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I entered and got into the Vets national road race championships, so far so good.
However entry was first come first served. Now a lot of the old guard are up in arms because they've not got in. And a fair few are complaining that riders like myself have no place in a championship, and that entry should be based on 'quality', the vets league doesn't work on points like the BC.
I was looking forward to this, but now it feels like I've gate crashed a party or poo'd on their lawn.
The child in me says I won't bother hosting a road race of this stature ever again, and if they have a gripe, try orgainising more open road races like my little outfit.
FTR, I'm what you might call cannon fodder. I'm in the 50-55 age group (53) I finish about 10th in most crits, I finished 4th over 50 in the Central cyclo cross league and 19th overall in the Vets national CX.
Ride or pull and let better riders through?
Sorry but I don't see the question, you're a human being in a free country. Live your life, you entered, ride and give the miserable gits the rods as you finish.
RIDE! Give it full gas and enjoy the pain. Good luck.
makes no difference to you I guess but might make it a hollow victory for the eventual winner if the best riders aren't present.
just grumpy old men init.
Just ignore them ,or tell them you are awsomes (age related)and will kick their tired old Rs 😀
Firstly it seems those results more than validate an entry, everybody is cannon fodder except the winner.
Secondly its not your fault that you were organised and entered early.
Race, attack like your life depended on it, get lapped, then use all the hot water in the showers.
I entered and got into the Vets national road race championships, so far so good.
The child in me says I won't bother hosting a road race of this stature ever again
The only issue I can see is if I have interpreted the above correctly.
Are you (or your outfit) organising the race? If so, is this directly related to you being one of the first come first served? If so then I can see a bit of a conflict of interests.
If that isn't the case, or it is and you can ride with a clear concience then go ahea. Just don't get dropped on the first climb!
Great advice Chef, love it.
Poo on the lawn before the start?
Sour grapes for not being organised enough to enter promptly
Race, attack like your life depended on it, get lapped, then use all the hot water in the showers.
Quality motto sir .. 😉
Our club is hosting the Championships. I'm in the lead car for the early races.
A month after the event went up on 'RiderHQ' there were still places left so I just entered online, paid my dues and was in.
RiderHQ doesn't recognize you, only your money.
Initialy I wasn't going to enter as it was going to be a long day anyway.
A month after the event went up on 'RiderHQ' there were still places left so I just entered online, paid my dues and was in.
I can't see how anyone can have a problem then, your in fair and square. Go all out to bag the first prime then pootle round to collect your winnings 😉
How do you think you'll do? I'm assuming not well if you are posting about it. IMO there is nothing more soul destroying and pointless than riding a road race where you get dropped at the first acceleration or climb and then spend the remaining 90% of the event riding the course solo or buddied up with some other looser (in the literal rather than metaphoric sense!) with the main peleton so far up the road that all the spectators have packed up and gone home by the time you come through.
If that's going to be you and you have a chance to pull out now I'd do it not because of the pressure from the big boys but because it's no fun. If you have a chance of hanging on in there; hang on in there and take your rightful place at the start line.
Sounds like you need to start racing mountain bikes and you wouldn't get any of this stupid girlie bullsxxt
Most likely the guys that can't get entered will come and cheer you on as you wiz by.
Even if you quit it will only allow one other rider to race which will make little difference to the results. There are always complaints about the race entry process by those who lose out whichever way its run.
Too much analysis and worry- just ride!
If I were you, I'd ride.
There are times in your life that you will never be able to repeat, this could be one of them. I mean how often will you get to organise and race in an event that you are organising? Don't dull the day by looking back one day and say "I did all the hard boring work, but never got to ride out".
You entered fair and square, for that reason you are entitled to ride.
Cap on, clip in.
convert.
Hard to say. If it goes hard from the gun, unlikely, then I might have a problem. It's 62 miles, if I can stay with the bunch for the first 40 minutes then I'll be okay. After that I'll be able to mix it with the rest.
Super hard from the gun is my weak point, though obviously a clever ride would help.
Attrition and a reasonably good finish are my strong points.
Ride and enjoy!!
Really annoys me that just because people consider themselves the "old guard" it automatically exempts them from closing dates and first come first serve!!
Your results seem pretty good to me and as swedish chef states more than qualify you for a shot!! Its what happens on the day that counts!!
All the best to you and good luck!!
If you think you'll enjoy then I'd keep your place, as has been said you didn't get a place sneakily or anything. Personally though if I was helping out with other events in the morning I'd probably not bother trying to race in the afternoon but that's me.
The Swedish Chef summed it up most eloquently. Do it.
If it's 1st come 1st served then just crack on with it, if you were organised enough to enter on time any they weren't then tough IMO. If they were that keen to ride and have been targeting it, they'd have entered early like yourself.
People seem to forget that it's a free country, organisers can set rules and regs to their own events, if you match them, why not enter?
Btw, If in doubt, Lead out! 😉
They've gotta be in a race to win it...if they can't even get entered they've failed at the first hurdle. You'd think being 50+ they'd have got the hang of that by now, they're big boys now, obviously not...
Ride!
Firstly it seems those results more than validate an entry
+1
A month after the event went up
a month. 😯 they're throwing toys out the pram.
It's open entry, you entered & you got in, end of.
Those that think their "reputation" earns them a place in whatever race they want to ride in, but can't be arsed to enter in good time, need to get their heads out of their asses! Definitely makes them sound like foot stamping, toy throwing, tantrumming toddlers 🙂
The Swedish Chef - ever considered motivational speaking? 🙂
Sweedish Chef has it perfectly and when you consider they had a month to enter....
However if it was me, I would put something in writing (e-mail) to the main organiser/ committee whatever, or maybe raise it in a minuted meeting outlining your personal dilemma in order to open a review process on how entries are allocated.
Anyway, sounds to me like you have a right to race on two counts:
1. your results to date
2. you were failry awarded an entry according to the entry conditions in this instance.
Go race, go hard.
Oh, and good luck! 😀
paddyanddre1978 - Member
Ride and enjoy!!
Really annoys me that just because people consider themselves the "old guard" it automatically exempts them from closing dates and first come first serve!!
+1. It wasn't like you jumped the queue.
If it was me, I'd be digging my heels in at all their whinging and definitely doing it. Perhaps they will think a bit more in future & get their entries in.
Standard answer to those who didn't enter in time;
"un****inglucky" 😀
💡 ride in baggies 💡
What the Swedish Chef said! To me your results more than justify an entry-fair enough you're probably not going to be amongst the strongest-ho hum!
I take it this is LVRC?
I personally don't like the first come first served approach to race entries but it's the organisations choice.
People should tell the LVRC if they don't like the system, not you.
You're doing the lead car for the early races. Lots of riders like to moan but go very quiet when it's time to help out.
Everyone will forget about it, come race day.
Have a good one!
servo, that's the boys. It seems they would like a qualifying race/races or something, well who's gonna organize that then?
I know I can hold my own in my local races for my age, I'm one of the very few that actually race in races, but God knows how good the good guys are?
Isn't there divisional championships anymore. "In my day" the first six where automatically entered. I may be wrong though.
Either way you've followed the rules and your helping out. Good on you. Where is it by the way?
Near Leighton Buzzard, Stewkley, Wing and Soulbury.
No divisional Championships, are you thinking of British Cycling? Just the discipline champs and some series champs.
Do the race.
Firstly - you're not responsible for other racers' lack of organisation in getting their entries in.
Secondly - they sound like pr!cks.
Thirdly - why are you even on the internet? Get out training so you can open a massive can of whoop arse on them come race day.
🙂
Old maxim:
Everyone has an arsehole, no-one needs another.
On that basis those whining would be entrants should not be made welcome.
So they're complaining about racers who apparently aren't as good as them getting the places, if they're so fast why didn't they apply in time then?
They can do one 🙂
I would ride you entered well after the entries went live its not your fault others didnt
Go for it, they had the chance to enter long before you did. Truth is, they probably didnt want to enter because they arent good enough so left it late on purpose so the race was full and now they can moan and whinge to their hearts content. Would be hilarious if the organisers created a few more entries....
Chapeau!
Thirdly - why are you even on the internet? Get out training so you can open a massive can of whoop arse on them come race day.
On the road after work for 2 1/2 hours a night, felt knackered today so pootled on the turbos, but I will beat myself with a Birch branch and rub salt in my eyes to compensate.
Ride - and enjoy 8)
As an organiser i know you cant please everyone and your entry is legit so dont be spooked by the moaners ...
You surrendering one entry wont appease anyone so just enjoy the ride, even by finishing last (im pressumingyou wont !!) you still beat the moaning minnies by getting an entry in on time - and as we all know, preparation is everything 8)
Well done for helping out.
Also were they all expecting their invitation to participate to be hand delivered????
Know the guy who got 2nd at Oceania's on Sport Mens XC - why because he entered and got himself there (only 2 did but he has the medal 🙂 ) Go enjoy and have fun.
It seems like those who think they are better racers already lost the qualifying race.
In any case, assuming the entry rules aren't changing, what's to say that the next rider on the waiting list (if there is one of those) isn't slower than you anyway?
This self apointed "old guard" sound like the people/attitude that put me off road racing when I was 16. I'd not do them any favours. They'll not thank you for it and in my experience (which is limited) they do the sport more harm than good.
Go ride and if the opportunity presents, TEAR THEIR LEGS OFF. 😀
To finish first - you must first finish. And before that - get your entry in.
If your club has gone out of its way to conceal the entry process by not publicising it in the usual places then you have reason to feel sheepish, otherwise you've as much right to enter as the next bloke.
A sight more right than some of the sponsored pay-drivers in F1.
IIRC the dates went up around January on the LVRC website, stating entries via www.riderhq.com prefered. If not SAE with printed entry form.
I entered March.
We have got police permission to up the numbers in each race from 80 to 100.
As with all races there will be a good percentage of 'no shows' yet those having a hissy fit consider themselves to be above entering as a reserve, where there are places left in three of the four races.
I've always got a race when entered as a reserve. My last LVRC road race this year was attended by less than 50% of the entered riders.
****'em off out training.
I've just been to have a look at the LVRC website, as I'm thinking about trying to race this season, and from the discussion on there I'm wondering if I've already left it too late to enter any races! There clearly is a big issue if races are filling up months in advance - I'd be racing A/B and have never raced LVRC, hence I'd be one of the "mainly among the A/B categories and consists of novice riders who have lots of money and being inspired by GBs success in 2012 are kitting themselves up to a professional standard and entering our events because they cannot hack it in BC races". Which is a slightly bizarre comment, as if you're in your early 40s you're hardly going to be a "regular rider". Though I've raced BC races many years ago, and won't bother going out if I didn't think I could hack it in those (finish in the bunch rather than win, but then I never used to win). I think the suggestion to open entries later is a good one to put off those who enter everything months in advance and then don't turn up.
Not that that changes anything about what I said above - you haven't done anything wrong, oldgit.
Well the big days here.
I don't know what folk were worrying about as the field is star studded, I am the lowest of the low today.
It's going to be hard, even though racing has gone well this year, mostly top tens and one win. That said these guys beat me by a margin, and more often than not I'm well ahead of the next bunch. Too good for one and not good enough for the other.
Race starts at 2pm, it's going to be blistering.
smash it!!!
If you're not gonna win it, then attack early on - you'll get into all the race reports anyway, and you may just make it work!
Nice one chuffed your racing! Good luck mate!
****'em and ride it. It may teach the moaning old gits to be a bit quicker in getting their entries in next time.
spin like a boss!
Yay! Have a fabulous day and enjoy every minute of it! Go kick a**!
Do a Tommy, pop off the front, turn like a Dorset Knob, let your tongue flap like a Donkey, then roll over the line knowing you looked like a hero.
The very best of luck, enjoy and check your tan lines later..
😆
Good luck. Your fan club is cheering you on 🙂
Came back to the thread to see if you survived....
Did you? 🙂
Sadly not. Royally outclassed and dropped.
Strangely it wasn't tough like I expected, it was the constant turning of the screw.
I had expected to suffer on the two climbs each lap, but I was more than fine on those.
There was a fast flat section were the group went single file every lap due to the pressure. I had a little incident there that caused a stall and the line just slipped away from me.
Too many elites and 1st cats showing what they can do, it was the nationals after all.
Time to re assess, train harder and loose weight and try and step up a notch or kick back and enjoy regionals.
Racing crits Tuesday and another road race Sunday, that's regional so I'll see how i do.
Todays 100k was a stroll in the park
There was a fast flat section were the group went single file every lap due to the pressure. I had a little incident there that caused a stall and the line just slipped away from me.
Yeah, flat's are harder - you drop off the pace and suddenly the guy in front is 10m away, 20, 30... On the climbs the advantage of being sat on someone's wheel is a lot less, you're going slower and the aerodynamic advantage is minimised.