[Closed] Bottle cages are officially cool again

I've 2 of those Elite cages on my HT. Does that me twice as cool as Sam or do I get extra credit for one less bouncy end on the bike?

gonna be tricky to get a bottle in there...

Wouldn't catch me with one on my bike

[quote=BillOddie said]gonna be tricky to get a bottle in there...

It's all about the side entry 😉

Wouldn't catch me with one on my bike

You'd have a job catching Sam Hill TBH.

Never stopped using them, much prefer being without a backpack.

Followed a guy in a mass star race, 50km about 32c,he had one bottle and was riding badly. His bottle rattles loose and falls off, me being nice tell him he's lost his bottle.
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**** off mate.

I think most people are so used to a huge camelbak they automatically put it on for every ride. For 2/3 hour rides I use a bottle in a cage and the rest of my kit in a back pocket, with the pump on the supplied mount under the bottle cage. Ok it can get a bit dirty but the freedom of not having a massive weight on my back is easily worth it, especially in summer!

That's why I got a light weight 1.5l camelback back, only my poncy Road jerseys have pockets

Always have had one. Sure, for long days out its Camelbak every time and in winter too, for carrying an extra layer and a bit o grub etc.
But summer evening couple of hour rides, pump, tube and multi tool in jersey pocket, bottle in cage and off for a hoon round the woods.

Only tend to use a camelback for seriously long rides now and then, only if it looks as if the weather could change for the worse.

Haven't used one for 'regular' rides for a few years now. Best thing I ever did.

The temptation was to stuff whichever bag I had with more and more kit (because I could) and then persuade myself that I needed more and so the bags got bigger and bigger until it became a little silly. If you have limited capacity, you tend to only take what you need/what you can feasibly cram into your pockets.

Oh and Sam is a bit of a bogan...

I hate getting a sweaty back, especially on winter rides so a bottle has replaced my camelbak on my local twenty miler loop. I'm forty, way to old to be rad these days.

Followed a guy in a mass star race, 50km about 32c,he had one bottle and was riding badly. His bottle rattles loose and falls off, me being nice tell him he's lost his bottle.
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**** off mate.

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[quote=slowjo ]The temptation was to stuff whichever bag I had with more and more kit (because I could) and then persuade myself that I needed more and so the bags got bigger and bigger until it became a little silly.

But you don't have to do that just because you're carrying a hydration system on your back. I have a bottle cage on my bike, but tend to take a 1.5 litre hydration pack rather than a bottle because I find it easier to drink from and so end up drinking more. The hydration pack has a tiny pocket, just big enough to take a CO2 inflator and my keys, a mini-pump fits inside with the bladder. Mini-tool and tubes in a small seatpack, anything else in the pockets of my top. Then again, that's also pretty much all I'll carry for a 5 hour event, and I'll carry less for a 24 hour event than most on a 2 hour pootle - I've never worked out the need to carry the kitchen sink around.

Pretty much the whole reason I chose a MegaTR over all the other possible ENDURO frames out there.

I've just gone back to a bottle and cage, and have an Alpkit Fuel Pod coming to put my pump, multitool, phone and keys in.

I guess you missed the joke/punchline there bill

Well, I though it was funny Mike. HTH

Always like the "I overfill my bag therefore bags suck" thing. My bag only contains things I put in it.

I've got a few mates who insist that wearing bags is daft and use pockets, water bottles etc, and every one of them's "borrowed" some water when they ran out or lost a bottle, or used my pump because their pen-sized one is useless, or asked me if I can carry a jacket for them, or similiar... It seems like riding without a pack is great as long as they ride with someone else who has one 😆

That's not a bottle cage... 🙄

THIS...is a bottle cage.
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liteville 301's can take a bottle cage, with a big bottle.
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true but the bike looks properly f'd

What was in the bottle that was so heavy it made the bike collapse?! 😆

Surely it's better to carry a complete tool kit, 4 changes of clothes, a replacement bike and a 4 course meal in a massive back pack than use a bottle & a pocket?
or at least that's what it seems like out on the trails

What was in the bottle that was so heavy it made the bike collapse?!

Don;t be silly, the owner obviously removes the air from the shock and forks so that nobody can steal it (the air).

Surely it's better to carry a complete tool kit, 4 changes of clothes, a replacement bike and a 4 course meal in a massive back pack than use a bottle & a pocket?

It's not a bad idea to pack for worst case scenarios, though obviously it can go too far.
You may be warm enough in your skimpy top and lycra G-string while riding, but have a crash and it may be a different story, sitting there getting hypothermic on top of a Welsh hillside.

Depends where you are riding and how far from help I guess.
I always wear a backpack now, it's an Evoc one with a back protector so I like to wear it even if it's got barely anything in it.

I have an irrational disdain for bottles....and mudguards 😉

Bottles!

Tsk,bags are the future man .

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Sams from Perth, it gets really ****in hot here... i mean really warm. Any way you can carry more waters a good thing to be honest. I've been know to get through a full camelbak, extra 600 ml water bottle shoved in, 500 ml frame bottle and the emergency bottle in the car over the course of a 25 km ride.

Some of these pros will ride anything

I am always happy when these fashions come round again.
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The first MTB lowrider...slammed to the tarmac.

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Surely it's better to carry a complete tool kit, 4 changes of clothes, a replacement bike and a 4 course meal in a massive back pack than use a bottle & a pocket?

Yeah, the rufty tufty ballistic nylon and kevlar "all but the kitchen sink" backpack emphasises that here in the UK it's [i]really a matter of potential life or death[/i] riding a few laps of a bike theme park which never strays more than a mile or so from the car park and café.

I always wear a backpack now, it's an Evoc one with a back protector so I like to wear it [b]even if it's got barely anything in it.[/b]

This is what mystfies me too

riding a few laps of a bike theme park which never strays more than a mile or so from the car park and café.

There is nothing wrong with a bag

Some of us don't like the feeling of a small, sweaty midget trying to strangle your when riding.

I wouldn't buy a bike without a bottle cage mount.

Not everyone wears those fashion hipster jerseys with pockets in them

yer, jersey pockets, well hip

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yer a roadie jersey, this would be mountain biking

Some of us don't like the feeling of a small, sweaty midget trying to strangle your when riding.

a jersey is a jersey, i don't have anything other than roadie jerseys and i do plenty of mtb miles

well there you go, most mountain bike jerseys don't have pockets, I've tried it a couple of times the crap just bounces round if there is any weight in it on some proper rough stuff.

Stuff in jersey pockets is pretty isolated from 'proper rough stuff' so rarely falls out. Seat packs on the other hand take a right beating and I've had one of those fall off.

So I prefer a bottle, and stuff in jersey pockets. If it's an exceptionally long ride needing a lot of food and water, then i'll take a camelbak, but with bottles on the bike and spares in the camelbak.

Hob Nob - Member

Some of us don't like the feeling of a small, sweaty midget trying to strangle your when riding.

I think you're doing it wrong. The straps go round your arms not your throat.

I think you're doing it wrong. The straps go round your arms not your throat.

Ah, that must be it. Think i'll go with the shoulders rather than the arms though 🙂

I've tried it a couple of times the crap just bounces round if there is any weight in it on some proper rough stuff.

what you carrying?

tubes, food etc. but in reality I have to go and buy a special T Shirt to carry stuff when I have a perfectly good bag that also carries my water, has zip up pockets for my keys and phone and is comfortable. Can't see the logic there really

Oops clash of the bak/bottle clans. Don't we get worked up about trivial stuff?

Bak
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keeps everything safely together, can carry a lot of stuff, easy to drink from
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can carry too much stuff, sweaty back, pricey

Bottle
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No sweaty back, no overloading, cheap
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weight on the bike is bad for weight shifts IME, mouth piece can more easily get covered in crap, mtb apparel a bit short on pockets and frames short on bottle mounts [i]generally[/i].

Pay your money and make your choice, pros and cons for both so lets keep it civil 🙂

That bike looks lovely 😀

I generally have a bottle in cage, lycra jersey with rear pockets and a rucksack with various stuff in. Does that make me weird, broadminded or indecisive?

Anyway,, the Enduro sash is where it's at.

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🙂

Ideal for carrying your bowcaster

[i]This[/i] is a cool cage

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Does that make me weird, broadminded or indecisive?

This is a cool cage

I use a camelback but only for ride essentials, water goes in bottles not used the bladder for ages.
Am I weird or enduro?

Don't rule out both. Hard to say without a pic.

A jersey without pockets is just a t shirt surely?

A jersey without pockets is just a t shirt surely?

......probably an enduro technical T-shirt though 😆

Good point hilldodger.

..probably an enduro technical T-shirt though

or just a normal baggy jersey that they have been selling for the last 10 years or more.

A jersey without pockets is just a t shirt surely?

Technical T shirt to me is like a football shirt, wicks but baggy and no dropped back.

*pretty sure to the rest of the world a jersey is a jumper (or an island in the channel).

This is a cool cage

Dolphin-headed bat.

I use both bottle and camelbak. It's easier for a lazy person to refill a bottle when your rucksack is stuffed to brimming. I also keep my tools in a spare bottle and just put that in a second cage when I use the road bike.

Usually "technical" refers to the fabrics more than anything else I think- basically seems to mean "not cotton". hardly any of my honest-to-god-cycling-jerseys have pockets, only my road stuff does really.

Partly because crashing is iffy enough without packing loads of stuff against your spine, but mostly because I've tried both ways and prefer a pack.

Sometimes taking a gamble pays off - I've ridden all summer long with not so much as an Allen key - let alone a spare tube - water bottle every time for me.. Golden rule is keeping bike maintained - fresh sealent in tyres and a mobile with plenty of charge . It defo improves the feeling of the ride not being encumbered with tools and a backpack ..

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Noltae, here here!
It was a joy this summer to just wear shorts and T-Shirt, small multitool in one pocket, phone in the other and bottle of water on the bike.

No camelpak (god I hate that word, it's a rucksack FFS), no pump, tubes etc etc...probably why I knock the MTB on the head over winter, I can't be bothered carrying around food, jackets, etc etc.

deviant - Member

camelpak (god I hate that word,

Good stuff- you just made it up 😆

🙂

Haha, yeah typo but you know what I meant!

How the hell do you stop a water bottle falling out on a. mountain bike doing single track?

[quote=pitchpro2011 ]How the hell do you stop a water bottle falling out on a. mountain bike doing single track?
You use a decent cage

My bottle ain't gonna fall out of there too easily. [IMG] [/IMG]

On Sundays peaks pootle two blokes on carbon bling Santa Cruz's rode past me with water bottles. I thought odd (?)

Now it makes sense. Fashion biking meets mimic fashion.

pitchpro2011 - Member 
How the hell do you stop a water bottle falling out on a. mountain bike doing single track?

Put it in your Camelpak?
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Why's someone on a nice bike with a water bottle considered 'odd'?

You must live in a strange world if that's how your brain works 🙂

On a autumn <2hr ride do you need water?

Ah, you quizzed them on their riding time & intentions?

Shame on me, I took a bottle on my 2 hour ride last weekend too. I'm doing it wrong. 😳

The weather's different here so need plenty of water even for an hours blast but back home I always used a back pack. Could fit a waterproof, 3 x tubes, tools, sandwiches, phone, pump and other bits and pieces. I find it easier to drink from a bladder than a bottle cage and it kept all my stuff together when I wasn't riding. Could get my bag and go.

I was first converted to a bag and bladder when my lights (10+ years ago) had a battery designed to fit into the bottle cage on a bike.

Plus, even Sam Hill can't persuade me that bottle don't ruin the look of a bike.

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Hob nob do you dress up as an enduro pro too ?

I've always stuck with a bottle and cage really. I did try a pack with a bladder a couple of times but didn't like it.

Now I still use a Marin bumbag from the 90's and a bottle. Not fashionable I'm sure but I'm not bothered either.

I do still have the small pack, but the bladder was long ditched. I've used it a couple of times on family rides only to carry some extra snacks in!

Does taking a water bottle on a sub 2 hour ride make me Enduro Pro then? if only i'd known it was that easy. 🙂

Sadly most of my riding kit is black, nor is is made by POC, so i'm obviously not trying hard enough.

It's getting hard to geet up with all your pseudonyms now, but at least it's something to aspire to.