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Just had my new hardtail delivered and was wondering idly what I could use them for.....

Seems a bit like cars still having tape players up till a couple of years ago!


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:10 am
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Could put a cage in there and then fill said cage with a bottle.

Cage could contain liquid or tools or crack cocaine.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:12 am
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On my CX bike, I use them for bottles and a pump bracket.

When I had my hardtail, I just went the tarty route and put some [url= http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Set-of-4-A2Z-Alloy-Water-Bottle-Cage-Bolts-for-Bike-Cycle-Anodised-in-9-Colours-/180798255654?pt=UK_SportGoods_CyclAcces_RL&var=480331585863&hash=item2a186a7226 ]fancy coloured bolts[/url] in there.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:12 am
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Still playing teenage mutant turtle paratrooper are we youth?


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:13 am
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All my bikes have bottle cages on them.

Sweaty back only when strictly necessary.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:13 am
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Yes. I generally fit a bottle cage. Don't always use it, but it comes in handy for those massive rides in really nice weather when extra water is a good thing.

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Posted : 29/04/2014 11:13 am
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Camelbacks are a necessary evil to strap body armour to for the climb up to the spoooky wood isnti t?


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:14 am
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Still plenty of people using them

My only gripe with my new frame is that it only has one set - and I wouldn't buy a frame that didn't have at least one pair


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:14 am
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Yep. got two of them on the bike, far nicer than a pack on my back making me more sweaty than i need to be.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:16 am
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It seems to be quite ENDURO, bottle cage and bumbag, oh and get your mates to refill your water and carry your stuff and lend you tubes and tools.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:17 am
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all my bikes have cages on, if not two - I'm really not a fan of a sweaty back!


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:18 am
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Bottle cage FTW. Tube/Co2 pump strapped to seatpost. Multi-tool and minipump in jersey pockets. Done.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:19 am
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When I'm going on a quick hour blast round the local woods a bottle / bottle cage comes in really handy.

So much quicker to sort out than the Camelbak when you just want to get out of the house quickly before it gets dark.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:21 am
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Its always fun trying to watch someone fill a camelback in a stream ....


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:23 am
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Yes - use 2 on all bikes. Much preferred to a sweaty camelback.

My only gripe with my new frame is that it only has one set - and I wouldn't buy a frame that didn't have at least one pair

Got that issue on one bike, so I jubilee clipped another cage directly to the seat-tube. Solid, if not pretty.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:25 am
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Road bike and HT have bottle cages on, FS doesn't have bosses so it's camleback all the way with that. Quick blast locally doesn't require water though.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:27 am
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So much quicker to sort out than the Camelbak when you just want to get out of the house quickly before it gets dark.

Yep the pick it up and pour water in thing does get tricky with a camel back, and the fact my tool, pump and spare tube are in there. It's just murder really.

When I was up racing last year some muppet with just 1 bottle for a 50km ride was bouncing ungracefully down the rough trail in front getting in the way when his bottle fell off his frame. He though I was being sarcastic when I shouted he had lost his bottle. 50km and 30c would have been nasty.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:29 am
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I use mine, annoying though when the screw thread in the frame comes loose... 😕


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:30 am
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I use cages on every bike I own other than the DH bike and the 160mm bike as for the former, I have water at the car and for the latter I tend to have a camelbak with me.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:31 am
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I've probably had as many camelback failures - splits, valve coming off etc as bottle drops. Use the cheap alu cages and bend them to make it a tighter fit.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:33 am
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Depends what bike its on. By the sounds of it being a hardtail its an xc bike so yes needed.

No bottle cages on a frame would be deal breaker for me.

Or you could just forget they are there if your not going to use them.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:34 am
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When I had a custom frame built in 1986 it had 3. My next custom build will also have 3


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:36 am
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Actually this might sound daft, but I'd love one on my dh bike, thirsty business, pushing. I've got a tiny wee squeezy bottle I can fit in a pocket but a skinny half-sized bottle would be the business. Everything else offroad, I wear a camelbak.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:43 am
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I agree, forget the rucsac...


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:49 am
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My MTB has a bottle cage for two reasons:

[list][*]Big rides (6+ hours) - more liquid required than I can carry in the Camelbak. Also handy for putting energy drink (w. electrolytes) in, preventing manky bladder.[/*]
[*]BMX track / pump track - don't want Camelbak getting in the way, leave the water bottle on the start ramp and don't worry about anyone nicking it.[/*][/list]


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:52 am
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I use mine, annoying though when the screw thread in the frame comes loose...

Pop Rivet the cage on. That's what I did when the thread stripped...straight into the old captive nut fitting.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:58 am
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I would have said the same a couple of years ago. I've started using them now (bottles and cages) for local couple hour blasts. It really is so much nicer hammering the single track without a back-pack.

I have to agree that they spoil the look of the bike though, but I only notice that when it's parked up!


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:59 am
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I use bottle cages and bottles. for up to 3 hours a couple of bottles do fine, for more than that my camelback bladder comes out. Still use the backpack for the kitchen sink though.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 12:18 pm
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Unless I'm going for a bigger day in the hills, I try to ride without a pack whenever I can, so yes, I ride with a bottle on the frame. I used to cart all sorts of stuff around my local trails in my camelbak, seems really stupid now.

And bottles can always be filled from streams, and I've not died from that yet.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 12:25 pm
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Ok ok! so you all love them!

I used to bung a bottle on and go occasionally but to all those people who say they never have enough liquid and need the bottle as well....3 litres not enough? I don't think I've ever needed more on a ride except when doing 150 mile days touring when there is always somewhere to refill

To those who just use a bottle - and have dropper posts.....where do you stick your tube, pump, multitool, phone, tyre levers?


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 12:41 pm
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I use them for water, tools and for night rides the battery pack for my lights. I wouldn't have a bike without them.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 1:39 pm
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yup.. i wouldn't buy a frame that didn't have them!

bottle in bottle cage.. tools in under seat pouch..

only wear a rucksack on long day rides where i need to take food and more/spare layers of clothing


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 2:15 pm
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where do you stick your tube, pump, multitool, phone, tyre levers?

Jersey pockets


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 2:21 pm
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If you have to ask ....

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Posted : 29/04/2014 2:23 pm
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I do use a bottle on the cx bike when out bridleway bashing - it's fine apart from the unavoidable bit of sh1t that always lands on the mouthpiece.

yuck


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 2:39 pm
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I always take a bag with jacket food and tools but I prefer to have a bottle on the bike rather than the awkward hard to clean/fill and never know how much you've drank bladder.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 2:46 pm
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never know how much you've drank bladder.

This is why I switched to bottles. Riding 5 or 6 hours without really knowing how much fluid you are taking in isn't too much fun as I invariably don't drink enough (or at all if I am distracted by nice, fun singletrack 😀 )

Can't stand cleaning the Camelback bladder either and prefer to ride without a pack where a couple of large bottle and a stuffed jersey get the job done.

A ton of crap on the mouthpiece is just part of the MTFU experince of MTB 😀 Not hard to have a quick swill to wash it off on the go.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 3:16 pm
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Often wonder what the hell people carry in those backpacks............


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 3:17 pm
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tools + dropper post?

i use one of these..

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[url= http://www.lezyne.com/product-orgnzrs-caddys-mcrocaddysm.php#.U1_BvqK9aSo ]Lezyne Micro caddy[/url]

its got all my tools.. some park patches, a c02 cartridge and a micro pump in it..

and it doesn't clamp to the seat post so no issues with the dropper and it doesnt flap about either!


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 3:20 pm
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My rides are usually fairly short, like no more than a couple of hours. Bottles work for me

WRT this weekend, two cages and two bottles. That's it!

Would hate not to have them


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 3:25 pm
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Anyone do a battery case for DX type lights that fixes to a bottle cage?


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 3:49 pm
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Love of the review of that Lezyne saddle bag.....
"Not everyone needs to take several rounds of sandwiches, a phone, a camera, a waterproof, a spare gear cable, three tubes, patches, a lucky Gonk and all the other saddlebag detritus that some deem necessary on a ride all stuffed into a saddlepack that would trouble a budget airlines baggage allowance. Others like to travel fast and light,...the Lezyne Micro Caddy (Small) is for those people."

lol 😆


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 3:58 pm
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To those who just use a bottle - and have dropper posts.....where do you stick your tube, pump, multitool, phone, tyre levers?

I quite often ride with none of that, locally I'm never really further than 10 miles from the house, and I maintain my bike pretty well. It will come back to bite me one day, but so be it.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 10:37 pm
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Ride an enduro use the cage bosses for a bottle !
Have a dropper post and just put tool and tube in my short pocket/ jursey pocket

Hate having to wear a pack if I don't have to


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 10:48 pm
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my ss and my cx both have two, and i have a tool bottle with a tube a tool and patches and levers etc in one and a water bottle with a pump mounted on the cage on the other, ready to go. each bike has it's own because the tubes are different. it makes leaving the house easy. i find my shoes, hat and bike and i'm ready.

unfortunately the full sus doesnt have any, so i have to faff about finding the pack and make sure i have a pump and a tube the right size and so on.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 10:55 pm
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My new custom Ti frame has three sets of bosses. Might add a couple to the forks too.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 11:38 pm
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A bike would have to be vastly superior to the completion to make me buy it if it didn't have a bottle mount.

Did you see the EWS footage? Not many packs on backs...


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 2:20 am
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i still use them for drinking bottles.


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 2:26 am
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Often wonder what the hell people carry in those backpacks............
Thats a whole new thread but it ranges from the bare minimum of
Pump
Multitool
Spare Tube
Mech Hanger
Water

I could put that in a pocket but as most of my jerseys don't have them it's not practical. The ones that do tend to pull much lower with stuff in the pockets and are uncomfortable and annoying.
that is on rides where I'm close to home (under 10 miles) or close to the car.

After that,
Another tube
Food
Spare jersey/jacket
First aid kit (bare minimum of a bandage for snake bites is very sensible over here)
Phone

On a practical not all of the kit stays in the bag so I don't need to take it all out of my pockets store it, re pack it every time I go out.


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 2:35 am
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Mike I can understand most of what you carry given where you live but riders here carry a lot more to ride around a 10 mile trail centre they've driven 2 hours to get to in the car & it's got a shop & cafe in the middle of it

I don't use a huge bag on my back with half my worldly possessions in it (like everyone else seems to) so a bottle & cage is useful. Moreso on the road bike


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 5:14 am
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Mike I can understand most of what you carry given where you live but riders here carry a lot more to ride around a 10 mile trail centre they've driven 2 hours to get to in the car & it's got a shop & cafe in the middle of it

Who cares?

Honestly I don't get trying to ram the bare minimum into a jersey pocket but I try not to look down on those who do. Some people do different things, some people just take the bag they normally do wherever they go rather then trying to work out what to pack for the day.

Other times bags look big when empty - people don't tend to have 3-4 bags of varying sizes depending of if they want to take a thick jacket or more sandwiches.

Sometimes people over think things.


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 5:33 am
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Bar bags FTW.
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Posted : 30/04/2014 5:35 am
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FTWTF?

Is he(/you?) racing to Tesco's?


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 5:48 am
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^^^^ Cheeky cow.


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 5:52 am
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I'm assuming there is a map on the top of that bag oldgit? It makes so much sense (in the right context) but even so I find obscuring the view of the front wheel very disconcerting.


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 6:00 am
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They don't hide the wheel at all. I use it for audax, but that was the HONC so it had all the rubbish I had to carry with me.
2 x 29er tubes, tools, phone, wallet, keys, food, reading glasses and the HONC map and control card.


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 6:07 am
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Who cares?

me! especially when I've been on rides where guys have moaned how much climbing there is and they wish they had a lighter bike etc, then you find out they are almost carrying the weight of a bike in their rucksack and we're only doing 15 miles with a cafe stop in the middle!


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 6:12 am
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especially when I've been on rides where guys have moaned

those people are the one who would moan if it was too long/short/steep/flat/warm/cold/sunny/cloudy normally.


 
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i have a bottle cage and take a bottle full of lucozade or some such on longer rides in addition to the water in my pack. Bottles are cool again dont you know, they're 'enduro' like goggles with open face lids! 😆


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 6:31 am
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I'm with Rocketdog, there's myriad posts on here about saving weight, bikes not climbing well etc. the standard answer is always "have a dump", it should be "re-evaluate the contents of your Camelbak!"

I just don't get carrying shock pumps, brake pads and so on for anything bar proper riding in the wilds.

On the flipside... As you say Mike it makes no difference to me frankly!


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 6:43 am
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I do have a cage on a couple of bikes but only really used to hold a battery for my lights when night riding.


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 6:50 am
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My bottle cage bosses let my inbred rust from the inside out.


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 7:02 am
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My new custom Ti frame has three sets of bosses
Can I suggest a Mr King Ti cages, stupid light and Ti on Ti looks so damn good.


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 7:05 am
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[i]My bottle cage bosses let my inbred rust from the inside out.[/i]

did you not put well greased bolts in them?

all my bikes have bottle cages that get used;

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only place they seem to gather water is the bottom of the seat tube when it gets in the top.


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 7:10 am
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It was a serious point of consideration for me when buying a new FS bike, as lots don't have them now.

My current bike does, as I hate wearing a backpack. I'll be giving enduroing racing a try with just a bottle this year, as I don't drink much anyway. Everything else will fit in pockets (unless its sh*tty, changable weather & I may have to wear one to carry coats etc).

This way I gain extra enduro points, because I can tape a tube to the frame 🙂


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 7:14 am
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Anyway, use a Bottle & call it a "bidon" if you really want to get people's back up 🙂


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 8:14 am

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