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[Closed] btcc driver jailed for killing cyclist

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http://www.****/news/article-2553969/Championship-racing-driver-jailed-crashing-killing-cyclist-phone-girlfriend.html Was not wearing helmet either but justice has been done...?


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 11:44 am
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Better than getting away scot free like most drivers who kill cyclists!


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 12:01 pm
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I think they only wear helmets when they're actually in a car race?

Oh wait, you were talking about the cyclist...


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 12:04 pm
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All that money and couldn't afford a Bluetooth headset. 🙄


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 12:05 pm
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What difference does helmet wearing make?


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 12:06 pm
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Not sure the Guffington Post is any better than the Daily Wail, but at least it isn't the Daily Wail.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/02/07/frankt-wrathall-jail_n_4745705.html


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 12:06 pm
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If he'd been a Glaswegian killing another car driver he'd have got twice that term.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-26081776

So (making reference to another thread) 2 cyclists = 1 driver?


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 8:25 pm
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If he'd been a Glaswegian killing another car driver he'd have got twice that term.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-26081776

So (making reference to another thread) 2 cyclists = 1 driver?


Except the Glaswegian was guilty of DANGEROUS and the BTCC Driver only of CARELESS, and the Glaswegian had previously been convicted of drink driving (and since only a few months before - was presumably disqualified at the time?). Not unreasonable that sentences are different in different circumstances; in general you need to be careful comparing north/south of the border too as there are subtle differences.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 8:37 pm
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So : driving one-handed, towing a trailer and chatting to your gf on the phone for 8 minutes isn't dangerous, only careless?

Edit- sorry, that's not a pop at you. I know you are just reporting the facts


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 8:48 pm
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Posted : 08/02/2014 8:49 pm
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No


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 8:54 pm
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So : driving one-handed, towing a trailer and chatting to your gf on the phone for 8 minutes isn't dangerous, only careless?

Edit- sorry, that's not a pop at you. I know you are just reporting the facts


It is not uncommon for a defence lawyer to "negotiate" a careless charge out of a dangerous one (whether death is involved or not). Its quite difficult to prove dangerous, and trying ties up huge resources and risks that you fail to get a conviction at all (Juries are unpredictable, witnesses can not appear or bugger up their evidence, defence solicitors can spin the 'this was just a tragic accident - it could happen to you' card, evidence may not be admissible on the day due to technicalities etc), so the prosecution can sometimes be convinced to take the lesser charge.

Without witnesses describing the manner of driving as being obviously dangerous* (as there were in the Glasgow case) I can see why CPS would not risk it. * i.e. if you couldn't see the driver was on his phone would his standard of driving have been remarkable?

However the judge can only sentence on the offence with the guilty - not on what could have been.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 9:12 pm
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My sis in laws best friend was murdered. The Daily Mail doorstepped and banged on her door for days for a comment then ran a made up story.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 9:17 pm

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