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Im a touch OCD about life to be honest.

Sometimes when Im working on a bike or building one up, as I am at the moment....well... it gets out of hand.

Few minutes back at gone 1am Im threading the Jagwire outer through a Dartmoor Primal frame, as you do this time in the morning. From the front through a few holes and out by the rear mech. First time. Never had a frame with internal cable routing so was expecting a nightmare.

Nope goes through first time, either just dumb luck or the cable exits on Dartmoors are easier than some frames I guess.

Then the horror.... the horror strikes.

On one section of the cable that is exposed, between the top tube and the seat stay.... the Jagwire wording is upside down and back to front.

Initially I just smirk,to myself. Pah! Its nothing, so what! I wonder off to do some reading for a while till sleep does come-a-calling.

Nope. That damned picture in my head of the upside down... and back to front.... Jagwire logo is ingrained in my retinas!!

So....goes back to bike unthreads said cable.... rethread the cable outer from its other end this time. Logo going in the correct direction. Check. All tickety boo.

This time the cable puts up a fight though and after some cursing and scratching of the outer on the cable exit points on the frame (oh the irony)....

I find.....

That unless I now cut some of the cable off for no good reason at all..... YOU NOW CANT SEE THE BL**DY JAGWIRE LOGO ON THE PARTS WHERE IT EXITS THE FRAME!!!!!

And... breath....

Please tell me you guys have some form of bike related OCD??!!

No really, [b]PLEASE!![/b] 😀


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 1:50 am
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Yeah, if I crash on one side I try and balance it out.....


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 1:51 am
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Twist the cable so the logo faces into the frame.
Not only will it now be the correct way up but will be hidden from view and your bike will look better for having one less ugly logo adorning it.

that's not OCD by the way. it's simply mild perfectionism.

Hope this has been helpful.

Night night.


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 2:45 am
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You need to hand paint the Jagwire logo in so that it's visible


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 5:36 am
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Yeah, if I crash on one side I try and balance it out.....

I get the same about keeping similar quantities of filth on both sides of my bike.


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 6:04 am
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That all sounds like perfectly normal behaviour to me. I've been kept awake at night by stuff on a bike that you know isn't [i]just right[/i].

Keep it up! 😀


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 6:39 am
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Having lived with an actual obsessive compulsive, no you don't have a 'touch of ocd'.
You're just a bit anal about details. That's fine, I'm like that too but it isn't OCD.
Sorry, bugs me that....


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 6:46 am
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Nowt wrong with that. I "waste" cable housing on builds so I can get the logo in the right place.

When I used to work in a bike shop, I even had some customers who would notice and appreciate the effort. I'm thinking of you Steve with the black chameleon.


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 6:59 am
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Unsure if its ocd or just something that you want done correctley eg
Customer Buying a 3-3.5k bike with 11sp cassette when i build it all spacers and writing have to line up in the gaps,tape measured correctly from stem,saddle level

I get crap for this from the other staff but to be fair its only what I'd expect done to my own bike nowing that my expensive bike it being built with detail


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 7:14 am
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Sounds like the route to a wasted life TBH,spending time pissing about with such minutiae....

mattbee is right it's not actual OCD, just having your priorities out of order...


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 7:27 am
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You don't have kids I assume OP?

How much time do you spend each week actually riding?


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 8:08 am
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Sounds like the route to a wasted life TBH,spending time pissing about with such minutiae....

This is so wrong.
It shows the OP's attention to detail, a pride in doing the job as well as he can do it.

It's to be applauded not ridiculed. Says to me his priorities are properly in order.

If I take my bike in to be serviced, I look for the little touches like rp16v talks about. Then I know the bike has been serviced properly. I've stopped using my LBS as the mechanic changed and things didn't line up perfectly.

As you were OP - job well done.


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 8:32 am
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OP, I'd do the same thing. There's no point in doing a half asked job on a new build. Part of the fun is making sure everything is perfect.


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 9:05 am
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Am a bit like that

Headset logos & top caps, hub logos & valve holes, cable logos, grip end caps all that sort of stuff has to line up and be the right way round. Used to assemble stuff wrong like the OP but now I just take more care and do it right first time 🙂


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 9:15 am
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Some of you guys would have a seizure if you could see my current build in progress.

I was gonna suggest a support group, but I think that's what the forum is here for.

😀


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 9:27 am
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I've got 3 different colours and makes of brake and gear cable on my bike. No idea where the logos are, but my brakes and gears work, which is all I'm bothered about when I'm spinning along enjoying the ride!


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 9:31 am
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What you want to do is, set it up so the jagwire logo can't be seen, then write "shimano" on it with silver pen so people don't think you're daft.


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 9:32 am
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I've got out of bed at 2am, to go and fix some bartape that wasn't 'right' 🙁

Being a perfectionist can be a right pain in the arse. Wouldn't call it OCD though.


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 9:34 am
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Shouldn't the logo be the way up that you can read when you are on the bike? I think you need to change it back.


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 10:16 am
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Who'd want to see the logo anyway? Sounds good to me.

My usual trick with cable outers is to cut it too long, go to snip a bit off and then find it's probably a touch too short.


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 10:24 am
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I am OK with the logic of tyre logo/valve alignment but gear cable logo's? Even headset logo positioning or alignment is utterly pointless...

One man's "attention to detail" is another man's "pissing about" so long as it makes you happier than actually riding the thing and the other boys in the car park Swoon at the immaculate state of your [s]golf sticks[/s] "Rig" when it's hoisted from the roof rack, then go you!...


 
Posted : 27/10/2015 11:52 am
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Bikes? Logos? Genuinely don't care.

immaculate state of your golf sticks ..

THIS I care about. Deeply....
Many an hour wasted on fastidiously cleaning the precision milled face of my Scotty.

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Posted : 27/10/2015 12:03 pm
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Hmm, Dartmoor Primal you say- got any photos of it? I'm thinking of buying one of these in the new year.


 
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Posted : 27/10/2015 12:12 pm
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Thanks for the comments guys, even the, erm, slightly passive aggressive ones. lol Have to laugh, only on STW. 😉

[b]munrobiker[/b]

Excuse the state as it really is in the middle of a build. Just doing bits and pieces when I can. At the moment the Jagwire has "exploded" over the frame! lol Going to run 1 1x 11 setup with sram shifters, mech BUT an M8000 cassette as the hub cant take an XD driver. 😉

Sorry for poor pics, my mobile isnt too keen on low light...

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Posted : 28/10/2015 1:29 am
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What clothes airer is that? Custom adaptation I presume..


 
Posted : 28/10/2015 6:22 am
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Weird.
You worry about detail on a bike with a cassette like that!
Actually I am the same.
My OE lecture at college had the motto " attention to detail is the hallmark of a professional" . We all muttered it in our sleep.
It worked for his son, Sir Dave B


 
Posted : 28/10/2015 7:57 am
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I'd say it was very mild OCD with a touch of anxiety. I think I have the same and many here seem to too. I think the diagnosis of mental illness is about the extent at which the behaviour impacts on your life. I remember a comment by a Doctor at Bethlem Royal Hospital, saying that, we may all have some of the traits of mental illness, its by what degree that is important to whether we need treatment. So, yes, although you might be joking, you might be a bit ill, but then so are most of us 😮 :$ :*


 
Posted : 28/10/2015 9:49 am
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Also, is that a oneUp your fitting? I am just building my new bike with a oneUp for the first time. Have you had any chain dropping issues?


 
Posted : 28/10/2015 9:50 am
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I put stickers on a pair of hubs once, laced them all up, then realized the front hub had the writing facing me, and the rear backwards.

I self-flagellated for hours that night.


 
Posted : 28/10/2015 10:29 am
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I made sure I got the top of the headset on the right way around so the logos were front/rear (brand name/model, so didn't want left and right for that). Then forgot all about it putting the top cap on and can't really be bothered putting it right.

I try and do the valve hole/tyre logo thing for the sake of finding punctures, though. I'm too bothered about riding the thing to go back and sort anything out if I forget about it when assembling the first time tbh. I do often lend bikes to people apologising that something needs some work and they think it's fine, so I'm a bit perfectionist with that clearly.


 
Posted : 28/10/2015 11:45 am
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That light switch looks wonky?


 
Posted : 28/10/2015 2:36 pm
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...also yer rear tyre looks a bit flat 😀


 
Posted : 28/10/2015 2:41 pm
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I must have my cables right.

I need the curvature of the cables to be consistent.
for example the curve of the cable as it goes from the top tube to the seat stay for the rear mech must have a similar curve as the cable going down to the frint mech, the shifters cables must be the same and the front brake hose must have a fluid line, no excess and enough curve to allow it to flex easily without snagging, its the same for any section of cable.


 
Posted : 28/10/2015 4:04 pm
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I'm guessing few people on this thread will be impressed by the front light I fixed to my commuter on Monday using brown parcel tape. after the mount broke..


 
Posted : 28/10/2015 4:15 pm
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Making sure the logos on tyres line up with the logos on the rims is about as far as it goes. A bike that's mechanically correct tends to be aesthetically correct by default.


 
Posted : 28/10/2015 4:19 pm
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dogmatix

Also, is that a oneUp your fitting? I am just building my new bike with a oneUp for the first time. Have you had any chain dropping issues?

Hi there,

No, its a standard 11 speed M8000 (XT) cassette. The largest cog is a different colour as its allow.

I almost went the 10 spd route with an extender but it wasnt cost effective over getting an 11 speed setup to be honest. That said, it depends on what 10 speed stuff you have laying around.

I had none as the other bike I upgraded was 3x 9 so I only have 9 spd spares... so decided to go the whole hog and go with 11 speed. Some new stuff, some secondhand.


 
Posted : 28/10/2015 9:06 pm
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[quote=garlic ]Making sure the logos on tyres line up with the logos on the rims is about as far as it goes. I've stopped doing this and now make sure the part of the tyre with recommended pressures is beside the valve.


 
Posted : 28/10/2015 9:16 pm
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Ha ha. You do know those numbers are just made up, eh?


 
Posted : 28/10/2015 9:47 pm
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Sighs,if only........


 
Posted : 28/10/2015 9:54 pm
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People joke "I'm a bit OCD", they're not, just a bit picky. Real OCD is a truly horrible condition that effects sufferers in ways you couldn't imagine.

Right, that's enough seriousness.

OP, I can fully understand your frustration with the cabling. I bought my son a second hand Inbred, the wheels are On One R'tards. I had to adjust the tyre logo / valve alignment when we were on holiday. It was then I noticed the front hub is on the wrong way round, the rear wheel logos line up with the logos on the rim and the valve hole. The front hub logos line up with the valve hole, but it needs flipping to line up with the rim logos. Arrgghhh. It still bothers me 4 months later. I'm considering rebuilding the wheel to put it right.

It's the small details that make a bike, IMO.


 
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If I post a pic of my wheels where the tyre logo doesn't line up with the rim logo, will you sleep ok tonight or will you come round and sort them out for me?
🙂


 
Posted : 29/10/2015 11:48 am

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