[Closed] Big chains, locks and wall anchors......recommendations

I would recommend this place as a good starting point.

http://securityforbikes.com/

They have a lot of excellent information about chains, locks and anchors.

I would start my search at one of the many online motor bike accessory dealers. Motor bike security is far more advanced than cycle security IMHO.

I'd ask them what they recommend. You could have the biggest chain in the world but if it doesn't meet their insurance criteria of being approved by a particular company then they won't pay.

I have a Torq ground anchor, 16mm Pragmasis chain and a Squire SS65CS padlock. When my garage was broken into, the bike thieves preferred to saw through a titanium frame to steal the bike for parts.

What have they changed?

http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=18

The ak47 of security chains

Now 2k max on bikes

What kind of set ups have people got?

Pragmasis chains get very good reviews, their ground anchors are also very good too and they also supply decent quality Squire locks ( all Sold Secure silver and gold rated so the insurance companies approve their use)

Will a 16mm x 5 or 6 metre chain be totally unmanageable?

Toolstation is your friend!

I've got Almax 19mm Immobiliser Series IV Uber and Squire SS65CS Lock on my motorbike very good bit of kit, mtb lives in the house 😉

Kryptonite stronghold ground anchor with a krptonite new york fahgettaboutit chain.

Pragmasis from Security for bikes (13mm is most suitable) or Almax chains with squire lock, from the videos I've see All other chains can be cut in under a minute so are a waste of money

http://securityforbikes.com/products.php?cat=Ground+Anchor%2C+Chain+and+Lock+Deals

Can't you bring them into your house. One in the kitchen, one in the hall etc. My missus is so understanding, She only bitches...all the time.

2nd nealy's advice, 13mm in reality is all you want to place between frame and forks and wheels. You will never eliminate the problem, only make it more hassle than it is worth or make another bike an easier target. Anything above 13mm would mean cutting frame would be much quicker - as previously stated. I went with Pragmasis too and spend roughly £100 a year on locks. I have several years worth and unlike bikes they do not wear out or become out of vogue. Also mix up the type of lock used on the bike.

I thought the M+S changes were only for NEW policies - if you simply rolled on yours then it was 5K, or something very high.

M+S changes are now for new and existing customers - see other thread which was on the main page

Wally to summerise the other thread.

Previously if you rolled over your insurance on the renewal price then you kept the original terms and conditions, if you felt this price was too hefty then canceled and took out a new policy the 4K limit on any individual item was reduced to 2K and i am unsure if bikes were covered in that.

From your next renewal there will be a policy update to align all policys with the lower individual item limit, however you can still list the bikes as individual items at an additional expense.

OP, i'd recommend going for 2 or 3 anchor points and chains and locking the bikes in pairs. One thing i have found since locking mine up is it is a PITA getting to the bike at the back of the pile once they are all locked together.

A 16mm chain is a BIG chain, it will also be very heavy and if constantly being moved over delicate bike parts or frmaes may damage them if you are clumsy. 13mm is what i use and it is a big chin in comparison to any you will see in a bike shop. You could get a much more practical set up with 2 or 3 of the 13mm chain, lock, anchor packages rather than 1 long 16mm chain, lock, anchor deal.

I went with Pragmasis - they were very helpful and I have ended up with a very chunky chain.

I tried to engage with Almax a number of times but I found their customer service woeful - they repeatedly just ignored my (reasonable) request for a bit of advice as to what I should buy.