyway.

+1

You've carrying round a load of extra weight in mudguards, lights and winter clothing, so it doesn't really matter. Plus you'll spend half the time battling into bloody head winds all winter, where the only strava PRs you're never going to set are for the slowest time...

I got out my summer bike on Saturday, for the first time since autumn, that was a shock to the system - all low and twitchy. Had got completed used to my gravel bike over winter as being normal.

Just in case anyone else wants to know, email back from Sonder:

The preliminary date we have for these frames arriving is 15/03 however the forks are not due until late April.

Thanks for the update on the expected delivery ahsat, I'm thinking about one as well.
Anyone know just how bad the Tekro mechanical disc brakes are? Reviews don't look good, but I'm thinking on a frame I'm going to keep for a long time, I could update some time in the future.

@ashat - did you get a Ti Camino or a Secan?

@ElShalimo - sorry I missed this as my username tag was slightly wrong, but p20 flagged it to me the other day and realised I forgot to reply.

Answer: neither. I ended up with a Niner RLT 9 Steel. Lol! I am a nightmare for deciding I need something just that bit different. Have a rolling chassis at the moment as I’m waiting on new brake callipers before I strip everything off my Rose. We are both really impressed with the frameset.

@ahsat - thanks. That's a really nice bike. Looking forward to seeing some photos once built !

I was interested as I've been looking at the Secans recently as an upgrade to my v1 Camino AL.

A roadie work colleague has got a Secan and has ridden all over Wharfedale etc with it during lockdown and really likes it. @p20 has a ~6 month lead time on his order, to arrive in August. They do look really nice, but a long time before we can give you a ride review.