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I looked at the Oxford Chain that's Sold Secure but I'm guessing that's far too heavy to carry on a ride ? What else without spending 3 figures?
The hiplock is fairly meaty, and when attached round your waist you forget all about it in a few minutes.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B016186GG6
According to the answers I have to the questions on the Hiplock site the Bronze version fits the bill .
My cafe lock is a simple Hiploc thing
https://hiplok.com/product/zlokcombo1/
And just stop at cafes where the bikes are in sight, although today's stop they were round the back of the cafe and we couldn't see them.
I've seen vids on YT(yes, that evil you tube again, hope this example doesnt offend desperatebicycle) showing the hiplock being cut through with a simple pair of cable cutters. So on that example I'd look more towards some solid bar type, usual D lock, or one of the folding ones.
Obviously all can be cut through with a cordless angle grinder, and we've seen too often the public is unwilling to step in even in such a blatant attack,for risk of themselves being assaulted. So its really just a case of can you see your bike when inside the cafe. In which case Hiplock would probably be sufficient.
Its a neat idea, just some vids kind of put you off and make you look towards heavier and unfortunately more expensive types.
the hiplock being cut through with a simple pair of cable cutters
Pretty sure it could be, but it's just intended (be me) to stop an opportunist hoping on my bike and riding off.
You could carry hydraulic bolt croppers and silently crop pretty much any lock....
Gone with the Hiplock Bronze , joined Halfrauds motoring club ? 🤔 Got another fiver off 👍 just a penny short of £30 👍 Should be better than the Jobs worth one I bought for 99p on Planet X ! 😁
I just use something like this...
https://www.absolute-snow.co.uk/V/Dakine_Cool_SnowboardSki_Cable_Security_Lock_Green-(227956)
No way am I carrying anything bulkier than that on a bicycle ride.
The hiplock I was referring to was a belt type. Not seeing it on images but its this one.(Below)
There are other hiploks, so I dont know which one you are referring to. If its the chain type, then that would certainly be more robust.
To be fair, that hipock was attacked with a very high quality set of croppers.
It's not a Hiplok, it's a Litelok. They're different companies.
Hiplok do quite a nice small d-lock which I occasionally carry if I've got my big backpack. If it's a road ride, I only stop at cafes where I can park the bike out of sight of the road and in sight of me.
Edit: This one https://hiplok.com/product/hiplok-dx/
Worth paying attention to what you're actually locking it to - I never noticed this pole was only 4' high!
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To be fair, that hipock was attacked with a very high quality set of croppers.
It was also pinned to the ground, I wish he had shown a cut where he could only use his hands to cut the lock.
Simondbarnes that Dakine lock is exactly the same as the Jobsworth one I got for 99p off Planet X with a different logo on it ( sorry 🙄)
Just looked on PlanetX they are £7.99 now , no longer on offer .
I had a medium weight armoured cable lock which I can twist into a figure of 8 and jam between the saddle & seatpost behind the seat pack. Still easily chopped with the right tools but sturdier than the "posh" ziptie. Unfortunately the wife lost both keys when she borrowed it & I've no idea what make / model it was so need to find a replacement.
Obviously the big chains are better but I prefer if everyone carries their own lightweight one and all bikes are locked in a mess to each other.
Worth paying attention to what you’re actually locking it to – I never noticed this pole was only 4′ high!
That is how David Cameron once had his bike nicked - he locked it to a post and the thief simply lifted it off.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/may/06/david-cameron-bike-stolen
He was ridiculed when a newspaper published a photograph showing that he had chained it to a concrete bollard, making it easy for the thief to carry away.
Simondbarnes that Dakine lock is exactly the same as the Jobsworth one I got for 99p off Planet X with a different logo on it ( sorry 🙄)
ive got one of them, different logo again, some company was giving them away free on facebook! More designed for handbag and table locking than bike to pole!
My bike has survived 8 years of being locked up in various places around London with a TiGr lock. It’s got several scars on it from bolt cutters, but nobody has got through it yet. Weighs nothing, will take up a bottle mount, but can also be mounted on the back of a saddle. Not cheap though.
I’m not a fan of hiplocks a friend of mine crashed his bike whilst riding with a chain round his waist and chipped his pelvis because of it.
It’s not a Hiplok, it’s a Litelok. They’re different companies.
Sorry, my mistook. 🙂
I appear not to be able to post about my experience today with a Z lok it's totally rubbish and successfully left me stranded today with my lock attached to my bike strapped to railings. So what happened? Well it decided it didn't want to stick to the combination I set and wanted to have it's own.
Managed to defeat the pile of monumental c..p with a penknife.
JeZ
Simondbarnes that Dakine lock is exactly the same as the Jobsworth one I got for 99p off Planet X with a different logo on it ( sorry 🙄)
I haven't got that actual one but I've used something similar outside shops / cafes / pubs for the last 30 years or so.
I use a small motorcycle cable helmet lock. Some of the locks in this thread are complete overkill, and an utter pain to carry on a ride. There’s a great difference between a lock needed for a couple of minutes whilst you grab a coffee and your bike remains in full view, to a lock needed for a bike that’s out of sight and left all day. When I’m out on a ride, I simply don’t stop anywhere long enough, or out of sight of my bike to need the latter.
The other thing I do, is drop the chain off and put the gears in small/small. At least if someone does try and grab it, they’re not going to ride off on it easily. My Dad’s trick on his pub/gym bike is to use canti brakes, and disconnect the straddle wire.
I use an OnGuard Terrier cable lock (on the right on the link, a Combo 4 or 7 if you click through).
It's thin, light and very easy to carry in a pocket or saddle bag, but definitely a step up from the plastic-case style ones mentioned above. I have no doubt it would last very very little time against pretty much any sort of tools, but it would certainly need tools to get through it. So I consider it very much only a deterrent to a casual thief - cafe with in sight, or popping into a shop for a drink/snack. I have also used it as a front wheel/extra lock along side a D lock for longer term/dodgier areas.
@bensales you're deluded if you think a well practiced thief couldn't have that off and be on their way in as much time as it takes to basically grab the bike.
Hiplok Lite (bronze) is comfortable to wear. If your insurance demands a Gold level lock I've just undertaken a load of research and the lightest I could find was the Hiplok DX. Have taken it on two rides so far, one in a rucksack and one clipped to my hip pack. On both occasions I quickly stopped noticing I had it. In terms of weight it's not much more than the Bronze level chain.
I had the Hiplok Gold but it's just too heavy to realistically ride with - I note that Hiplok have changed the marketing now to pitch it more as a lock to use at home or to leave in a regular location.
A decent padlock thru the chainring will stop someone riding off on your bike and have resistance to basic tools if not a bolt cropper. Personally I would not use a hiplock - too dangerous if you crash
@bensales you’re deluded if you think a well practiced thief couldn’t have that off and be on their way in as much time as it takes to basically grab the bike
Did you miss where I wrote “and the bike remains in full view”.
I subscribe to the theory of “if you don’t want a bike to get nicked, you don’t leave it anywhere out of your sight”. It’s worked for 45 years.
1960s central Cambridge, not a bike lock in sight!
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Can be in as good a view as you like, if you can't immediately lay hands on it you may as well leave it unlocked.
Or do you have special tri-disco slippers that double as running shoes? I can barely walk on some surfaces let alone run with any great confidence in mine.
Doesn’t it sort of depend on where your cafe is and what the local density of evil scrotes is? Outside a hipster cafe in Shoreditch I’d imagine a bike being reduced to nuts and bolts in minutes whereas outside the WI cake stand in St Mary Mead village hall probably you’re ok with a lightweight lock.