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I'm yet to use bib shorts, and like the idea of no bunching and no draughtyarse. However, there are a couple of things stopping me from buying:
1) Why are they so expensive? they seem inexcusably pricey to me compared to other pieces of clothing.
2) Can you get away with 1 winter full length pair using 5 days a week commuting, using separate padded shorts under? I can't afford 5 pairs of £60 bibs!
3) Are there any semi waterproof + thermal/fleece lined winter ones? I tried aldi ones which I took back due to the fit of them - the padding was completely at the front and I ended up not sitting on any of it, however the material was really good - stopped me getting wet in a shower, and felt warm and cosy inside.
I was looking at some dhb 3/4 length shorts today with much the same thoughts.
£35 Not too pricey.
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/dhb-vaeon-roubaix-padded-34-bib-tight/
2 pairs of bibs and wash alternate days? I wouldn't want padded shorts beneath padded bibs myself!
I know you can definitely get wind proof bib tights, Ribble do good deals and I think UK-10 gets you a discount at Wiggle at the moment.
Having tried on a few brands of bib shorts in my more lycra phase I found Gore to be generously padded (in the right place too) and well cut.
Pearl Izumi make wind/waterproof bibs. They are very warm, but saw me through all of last winter. The number of required pairs depends on your hygiene, commute and tolerance 😉
Endura Stealth bibs are warm, waterproof and not padded.
Neither are they cheap - but you'd only need one pair.
I"ve got a couple of pairs of Lusso bib tights, 'Roubaix' and 'Max Repel'
Roubaix is most days, warm but not too thick. Max Repel is waterproof and thermal.
Fit is good on both, pad is thin but in the right place and doesn't move, £45/£50 respectively.
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Brands.aspx?BrandID=761
Another possibly more flexible option to tights are knee/leg warmers.
Generally warm and water resistant, and very flexible - easy to remove if you get too hot, easy to keep in the bag/pocket for if you're cold and want some extra warmth.
I have some Endura and Pro Vision ones, thoroughly excellent.
Cheers, Rich
Have a look at Russo and DHB both are very keenly priced and well made.
The fit for someone with chicken legs (me) is spot on.
Ref your 2nd point, you can get bib-longs without a pad and wear shorts underneath but kind of defeats the object of bibs not cutting in at the waist.
I use unpadded roubaix/fleecy lycra bib tights over (padded) bib shorts. That way only the shorts need washing after every ride, the tights will lst a bit longer.
DHB bib shorts are good and not too pricey.
Anyone know what the fit is like on the dhb 3/4 bib shorts?
I've got some dhb undershorts which are great but the sizing seems very small. I had to buy one size larger than normal to get a good fit (one size bigger than their own size chart suggested so not just me being fatter than I realise 🙂 ).
I've been looking at this and both gore and endura do a thermal bib long without a pad,(cheaper than the one with pad).
So you could use different padded shorts underneath..
It's all expensive though!!
+1 for DHB.
Roubaix=fleecy and warm.
For this winter I bought a couple of pairs of full length unpadded tights, one 'normal', one Roubaix. I'll wear these over my padded short and 3/4 bibs. I've got some padded long bibs too, but thought these would give me more flexibility and let me keep using my shorter ones, rather than spending £60 a pop on 3-4 pairs only to use them for a couple of months a year.
using nice bum cream (antibac / etc) helps keep them fresher for multi use.
also as above knee / leg warmers offer lots of flexibility with a pair of bib shorts...
ps don't ever have food poisoning and wear bibs.... access speed is just not enough
I would get one pair of winter bib tights (unpadded), either windproof or showerproof, one pair on padded 3/4 roubaix bib shorts and one pair of normal padded bib shorts. Just swap between the shorts and 3/4 on mild days and wear the winter tights over either on cold days.
+1 for DHB bib stuff, I would say the fit is 'normal', fairly generous compared with Assos and Italian make kit and more on par with Specialized stuff. I rate my DHB Aeron Pro shorts as highly as my Assos Unos and Castelli Free Races - for just commuting miles though you could get away with a cheaper model in the range with a less comfy pad.
+1 for DHB bib stuff, I would say the fit is 'normal'
So does yours tally up with the size chart on this page?
> http://www.wiggle.co.uk/dhb-vaeon-roubaix-padded-34-bib-tight/
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I'm a Large going by that (36" waist, 6ft2)
With a 34" waist, and 6ft, I fit DHB medium bib shorts, bib longs and bib 3/4's perfectly.
Bib shorts - great
Bib 3/4's - great
Bib roubaix longs - My pair are from a dodgy model a couple of years, and have problems with zip pullers and stitching, but I understand have improved since.
The fit on all is great and the pads are comfy.
Bib longs with extra weather protection - I've had these highly reccomended:-
I went bike touring with only 2 pairs of bib shorts. Wear one, wash the other. Easy! Depending on how long your commute is you could get away with a few days without washing. Depends how much of a tramp you are 😀
When commuting I used to wear padded bib shorts or occasionally padded regular shorts with unpadded bib longs over the top. Changed shorts every day longs would normally do a week unless they got a soaking. Did still mean that I needed at least 2 pairs of shorts and preferably 3 so that i wasn't washing cycle clothing every night.
You can get bib longs in all sorts of materials, including different weights of fleece lining for cold weather and ones with waterproof panels to keep you (a bit) dryer.
Cheaper alternative would be bib shorts and leg warmers but I reckon they are more of a spring/autumn compromise rather than a full on all weather solution.
If you honestly think you're going to be commuting for the foreseeable future then get the best you can reasonably afford. Mine are well over 8 years old which included four winters of heavy rotation and look as good as new.
The full length versions of the dhb Vaeon got a pretty decent review on road.cc the other day by the way:
http://road.cc/content/review/68586-dhb-vaeon-roubaix-bib-tights