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Hi all - finding myself really enjoying the road miles currently so I'd like to to build a proper road bike.
I can repurpose a lot of my gravel bike (and i always like to custom build) so any ideas for a cheap frameset?

I really want to be able to run big tyres (28, 30mm?) and it must be disc brake. I love steel bikes but presume cheap steel is gonna be weighty, in which case I may aswell just keep my gravel bike.

Other option is one of these and swap my 11speed hydraulic 105 stuff over? Is it a bit weighty though?

https://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/bike/equilibrium-disc-10

 
Posted : 26/04/2020 12:27 pm
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This being the obvious place to look:
https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FTPXPCEVOD/planet-x-pro-carbon-evo-disc-frameset

Anyone know if it will take 30mm tyres? Is that a bit big? (my 42c gravel tyres are the skinniest ive ever owned!).

 
Posted : 26/04/2020 12:36 pm
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@eddiebaby bought one of these recently and might by able to shed some light on max tyre size, but at ~408mm chain stay length, I'd be surprised if a true 30mm tyre would fit (my Cube has 415mm stays and could just about squeeze a true 32mm in, an oversize 28mm GP4000S II fits fine).

 
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If you're only going down to 30mm, I'd just get some nice wheels for your gravel bike unless it's a tank? Is it more along the lines of a cross bike with a smattering more tyre clearance, or a slacked out mostercross? If the former, just get some lighter wheels or 32mm tyres on your exiting ones.

Speed difference is only about 5% between by road bike and my cross bike, although they feel very different, to the extent that there's at least one set of corners on a regular route I can fly round on the road bike (it's a downhill strava segment) , but the cross bike is significantly off the pace, it's just lazier tipping it into turns. And I don't tend to take the cross bike on long road rides, so that 5% is working hard to keep up with the road bike, the gap would widen if I tried to do a century on it.

I've got (measured) 27mm tyres on my road bike and there's 'clearance' between the tyre and the front mech band. I don't think any sporty bike is going to take a 30mm tyre, you'll have to look at something a bit more relaxed, something from the sportive or 'all-road' (other marketing terms are available to cover those bikes which aren't quite gravel bikes but can probably handle the odd sustrans path) end of things.

 
Posted : 26/04/2020 1:17 pm
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If you can stretch the budget, a friend has one of the PX titanium frames built up. It is a thing of beauty.

 
Posted : 26/04/2020 4:36 pm
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I don’t think any sporty bike is going to take a 30mm tyre

A Specialized Tarmac SL6 disc frame will easily take a measured 32mm tyre on a 22mm internal rim. Not exactly budget though.

 
Posted : 26/04/2020 5:26 pm
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I've got a PX pro carbon evo and I really don't think it would take 30mm tyres. Reckon 28 would be a push. I'm running 25's at the moment and there's not that much room left.

I bought my son a pinnacle dolomite frame set from Evans for £175, alu frame and carbon forks, that will take 32's I think.

 
Posted : 26/04/2020 5:34 pm
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I reckon 25s are the safe max on 18mm internal rims. These are Schwalbe Pro Ones.

https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/max-tyre-size-for-planet-x-pro-carbon-evo-disc/

 
Posted : 26/04/2020 5:56 pm
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I have a caad12 disc frameset in my basement that I never got around to building up if 54cm fits you?

 
Posted : 26/04/2020 6:15 pm
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I have a caad12 disc frameset in my basement that I never got around to building up if 54cm fits you?

Have sent you a PM about this although your PM seems to be Joseph and not Continuity.  I'm not sure the CAAD12 has the tyre clearance that the op mentions.

Thanks

Chris

 
Posted : 26/04/2020 9:15 pm
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I'd checkout the Ribble Alloy endurance frames - I've got one for a winter bike and really rate it - you can get a 'raod' one that'll do 28s without mudguards, or I think they basically do the same kinda bike in a CX version that'll take a lot more tyre width.

 
Posted : 26/04/2020 10:46 pm
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What do you consider budget?

I was looking at disc road bikes recently and ended up with a complete new-old-stock Boardman.

But secondhand was also an option.

 
Posted : 26/04/2020 11:05 pm
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Whats the "gravel" bike?

Most have fractional differences from standard road geometry anyway unless its an evil ch.

Just swap the tyres for some slicks and slam the stem.

 
Posted : 27/04/2020 9:22 am
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I'd seriously consider wheels and tyres for your gravel bike unless it's some sort of fairly extreme gravel bike. I think you'd likely notice more difference in wheels and tyres than a road specific frame.

What's your current gravel bike?

 
Posted : 27/04/2020 9:37 am
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Most have fractional differences from standard road geometry anyway unless its an evil ch.

It varies, but there's lots of <71deg HA gravel bikes which is the point at which Id start to think of them as slack-er than a cross bike (and a lot slacker than a road bike).

Id ride my cross bike with big slicks on the road if it was my only bike, but its like comparing a sports car (lotus elise?) with a sporty car (mondeo st220?). Its quick, but not that quick.

 
Posted : 27/04/2020 9:54 am
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Well a cyclo cross bike will have a high BB too which will make you feel slower

Most "gravel" geo keeps the bb low like a road bike

yeah more modern gravel may have a slightly slacker ha, most don't still though

gravel will likely have longer stays like a touring bike, which will make a difference

road frame will be a little lighter and maybe flexier

 
Posted : 27/04/2020 12:05 pm