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[Closed] CAAD10 disc frameset self build v CAAD12 105

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Torn between building up the CAAD10 with a mix of 5800 105 & Ultegra hydraulics or waiting until end of year for the CAAD12s 105 to get discounted -

I reckon I should be able to build the 10 up for less with a better set of wheels & the Ultegra brakes

But offset that against BB30a & (although may use adaptor) and generally a "lighter" / "better" (???) frameset in the CAAD12

Would I really notice the difference in the frames or would the better wheels make up for any differences

Opinions / thoughts welcome please

 
Posted : 19/02/2016 3:02 pm
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Registering interest in this as I've been in the same quandary.

I've specced up a few CAAD10 disc builds based on the Evans frame and forks price and on nearly every occasion have come within maybe £200 of a CAAD12 - that was with cable discs & Ultegra IIRC

I appreciate £200 is £200 but I understand the CAAD12 is an even better frame and fork package than the CAAD10.

For me I don't have the money to shell out for a CAAD12 straight away but could quite easily build up a CAAD10 by summer.

I know I could wait until summer and buy a CAAD12 but thats a moot point 😉

The CAAD10 looks great in black to.

As as I say .... registering interest!

 
Posted : 19/02/2016 3:21 pm
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What's the weight saving, 200gm odd? That's numerically a LOT. CAAD10 is an excellent frame bit your CAAD10 build may be as light with better wheels.

I'd prob decide based on whether you CBA waiting.

 
Posted : 19/02/2016 3:34 pm
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Weight wouldn't be my primary consideration but I think the 200gm C/dale talk about is based on their integrated system ie the seatpost, collar, headset & hi-mod fork but would only apply to the Dura ace build and above - think the rest have a standard mod fork so weight saving closer to 120g

Wheels I was considering were the Hunt Masons so probably 200g less than the Maddux ones

Add to that the Ultegra v 105 hydraulics and I think the weight of the CAAD10 all in would come in less than the CAAD12 105

@mark - I already have most of the bits and pieces, so outlays for me are the frame & the wheels at £719 plus BB @ £49 if I want to fit this -

http://www.fatbirds.co.uk/1750232/products/wheels-manufacturing-pressfit-30-to-outboard-bottom-bracket---shimano.aspx?origin=pla&kwd=&currency=GBP&gclid=Cj0KEQiAl5u2BRC6yszC1_75v5wBEiQAD-hdz0GJ_CmrTN5YfLUjfzOrmSbzDRkPg3Ne6uVBW4KpNqwaApsF8P8HAQ

(have a Praxis but it won't fit the CAAD10 internally)

So really, just curious if the 10 would be that much of worse / better / same-ish v the 12

and Al, exactly - could I be arsed waiting

 
Posted : 19/02/2016 3:46 pm
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CAAD10 is awesome (I've raced and owned a few).

The CAAD12 is slightly more lush.

I would buy the 105 12' and then upgrade as you get fitter.

Isn't the current 105 really quite close to Ultegra this time?

If you're race fit, then a race ready 10' would be fine too.

Do it, do it now!

 
Posted : 19/02/2016 4:01 pm
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lol - can't do it NOW as the 12s won't be coming down in price until at least September...and then prob from £1500 to £1200 ish ?

Agree about the CAAD10 being a great frame - I had one built up with 105 and it was great - was definitely a lot less p'precious' about it than the carbon bikes but I sold the frameset, so have the bits left over and just fancied a disc 'race' geo bike for a change

By slightly more lush, what do you mean - a bit comfier or just a bit blingier ?

 
Posted : 19/02/2016 4:17 pm
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Might be worth getting a Jan issue of Cyclist as they reviewed the Caad12 disc in there (albeit the more expensive one).

In summary they said that its very good, but if you have a CAAD10 then they wouldn't bother upgrading

 
Posted : 19/02/2016 5:35 pm
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Cheers - will check that out

 
Posted : 19/02/2016 7:52 pm
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I had a test ride on the 12, and it was slightly softer on the rear. Was strange using discs too.

There should be a few dealers who will let you test ride after leaving a deposit.

Evans cycles is selling the disc '10 frame for around £370 +-£5. Includes the fork.

You could transfer your running gear over?

I've bought bikes in Dec after waiting for a £500 price drop. You can get some bargains if you're very patient.

 
Posted : 20/02/2016 9:15 am
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My time on a CAAD10 was so good (as good as my Roubaix and barely different from my Supersix) I doubt you'd regret buynig one.

 
Posted : 20/02/2016 7:04 pm
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Surely you could build a CAAD 10 for way more than £200 less than a CAAD12??!!

 
Posted : 20/02/2016 8:25 pm
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More than likely - but, as Cannondale like to reduce everything in September, we're looking at the CAAD12 105 coming down in price to around the 1200 mark ?

CAAD10 frame, wheels, & Ultegra hydraulics would be about 1K - so just add rest of groupset & reasonably good finishing kit say 300 - 350 ? (although could be done way cheaper 2nd hand) - leaves a total 1300 to 1350 for Ultegra standard ?

The Ultegra CAAD12 is currently £2k - discount in Sept say £400 - so an extra £250 to £300 over the CAAD10 ?

so really looks like it comes down to Al's question - is it worth the waiting to save 250 - 300 quid ?

 
Posted : 21/02/2016 3:08 pm
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Spot the problem with Cannondale - I love their bikes but they always seem to to over supply/stock and get hefty reductions, so who buys at rrp? Look at Paul's Cycles still selling 2013 stuff, their 2015 Supersix Ultegra reduced from 2000 to 1300 etc. I even managed to get a reduced SuperX last year when everybody else was selling out of CX bikes.

 
Posted : 21/02/2016 3:54 pm
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For me I wouldn't spunk the 250 for 150gm, the CAAD10 is already such a good frame.

 
Posted : 21/02/2016 4:01 pm
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and taking into consideration that the CAAD10 frameset looks so much better than any of the 12 variations, seems like an obvious decision - think that's my mind made up anyway

thanks for the input !

 
Posted : 21/02/2016 4:17 pm
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The caad 12 disc frame was designed specifically for use with disc and has different features to the rim braked caad 12. Whereas I read somewhere that the caad 10 disc is the normal caad 10 with disc tabs added. I looked into this earlier in year and I found cannondale versand in Germany to be very reasonable for the caad 12, def worth sending them an email

 
Posted : 03/03/2016 10:50 pm