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[Closed] Brass Monkeys - Tunnel Hill this w/e. Little bit of advice please.

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Would like to do this but my usual hard tail is out of action
and I only have my old faithful rigid Klein Attitude to use. So was just wondering if the circuit will be too rough for 3 hours on a rigid. Anyone know what the conditions are likely to be?


 
Posted : 20/01/2014 8:57 pm
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I'd give it a go, I don't know the route they'll be using but I can't think of anything rough enough to cause you major discomfort


 
Posted : 20/01/2014 9:53 pm
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Undulating pine forest mainly, very little truly rough. Versus not riding - do it.


 
Posted : 20/01/2014 10:13 pm
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I survived 4 hours on a rigid SS last year. JFDI.


 
Posted : 20/01/2014 10:34 pm
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Jobsagoodun then. Thanks chaps!


 
Posted : 20/01/2014 11:17 pm
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Mostly singletrack in the forests with soft but rooty conditions. Some fireroads but nothing too rough.

Was there on Sunday and most of the trails are holding up after all the rain.


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 8:24 am
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I was up there last night. Trails are starting to dry out so (with no more rain) it should be really good. As for rigid - you will be fine although there are quite a lot of roots so a larger front tyre might be good.

Looking forward to the race.


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 9:46 am
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Only managed to get to round 1 of this series and will miss this Sunday's too. 🙁

But if I was going, I'd be doing the 4hr on a rigid. Its fine for the gorrick's areas imo, especially in the winter.

Doesn't slow Al Fairbairn either!
Have a good race.


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 10:15 am
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I used to ride most of the Gorricks on a rigid SS - you'll be fine 🙂

Cheers, Rich


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 10:18 am
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I'll be there on my rigid fatbike. 4hrs no problem!

GB


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 10:18 am
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Not having done one of these before, is there anywhere you can leave bottles and a bit of food to pick up when needed during the event?


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 12:38 pm
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Yup - normally just before or after the finish line you will find lots of bottle/food stashes.


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 12:51 pm
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I'll be there on my rigid fatbike. 4hrs no problem!

You're kidding!? Have you already got the series wrapped up then?


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 12:53 pm
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How rooty in comparison to the other 3 rounds?


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 1:39 pm
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Seriously!? There will be 23 more roots than R1, but 49 less than R3.

It'll be broadly similar.


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 2:13 pm
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How rooty in comparison to the other 3 rounds?

Similar to Porridgepot and Frith Hill rounds as far as rootiness goes.


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 4:19 pm
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It won't be any more rooty than Ash, Caesars or Minley where the previous rounds actually were.


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 5:06 pm
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Seriously!? There will be 23 more roots than R1, but 49 less than R3

Thanks but I think you've got that the wrong way round :D. FWIW I've got a bad back but took my HT to R3 as I couldn't face the bushing attrition etc in the conditions. I came away surprised how well my back held up and at the extra pedalling efficiency but the course seemed a lot less bumpy/technical than the others. As I've not ridden at Tunnel Hill I thought I'd ask.


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 8:05 pm
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Well I need to finish 15th or better to win overall. Last round I was about an hour ahead of 15th, so should be ok... Hopefully it will be some great advertising for Salsa!

Although it would be quite funny if I failed to win overall after taking the piss and riding a fat bike.

GB


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 8:35 pm
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Pictures on the Facebook page look promising...


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 8:37 pm
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Big fat rain sodden low pressure come over on Sunday. :0(


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 8:39 pm
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Never done one before but looking forward to it 🙂


 
Posted : 21/01/2014 9:52 pm
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Is getting to the venue early enough to get a practice lap in worth the effort (if its allowed?) or do most not bother?


 
Posted : 22/01/2014 5:20 pm
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I wouldn't - its a long race and not that technical.

edit - this may explain my tendency to first lap crashes though....


 
Posted : 22/01/2014 5:24 pm
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Uh oh!!!

What flippers for BM?!


 
Posted : 24/01/2014 7:42 pm
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I rode a lap this evening before it started to rain.

Honestly - there was one damp and slippy bit of fire road, about 100m. The rest was bone dry, not even a puddle.

GB


 
Posted : 24/01/2014 7:48 pm
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6.8mm of rain planned from 12-1300...

Pants.

DrP


 
Posted : 24/01/2014 7:59 pm
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How many spare brake pads do you reckon?


 
Posted : 24/01/2014 8:20 pm
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I'm going to take just one extra pad....

DrP


 
Posted : 24/01/2014 8:28 pm
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Hmmm single track looks narrower with some ditch sections. Add rain and 1000 wheels and it might be pretty slippy late on? How sandy is it - same as Swinley?


 
Posted : 24/01/2014 10:10 pm
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Walked the dog there this am. Looks like some nice sections based on what appears to have been blown clear, plus a few old favourites. Pretty dry considering, of course there's a lot of standing water on fire roads and in some of the hollows, but not much what I'd call real mud. Although with the forecast for tomorrow, that could well change. Although that said, if it's that wet it could easily go through muddy straight to soaking which will eat brake pads with the sand, but doesn't stick to bikes like real mud.

Will be riding over to watch and heckle, have fun.


 
Posted : 25/01/2014 11:22 am
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Rode a couple of laps again today. Even after the rain last night it's still pretty much dry the whole way round. Bit splashy on the fire roads and a couple of puddles but 99% firm and dry. It's a great fun lap - seemed quite hilly and takes in lots of great trails.

All of this is irrelevant though as it's going to piss down all day tomorrow and be utterly soul destroying and miserable. Will all be rideable though. Just bring waterproofs and brake pads.

GB


 
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There are some serious bogs and lakes up there at the moment, but just in certain spots. I'm guessing the route they'll have cleared will be fine. They're usually very good at sorting a good route.


 
Posted : 25/01/2014 5:28 pm
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Do you guys seriously eat a set of pads mid race?
I've done 3000 miles including four Gorricks and a load of other events on my SLX ones and they're still only 3/4 worn.

I have some in my tool pouch but really???


 
Posted : 25/01/2014 6:44 pm
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The weather has turned nasty here now. Very strong wind and rain. Trains out of London really screwed - trees on the line. Be prepared!


 
Posted : 25/01/2014 6:46 pm
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I'm very last century and still have rim brakes, so don't fancy my chances of finishing the 3 hour old gits race even with a spare set of pads. But what the hell.
It's the forecast winds that concern me a bit more, very strong mid race.


 
Posted : 25/01/2014 7:04 pm
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Eat pads mid race? Hell yeah! Usually prefer energy bars though.

Seriously - yes I've worn out brand new pads in less than 2hra before. As long as I still have one working brake I won't stop and put new ones in though. After the last round the rears were about half way through the backing plate and the fronts were wafer thin.

GB


 
Posted : 25/01/2014 7:51 pm
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Thanks Gee. I guess I don't go fast enough or brake hard enough 😀


 
Posted : 25/01/2014 7:54 pm
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Rode some of the course this afternoon. Nice and dry. Then the hailstorm from hell hit on the way home. Probably a bit more squelchy now. Definitely more so by tomorrow.

Tunnel is kind on brakes by the way. Not like Swinley.


 
Posted : 25/01/2014 8:43 pm
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Jeez that hurt! Hope the lady who hirt herself on one of the descents is ok. My apologies for stalling in front of Gee as he was lapping me in what looled to be 2nd.


 
Posted : 26/01/2014 4:56 pm
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Well that was epic!

The rain started pretty much as soon as the gun went and continued until the prize presentation. Got to love it when it does that. The course remained really good throughout - some hard sections but it all held up really well given the awful weather in the lead up to the event and on the day. The rain wasn't as bad as forecast but it was continuous and heavy at times. Knowing I only needed to finish 15th to win the series, I decided to go with the Salsa Beargrease fat bike in an attempt to make the race a little more enjoyable. It worked! The bike was amazing on the downs and I got a bit of a lead off the start. I rode 3 laps with Big Al (Singular) but the cold got the better of him and he stopped to put on a rain jacket and 'have words with himself'. Scary stuff. I rode one more lap in the lead on my own but then the toll of riding a 28lb fat bike in an XC race started to make me slower on the uphills. I got passed by Scott Chappell who went on to win. I rolled round the last 2 laps and came in second. Absolutely loved the fat bike on the muddy trails - it's just got so much grip! The tyres just smash though everything.

Nice to get the series win too 🙂

GB


 
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I woke up to p*ssing rain, so decided to put my XC racing debute on hold until next months Gorrick instead.


 
Posted : 26/01/2014 5:15 pm
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Nice work GB.How far ahead of 15th?


 
Posted : 26/01/2014 5:56 pm
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Finished 2nd, 2 mins behind the winner and about 45 mins ahead of where I had to finish.


 
Posted : 26/01/2014 6:46 pm
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Sounds like you need a mega obese bike next season,maybe a trike?


 
Posted : 26/01/2014 7:06 pm
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Well the hell of my 5th lap was rewarded with 17th place in vets (good for me!) as just under half the field gave up at the end of lap 4! So a Soul and full mud tyres can work as an XC bike!


 
Posted : 26/01/2014 7:09 pm
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Brilliant Gee, well done you 🙂

I did one lap in the 2hours then succumbed to the thought of a warm car and change of clothes and jacked in!

Really enjoyed the course though, some of those downs were proper sketchy fun!

It was my first taste of enduro and I enjoyed the format- a lot more company than a normal Gorrick where I seem to end up in a mid-field gap all by myself for 3/4 of the race.


 
Posted : 26/01/2014 7:47 pm
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How far ahead of 15th?

Well, i got 15th and he lapped me in the wood singletrack about 15 mins from the finish.

I'd say there wasn't much risk at that point....!

Good fun course today, maybe held up better than the last round despite the continuous rain, enjoyed it.


 
Posted : 26/01/2014 7:54 pm
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Was a good final race to the series - my fitness and abiity to ward off the cramp has improved as the races have gone on!
Had my best result yet (7th...) with 6 laps - almost packed in after 5 as came in a 3.52, but headed out for more punishment!
I was on the SS scandal with the small orange bobble hat on the stem!

DrP


 
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We'll done gee

Well done all of you. Looked pretty crap out there and walking the dogs everywhere nearby seemed pretty wet this morning. Hats off for the commitment to the cause. Must try them next year.


 
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Well done Dr P, was me you were chatting with for much of laps 4 and 5. That bunnyhop over the fallen tree was a fine effort 🙂

Managed to grind my way onto the podium in the end, and for the series too, delighted with that as I usually flounder in a mudbath!

Roll on the Spring Series!


 
Posted : 26/01/2014 10:12 pm
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My first attempt at an enduro, did the +50s, and just doing the cross for many years doesn't prepare you for such a tough event! I was a bit disappointed but some grumpyness but I suppose after a lap or two it descended into drudgery for some so can be forgiven I suppose.

Silliest thing was when me and a couple of my fellow 'cross mates were left standing at the start after the officials gave us no time to take our league's transponders off, saying they would interfere with there system. Given that they were fixed on with zip ties it made it pretty frantic, but they started the race anyway. I was last off with no one in sight after struggling to get wet gloves back on. Still, it was good fun picking riders off until a terminal mechanical put me out anyway.


 
Posted : 27/01/2014 12:52 pm
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offthebrakes - bravo for podiuming...(?sp!)
Was nice to have some similarly paced company and chat for much of the race!
#bromance

DrP


 
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Haha yes, always good to have a chat on the way round to distract from the pain and misery 🙂


 
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