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Bearing pullers/presses (Orbea Rise)

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I need to replace quite a few of the bearings on my Rise. I've got a puller and slide hammer (which I guess should do most of them) but not any presses for the size of bearings these need.

Also, I'm thinking something gentler than a slide hammer might be best for the chain stays.

Any recommendations?

Has anyone used www.bearingprotools.com do bike specific kits. Their set of presses for the Rise is only £50 which seems a bargain given there are 4 different bearings.

The RRP Kit is £60 just for the handles then c£25 for each set of install shims - so £160. plus another 25 per bearing for removal tools. Then there are sets like this on Ebay <£40 that comes with a big range of adaptors.


 
Posted : 18/01/2023 6:47 pm
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I got the Bearing Pro Tools set for my Jeffsy - worked very well.


 
Posted : 18/01/2023 6:59 pm
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I like the bearing pro tools. I use them with the thrust bearings and a BSC tools press handle (as it looks nice)

I've also got some RRP presses


 
Posted : 18/01/2023 7:05 pm
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I've done all mine on the occam which is essentially the same design as the rise. The only thing I needed the slide hammer for was removing the linkage arm which has special loctite on it. I think I have the lifeline set of drifts and press which did the job fine.

The circlip on the NDS chainstay was tricky but they may have changed the design on that for the rise.


 
Posted : 18/01/2023 7:08 pm
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@davros

tell me more. The Occam is exactly the same in terms of bearing design - stupidly I'd only been looking for guides to doing the bearings on the Rise.

I figure this type of extractor will work for the chanteys and the linkage bearings
https://www.bearingprotools.com/collections/bearing-pullers-single/products/bearing-puller-wind-out-type

but that I'd need to use the slide for the bearings actually in the frame

Any tips or things to look out for? I've ordered the weird loctite that's meant to be used on the linkage axle but mine came off with a few taps from a mallet


 
Posted : 18/01/2023 7:31 pm
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You've had a lucky escape then as the linkage took some serious effort with the slide hammer on mine. But I've read others were able to release it by hand.

Pretty sure I will have used my kinetic tool for the chainstays. Like this, but not the same size: https://www.kineticbikebearings.com/frame-pivot-bearing-removal-installation-tool-for-6001-bearing-12x28x8mm.html

And for the main frame bearings I will have used expanding collet extractors, cheapo eBay ones that come with the slide hammer.

The retaining ring/circlip was a total pain in the arse. I finally got it off with a small flat head screwdriver with a twisted head.

The only bearings I didn't replace are the mini seatstay/linkage ones which are obviously very well shielded.


 
Posted : 18/01/2023 8:02 pm
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Either the inner or outer mini bearings are notchy on mine.


 
Posted : 18/01/2023 8:14 pm
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Another bearing pro tools fan, had all the right ones for my Hightower and will now be getting the needed drifts to do my sentinel and rise. Makes the job nice and easy in terms of pressing in the bearings.


 
Posted : 18/01/2023 8:18 pm
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Having just found myself with a pair of Rises in the garage I should probably get something to start doing bearings myself.

I’ll keep an eye in this thread and get the recommended kit 🙂


 
Posted : 18/01/2023 8:36 pm
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You’ve had a lucky escape then as the linkage took some serious effort with the slide hammer on mine. But I’ve read others were able to release it by hand.

Pretty sure I will have used my kinetic tool for the chainstays. Like this, but not the same size: https://www.kineticbikebearings.com/frame-pivot-bearing-removal-installation-tool-for-6001-bearing-12x28x8mm.html
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And for the main frame bearings I will have used expanding collet extractors, cheapo eBay ones that come with the slide hammer.

The retaining ring/circlip was a total pain in the arse. I finally got it off with a small flat head screwdriver with a twisted head.

The only bearings I didn’t replace are the mini seatstay/linkage ones which are obviously very well shielded.

Lucky escape doesn't even begin to cover it..  When I had the Occam and was replacing bearings, the instructions called for the linkage to use a certain loctite.. I looked it up, and it was a 'permanent bond for friction fit surfaces, only removable with heat >200C', I asked the dealer I bought the bike from, and they agreed that this must be a mistake and to just use regular 'pressfit bearing loctite'

Hopefully your instructions have been updated or there are a bunch of Occam's etc. out there with permanently bonded linkages.!!!


 
Posted : 18/01/2023 8:55 pm
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Loctite 638 is what the occam blue paper states so it's what I used. Probably explains why it was so hard to remove.

This is one of the strongest retainers Loctite produce. 100% Genuine product direct from Henkel.
Maximum strength, high-temperature resistance retainer, used widely in industry for metal bonding including passive substrates (e.g. stainless steel). Tolerates minor contaminants, including industrial oils
Best resistance to dynamic, axial and radial loads. Service temperature range: -55°C to +150°C. Prevents loosening and leakage from shock and vibration


 
Posted : 18/01/2023 9:14 pm
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Lucky escape. I’d ordered some 638. So what’s “ordinary Loctite”. I’ve only ever used the regular blue threadlock.


 
Posted : 18/01/2023 11:02 pm
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Fyi https://www.emtbforums.com/, someone on there has done a really detailed post re orbea rise bearing replacement.

https://www.emtbforums.com/threads/part-2-orbea-rise-lower-main-linkage-axle-and-bearing-service.26630/

There is also a part1


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 8:37 am
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Fyi  https://www.emtbforums.com/ , someone on there has done a really detailed post re orbea rise bearing replacement.

https://www.emtbforums.com/threads/part-2-orbea-rise-lower-main-linkage-axle-and-bearing-service.26630/
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There is also a part1

What a great write up!  Picking up a new Orbea next week, will keep that book marked


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 9:25 am
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@captain_bastard
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It's really not. Thats what I'd got printed off and was following to strip my bike down (for which the instructions are really good) but then you get to 'and if your bearings actually need replacing rather than just regressing that's beyond this guide and you'll have to find that info somewhere else'


 
Posted : 19/01/2023 9:51 am

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