[Closed] Bear Grylls

Thats supposed to be a good way to keep warm.

Just read that back. Sounds a bit stupid. Meant the snow bit.

He's a morron. Wouldn't last 2 minutes when it came to it.

I hope Wills and kate call the monkey BEAR ? prob not thought ?? ha ah

Poor mans Ray Mears!

I read one of his books & my respect for him went up about 2 notches. Still rather be stranded in the middle of nowhere with Ray Mears though. At least the food would be cooked & taste of....whatever it was!

Bruce parry, bear and Mears on a weekend away with Grant Mitchel thats a stag do ??

I would rather be with Ray as well. He looks like someone that could tough it out in the harsh environment of a 5 star hotel cocktail lounge and all you can eat buffet.

He's a wuss.Has a hotel to go to on most of his tv escapades.
It's all a blag.

Aye you can tell Ray doesn't go hungry, my Mrs calls him 'the fat bloke who eats leaves' 😀

I know his Mrs too cos she's from my home village!

Hes a plonker, proper / proffesional mountaineers treat him as a complete joke.

I have his book, look into it an you'll find nothing in there is true even down to him being the youngest brit to climb Everest.

It's made for telly. He's no Ray Mears.

Classic real or fake? you decide...

or this one...

Seriously, is that what counts as impressive nowadays? I did that when I was about twelve, in Maine. The water is cold, but you're not in it for long, and then when you get out as long as there's no wind you warm up pretty fast - and the snow thing is standard survival technique, it dries you off very quickly.

I've been in a Mcdonds in Scotland and Ray Mears was in there, he didn't even look at the menu he knew exactly what he was having, he was with a bunch of blokes who were all taking the piss out of him, he was having to assist his mates as clearly they didn't know what to order !

He even maxed up his fries and drink,

It was hilarious the blokes he was with were brutal .............

You wouldn't find Les Hiddins aka the Bush Tucker Man in McD's...

I'm a particular fan of the episode where Bear parachutes into some tropical rainforest and then proclaims that he was probably the first human ever to have been where he was... depsite the fact a film crew had filmed him from the ground landing.

I haven't seen a lot of his oeuvre, but one that impressed me was where he was running along with a rope coiled over his shoulder - he got to a waterfall, tied off the rope, then abseiled down. Next shot, he's running along with the rope coiled over his shoulder again, after it magically untied itself at the top...

http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=38684

http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=67056

The video on that second link is hysterical 😉

Bruce parry, bear and Mears on a weekend away with Grant Mitchel thats a stag do ??

😆

When i as younger I went on a ray mears bush craft course he spent the entirety of it eating mcdonalds and,his opening speech was he always carried a zippo and a knife. his crew laughed at himand muttered something about a caravan but i was far to excited to play with a zippo and aknife.

There all phonies.

now this guys good to watch, Rob Bredl

In fairness to Bruce Parry, and unlike Bear Grills and Ray "fatty" Mears, I don't think he pretends to be anything he isn't?

He just goes to places and meets interesting people, and his only survival skill seems to be that people seem to like him.

I'd love to see Ray Mears and Bear Grylls dropped off in a jungle about 20 miles apart and then only one of them is allowed out, kinda like the running man. I reackon bear wouldn't hesitate to skin ray alive before eating his brains cold and wearing his skin as a coat. Ray though would hunker down and hide and perhaps trap bear when he came through, before cooking him with some wild mushrooms and tarragon.

I don't understand the hate.. .Yes he initially pretended he was roughing it when he wasn't but it's all open now that he is presented with scenarios etc.

If nothing else the work he is doing is pretty fun to watch and he approaches things in a more lively and interesting manner than the other presenters of the same genre.

With regards to the people that think he wouldn't survive if it was real... He used to be a combat survival instructor for 21 SAS so he could mix it with our armed forces elite.

In Rays defence he often claims he isn't into 'survival'. He prefers to learn from and live like the indigenous population to eat well, not just survive. In the UK that would include stuffing your face with Big Macs

When i as younger I went on a ray mears bush craft course he spent the entirety of it eating mcdonalds and

In Rays defence he often claims he isn't into 'survival'. He prefers to learn from and live like the indigenous population to eat well, not just survive. In the UK that would include stuffing your face with Big Macs

When it comes down to a real survival situ, Ray Mears would last longer.

That is probably true, as above he does work on living properly like the locals to exist. Bear is more about rushing out of the area and back to civilisation.

Thats supposed to be a good way to keep warm.

I find putting a coat on and not jumping into a frozen lake has served me very well over the years.

lol....dreams ruined!

With regards to the people that think he wouldn't survive if it was real... He used to be a combat survival instructor for 21 SAS so he could mix it with our armed forces elite.

this

for the folk who think his TV show was a con..?

for gods sake grow up.. star wars isn't real either

With regards to the people that think he wouldn't survive if it was real... He used to be a combat survival instructor for 21 SAS so he could mix it with our armed forces elite.

I don't think so. He only did a couple of years at 21 (TA) SAS before breaking his back, had no rank and certainly wouldn't have been an instructor. Mears actually has instructed combat survival on UKSF selection.

ah well.. so he was only 21 SAS (TA) and not an instructor..

my mistake, the bloke's obviously a useless ****

I don't think so. He only did a couple of years at 21 (TA) SAS before breaking his back, had no rank and certainly wouldn't have been an instructor. Mears actually has instructed combat survival on UKSF selection.

Rank doesn't necessarily mean he didn't instruct, he was most likely the troop specialist in that area, he was also a combat medic and various other things.

And although it was TA SAS, they still had to pass selection which he gets my respect for.

Lofty Wiseman seems the most genuine of the common 'survival experts' to me. I can remember reading his book when I as about 12 before going out to catch a rabbit / next doors cat, etc. to eat.

om nom nom... what sauce for next door's cat..?

And although it was TA SAS, they still had to pass selection which he gets my respect for.

Yep. It's not (or anywhere near) regular selection though. If the reservists want to serve with 22, they still have to go through the full enchilada. 21/23 are generally not regarded as "tier 1" SF.
I will say this for the bloke; he's a marketer extraordinaire.

I spose for many people, the regular career path after breaking your back is disability living allowance..

fair play to the fella

Can't blame someone for making a living!

Mears is just into knowing and understanding stuff though, which gets my respect. He probably could survive in a survival situation, but that doesn't mean he has to show off about it or live like that all the time. No point in going over the top, why not eat at a restaurant if it's there?

He only did a couple of years at 21 (TA) SAS before breaking his back...

Yeah, and we know what a bunch of wusses they are! I mean, not like anyone's ever died during the selection process. 🙄

People have died doing TA basic training and that's pretty much a camping trip in green kit.

yunki - Member

for gods sake grow up.. star wars isn't real either

It was in a galaxy far away and a long time ago so how so do you know?

I asked Ray Mears (at a Q&A session) how he got so fat living off leaves and berries, he said the bulk of his earnings came from corporate talks and 'survival' weekends with executives that were always extravagantly catered and he couldn't resist a Vol au vent.

So now you know

Bear Grylls is also the current Chief Scout. Frankly, I think he makes a pretty good role model for the yoof of today, think it's only keyboard warriors who feel the need to have a go at him

[i]I asked Ray Mears (at a Q&A session) how he got so fat living off leaves and berries, he said... [/i] "Come here and say that." ? 😆

Wow - a lorra hate for these men .I was proper impressed he shows you how to survive if needed to on a mountain/ forest where we ride regular. i reckon he could beat the shit out of all of us and we wouldn't see it coming .great program Whether its a fake i don't care.How do you fake jumping through frozen ice ? who cares if there is a towel out of shot .The man jumped in a frozen frickin lake - that's hard core 🙄

Bear Grylls is also the current Chief Scout. Frankly, I think he makes a pretty good role model for the yoof of today, think it's only keyboard warriors who feel the need to have a go at him

TBH, taking a step back. You know you are right. He helps inspire people, he entertains etc etc.

Go into a Gordon Ramsey restaurant. Is HE cooking for you? Its entertainment, inspiration and ultimately gets youth out there hopefully.

After all, the alternatives are Bieber, people who say 'yo ****er' alot in rap vids. No contest IMO.

This was really a rum truffle laced with apple juice, so I'm told

Never done ice breaker drills?

I can assure you there are no towels. I don't remotely dislike the chap. His programs are more "look at the bad shit I can do" than proper survival advice.
I was just throwing light on his "SF" past. There seems to be a common belief is that he was a black suited Hereford door kicker, which he wasn't.

Wow - a lorra hate for these men .I was proper impressed he shows you how to survive if needed to on a mountain/ forest where we ride regular.

He doesn't. Lots of the stuff he suggests is actually really, really bad advice.

I think he makes a pretty good role model for the yoof of today, think it's only keyboard warriors who feel the need to have a go at him

Yeah, teaching them that if they are good at self publicity and not embarrassed about constantly bullshitting, they can do anything they want.

I asked Ray Mears (at a Q&A session) how he got so fat living off leaves and berries, he said the bulk of his earnings came from corporate talks and 'survival' weekends with executives that were always extravagantly catered and he couldn't resist a Vol au vent.

If true, I now have even more respect for him 🙂

The man jumped in a frozen frickin lake - that's hard core

Is it hells bells. I've seen wobbly 80 year old Finnish people swimming in frozen lakes, not just jumping in and out. Done it myself in very nearly frozen lakes too.

Lots of the stuff he suggests is actually really, really bad advice

Mears's actual survival advice is very simple. Stuff like stay with your jeep, someone will most likely miss you and come and find you. I went on one of his courses (he wasn't there sadly) and in survival terms the top tip for starting fires was carry matches or a lighter, and keep them dry. Messing about with sticks is just for fun and interest.

grum.. how come you're so hate-filled..?

I see you pop up on loads of threads hating this, or despising that, or denouncing everything as shit..

are you ok..?

grum.. how come you're so hate-filled..?

I see you pop up on loads of threads hating this, or despising that, or denouncing everything as shit..

are you ok..?

Really - like what? Links?

Sorry I don't spaff over [s]Edward[/s] 'Bear' - I don't hate him though. Where did I say I hated or despised him (or anyone else for that matter)? I just think he's a bit of a bullshitter.

Quite a comical over-reaction on your part though. 🙂

are you ok..?

links..!?
I'll just check my dossier.. 😆

have you really not noticed yourself though..?

Bush tucker man for me...although if you ate ray mears you could last a bit longer in the bush.

links..!?
I'll just check my dossier..

have you really not noticed yourself though..?

Yeah, links - you know, like these:

http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/that-awful-shocking-terrible-horrible-realisation
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/grown-men-and-games-consoles
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/crappy-day
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/bastards

That awful, shocking, terrible, horrible realisation...

that STW has turned you into a bit of a nob..

Before I started posting here, I had a tendency towards being a bit animated in a discussion, perhaps even surly on occasion and a wobbly drunk but I had very little to prove..

Now I find myself almost unbearable

I try to avoid mixing with others offline any more, as I find myself looking for the flaws in every utterance, and I'm often completely overwhelmed with an irrational need to be right..

😛

You have grum all wrong! He's a moosic [url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/more-free-jazz-for-dezb ]lover[/url] 😀

by coincidence I'm halfway through a tedious 16 minute Ginger Baker drum solo! (but I digress)

maybe I'm just naturally attracted to the sorts of threads that bring out the worst in 'im..

sorry Grumble.. 😳

Prob not safe for work

That is funny 😆 Can't watch it all

Hmmm

survive a plane crash with no hope of rescue for weeks.

A) survive crash only with Ray Mears or Bear Grylls.

B) survive crash with STW forumites.

Which choice would be the best to live through it 🙂

Lofty Wiseman has suggested a survive off, all 3 dumped on a desert island with no equipment or back up or TV crews.
He reckoned he would eat the pair of them and Ray would keep him going for food for ages 🙂

P.S.
i pick A as best chance of living, i reckon B would become a debate on what to do so epic that most would starve to death or dehydrate before any action would happen.....bit like Lord of the flies but with adults 🙂 and a bit more murdering out.

I'd pick C) Bruce Parry, you might still die, but at least you'll have an enjoyable time of it.

Best go google Bruce, haven't heard of him.

If down under, then forget Ray/lofty/Bear, pray that Les is on the plane or lots of fat americans* to eat 🙂

(*they don't taste like chicken i belive)

lofty is a complete legend.

I think he's entertaining to watch, even though Ray Mears is more than likely a better bet when it comes to survival, he is ****ing boring.

Ever seen Bruce Parry and Simon Ralli in the same room? No, you haven't, have you?

He may be a bit of a fraud but I'd rather more people watched Bear Grylls instead of that Made in Chelsea, or other similar sh*te.

I only get pauperfreeview channels so no Bear Grylls show for me, i belive it's on that rich peoples sky tv.

Ray crops up on Dave a lot though, and he did a few shows with Les, no re-runs of "Bush Tucker man" yet on freeview 🙁

yunki - Member

grum.. how come you're so hate-filled..?

I see you pop up on loads of threads hating this, or despising that, or denouncing everything as shit..

are you ok..?

TBF to grum he hasn't had a good old moan and bitch on a singlespeed/29er/650ber/fatbike/anything tazzy has posted on thread in ages.

😀

I reckon if rather be with Bruce in a survival situation. Seems resourceful, able (albeit maybe with the support of a production crew) to get in with the locals, and actually seems to have served and operated in some remote areas.

Plus he has that friendly thing going on, but look at his eyes - I reckon he'd dispatch both Bear and Ray without skipping a beat.

Lofty once did a butchery exhibition with some senior officers there to observe him passing on the Training. Used every part of the sheep for one thing or another and was left with the genitalia. "Right then what are we going to do with this?" "Cook it" came a response. "No stick pips on it and send it to Sandhurst with the rest of the #%^}{"

I would bet on him coming out on top against the rest. He also though Peter Duncan was a Jessie when he did Duncan dares with him. Another Chief Scout

I met BG once, his Mother Lady Grills used to be a client of mine.. She was always bogging him up.. I found him annoying and only had one 20min meeting with him. 😆

I like Ray and Bruce though.

Ray feeding crocodile on itv now

Met BG .....well sat on his pre event table for his balloon dining record attempt.

As an ex squaddie..I like a bit o banter...he didn't.

Though his ex mil security team did

There are plenty of thinks that can kill you in Darwin. Ray is on the look out for cholesterol.

I think hes a good role model for the kids by doing and introducing the outdoors to them. Its entertainmaint TV and needs to be taken at that value, He was 21 SAS and yes its not the same intense 6 month selection process but you still have to pass an extremely tough criteria.

I've personelly done Ice breaker drills in Skjold, North Norway, It was minus 32C at the time and just being out the water was F%%%%ng Freezing, but the reason why you roll in the snow is to remove as much excess water as possible, It doesnt work that well but anythink to help,the experiance of your body starting to shut down is pretty mental but if you follow the drills and get your core warmed up quick enough you can survive

Mears actually has instructed combat survival on UKSF selection.

This, I've had some cracking grub from holes in the ground turned into ovens! The lamb was lovely although eating undeveloped eggs straight from a gutted chicken was vile 😐

I'm not a fan of Bear, a bit over the top for me.