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First we have Manuel Fumic with baggy shorts in the world cup

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And now we have Marco Arelio Fontana spreading the propaganda as well. Well worth watching as he comes across as solid guy just enjoying what he does. (Very good English too)


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:01 pm
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And the big deal is?


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:09 pm
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First we have Manuel Fumic with baggy shorts in the world cup

He's obviously just insecure about how fat he is (oft-quoted argument of the Lycra evangelists). 🙂


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:11 pm
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Or the size of his weiner


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:13 pm
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Manuel Fumic gets away with it by putting a pair of Marigolds on his feet.


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:14 pm
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And the big deal is?

Personally, nothing, although I foresee some traditionalist kicking up a fuss.


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:16 pm
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They banned skinsuits in DH.
Wander if they'll ban baggies in XC then.


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:18 pm
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Fontana has a point, baggies is really more MTB, XC racing needs to change to gain popularity. Why not start with the shorts...


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:27 pm
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Fontana has a point, baggies is really more MTB, XC racing needs to change to gain popularity. Why not start with the shorts...

Might be "more MTB" in the UK, are you sure that's true in the rest of the world?


 
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Posted : 24/02/2013 7:35 pm
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I just dont find cycling in baggies comfy or practical. Lycra for me ,cant see why you would want baggy clothing on in a speed event like xc


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:35 pm
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[url= ]not really[/url]


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:38 pm
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I rode for a couple of years with baggies in the late 90s. Then I stopped because they were annoying, caught on the saddle, got in the way generally and were just too annoying for words. Haven't used them since.
if you're just bimbling to the shops then I can kinda see the point but then I'll just wear proper shorts and not bother with baggies.


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:40 pm
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That's nothing. Sometimes I wear my baggies on my road bike. Sometimes I even wear them over my thermal tights.


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:47 pm
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[quote=geetee1972 ]That's nothing. Sometimes I wear my baggies on my road bike. Sometimes I even wear them over my thermal tights.

Me too, I also use flats and wear a long sleeved dh top when it's cold. When on the mtb I wear them over my tights and then also wear knee pads, I look seriously rad.


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:50 pm
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if you're just bimbling to the shops then I can kinda see the point

Like the guy in the OP you mean?


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:51 pm
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I'm always confused when people say baggies aren't comfortable tbh. Not really sure how you can get wearing shorts wrong!


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:53 pm
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Good on him for improving the image of the sport. The courses are getting more tech and the races a bit shorter and Lycra doesn't suit that IMO. Hopefully he'll do a few Enduro's too. He's nuts quick everywhere.


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:57 pm
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sometimes baggies, sometimes lycra. choice, it's a beautiful thing


 
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Sometimes I wear my baggies on my road bike. Sometimes I even wear them over my thermal tights.

Hmm. I was pondering the "frozen veg" issue this morning, it being bloody baltic out at 6.30am. It's completely against the rules but baggies over tights would actually solve the problem without necessitating lavatorially-taxing double layers of lycra. Not sure I can bring myself to try it though. 😕


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 7:58 pm
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I'll just wear [b]proper[/b] shorts and not bother with baggies.

You see for some people Lycra is just about practicality, but for some it's a way of identifying themselves to everyone else as [i]serious cyclists[/i], just like shaving legs. 😉


 
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Like the guy in the OP you mean?

I think I saw him outside the Euro Spar in Dolgellau the other day.
He'd just picked up some Immac.
He must have been for a spin round CYB on the way there.


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 8:00 pm
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Stopping for 20 Lambert & Butler and a pasty?


 
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20 Lambert & Butler

10 B&H and a box of Swan Vesta I think.


 
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geetee1972 » That's nothing. Sometimes I wear my baggies on my road bike. Sometimes I even wear them over my thermal tights.
Me too, I also use flats and wear a long sleeved dh top when it's cold. When on the mtb I wear them over my tights and then also wear knee pads, I look seriously rad.

Me three, apart from the bit about looking rad


 
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>The courses are getting more tech and the races a bit shorter and Lycra doesn't suit that IMO.<

Sorry, I just do not understand that statement. I get the whole aesthetic thing and I'll wear baggies over my 3/4 in the Summer but on a practical level they add nothing.


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 8:14 pm
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on a practical level they add nothing.

They help stop the rest of society from laughing at us though.


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 8:18 pm
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Baggies and a Camelback FTW 😉

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>They help stop the rest of society from laughing at us though.<

Granted 😉


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 8:42 pm
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>The courses are getting more tech and the races a bit shorter and Lycra doesn't suit that IMO.<

Sorry, I just do not understand that statement. I get the whole aesthetic thing and I'll wear baggies over my 3/4 in the Summer but on a practical level they add nothing.

They offer more crash protection. Ever binned your hip on a rock in just Lycra? The courses are shorter so the fluid loss from extra sweating isn't such an issue.


 
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Might be "more MTB" in the UK, are you sure that's true in the rest of the world?
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ill ask the rest of the world and then get back to you 😉


 
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Hmm. I was pondering the "frozen veg" issue this morning, it being bloody baltic out at 6.30am. It's completely against the rules but baggies over tights would actually solve the problem without necessitating lavatorially-taxing double layers of lycra. Not sure I can bring myself to try it though.

works on my commute.

i start my commute with a 12 minute road descent, and quite frankly the wind-chill is ferocious at this time of year.

3/4 bibs + thermal tights = cheap and cold.

throw a pair of cheap 3/4 'walking' shorts (from decathlon) over the top = cheap and warm.


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 9:26 pm
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Who actually GAF? Would you feel a little smaller if the guy who beats you wears non skin tight shorts?
He's happy, I did some fun xc (FUN EVENTS not serious stuff) and turned up in baggies and my 5.10 minaars on my feet they seemed to think I was lost... The wind resistance aero thing might be there a tiny bit but not in the margins these guys are doing.

It is possible to get shorts that are comfy that are not lycra and it's alos possible to to get them caught on your saddle (I also use a dropper post and expect to see them in a couple of years if somebody makes a lighter one - or is that cheating too?)


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 9:34 pm
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Baggies over thermal tights is awful. I thought folk quit that malarky around 2006.


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 9:38 pm
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All of the pics of "baggies" on this thread are actually fairly close-fitting and totally appropriate to MTB. The only reason for catching shorts on the saddle, etc is if you're not wearing proper cycling shorts or if you're fat and have bought some that fit your waist but are too big for the rest of you.


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 9:55 pm
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Only those who seek to coordinate their bikes with their clothes need worry.


 
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Baggies over thermal tights is awful. I thought folk quit that malarky around 2006.

if you wear the "right" baggies, they'll never notice tights underneath 😆
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Posted : 24/02/2013 10:15 pm
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Baggies over thermal tights is awful. I thought folk quit that malarky around 2006.

So what's the adequate alternative to this malarky then:
- Baggies over 3/4 thermal tights and frost bite on your calves?
- Baggies over 3/4 thermal tights and wooly socks up to your knees?
- thermal tights without Baggies?
- a kilt?

I mean, I totally agree that Baggies over long tights is a major fashion disaster but to some extent I hope the rest of the world can cope. I can. 🙂

And there is worth:
- Baggies over thermal tights plus Neoprene overshoes. :-))

By the way: nice shorts Rocketdog! What are they?


 
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- Baggies over 3/4 thermal tights and frost bite on your calves?

Less weakness. It's worth keeping knees warm, they're fiddly delicate mechanisms, but calves barely feel the cold (it's how we can wear kilts). I'm shorts and kneepads all year round, not because I'm super-hardcore but because it's actually fine. Can happily post-hole snowdrifts like that.


 
Posted : 24/02/2013 11:39 pm
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insensitivity to cold must be due to too many frost bites when you were young! 🙂

(i.e. shorts as part of school uniform based on calendar not temperature)


 
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The STW diagnosis was that I frostnipped my hand riding in the snow at kinlochleven last year 😉 Nearly recovered now. But my legs do just fine. (went for an ice-ride at glentress earlier in the year, got a pedal in the back of the calf, and it hurt like hell so no loss of sensation even in the cold. Sadly.)

(Only time i've ever regretted riding in baggies was when fort william mud sanded all the skin off the bottom of my thighs. DH pyjamas for me next time!)


 
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I mean, I totally agree that Baggies over long tights is a major fashion disaster but to some extent I hope the rest of the world can cope. I can.

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Bike clothing is a fashion disaster full stop 🙂


 
Posted : 25/02/2013 12:11 am
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it hurt like hell so no loss of sensation even in the cold

oh, good for you!
that it hurt... I mean... it's good that you could feel the pain...
...sounds all wrong, but you know what I mean! ;-))


 
Posted : 25/02/2013 12:16 am
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Bike clothing is a fashion disaster full stop

yes, and it get's even worth when it tries to be fashionable :-))

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Sometimes I wear baggies over my shaved legs, just to confuse people


 
Posted : 25/02/2013 12:41 am
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Sometimes I wear baggies over my shaved legs, just to confuse people

How dare you!?


 
Posted : 25/02/2013 12:47 am
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By the way: nice shorts Rocketdog! What are they

http://www.intrepidapparel.co.uk/mission-shorts-green


 
Posted : 25/02/2013 6:47 am
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For me its baggies all the time over what ever else I'm wearing from winter bibs tights to summer road bike rides
But hardly news worthy.


 
Posted : 25/02/2013 7:23 am
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I've always worn baggies and having just come from skateboarding into mountain biking I'm not sure the whole lycra thing will ever feel natural.

At Uni in the Cannock Chase Christmas Cracker circa 1994 me and a couple of mates got an (dis)honourable mention in MBUK for the wearing of inappropriate clothing :mrgreen: Our inappropriate clothing for riding at a snowy Cannock Chase was cut down combats trousers and Converse/Vans, although it may have been Ben's sleeveless Nine Inch Nails t-shirt.


 
Posted : 25/02/2013 8:44 am
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Same as orangeboy. Quite happy doing the odd xc race in baggies, never actually given it the slightest thought. Who cares (apart from the roadie rigid-rules mindset)?


 
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They help stop the rest of society from laughing at us though.

Love this. The rest of the UK pretty much loath cycling wholesale. Wearing some baggies instead of lycra adds nothing to our cause here in the UK.


 
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