[Closed] Ayup fubared and then bodged back together

sending it back to its owner tomorrow

And about bloody time...........;-)

I can't wait to use them this Thursday.

Don't forget to send me your address so I can the the pennies to you

Have just put the battery on charge so it will be full when you get it .

Very interesting. Nice job. I'd love to see a longer write up on this as i'm considering an upgrade myself. However, I was led to believe that the ay up's battery contained the proper driver circuitry. I this is the case Would this not conflict with the driver in the head unit.

Jon
this was the first time I have had one in bits
I dont know what is in the newer ones but this one had no driver just a resistor to to limit the current so only one setting ON .

now I know how to get in to them easily if I do any more it will be a doddle .

there is no room in the light for any sort of off the peg driver which is why I have put one in the power line ,it could have gone in the battery but it was a new one from smudge and plastidipped so did not want to destroy the coating .

also the o.rings self destructed on taking apart so had to sort of bodge the reassembly a bit and time will tell how well it survives
there will be soon this led board from cutters
[url] http://www.cutter.com.au/proddetail.php?prod=cut992 [/url]
and twinned with this reflector
[url] http://www.cutter.com.au/proddetail.php?prod=cut980 [/url]
which is the same ones I used in this conversion .

so with the led board above the driver is on board so a real easy mod to do for a beam like the pic.

Thanks trout. Interesting about the battery and resistor only arrangement. I think i'll be patient one more year. No point in potentially ruining a perfectly good working light. I may upgrade it after that.

The resistive only approach of Ayup always got to me as a con over battery run times. Start bright and then slowly dim (reducing power drain) without being noticed but extending run time.

Trout.

Nice work there 😉

I'm a bit gob-smacked that the much loved Ay-Ups are resistor controlled/limited.

I assume from other posts here that later set-ups use a bit more hardware ?.

I can help you with the O'Rings, I'll send you a note.

I'd say that this is definately the basis for people to start from if they want to repair their Ay-Ups

🙂

Trout - Did you make it to the post box today?

Yep sure did all charged and ready to go

Don't forget a ride report tomorrow

Trout, have emailed you, let me know if you fancy a crack at reviving a lupine.

Hey up Mark reply sent
I guess it is out of warranty then

Hmm interested in getting my Ay-Ups boosted to, currently they don't throw out quite enough light for a quick descent on the road. I like the tight beam pattern though - does your new reflector diffuse it more?

Ahh...Sir Trout.Do you think it would be poss to mod an Exposure Diablo,upgrading the P7 and gubbins to something with better beam/burn time?
Cheers.

Troutie the light turned up today but I'm not riding so I'll do a couple of test shots across the road for you.

Please email me your address as I owe you a few pennies don't I?

Fuzzy
I will have to let John comment on the beam and intensity as I have no reference point for the ayups
But I would say it is a very tight beam comparing to other lights I have tested.

If it yets the thumbs up from John as a good upgrade I will post up some pics
When and if I do another for some victim

john bloody git I bust a gut to get to the post office yesterday 😉

podium
never had a look at a Diablo but the trouble with the multi LED setups like the P7 is they throw a very floody beam
And finding the right optic/reflector is not easy and the only other led similar is the MCE and that is a similar led to the p7

Having just had a look at one ont net. Depends on the diameter of the front as to what can be done
But something will be possible

Have a set of Ayups - in lay terms, what does this 'upgrade' mean in terms of output/ burn time? Are they being used with the original battery?

It has a new battery from Smudge but it is the same voltage I believe but the amp hour may be different

It should be a brighter light and a longer burn time , Sounds good but as I have never played with one before it is uncharted territory for me .

So as a user what is the burn time for your ayup from full to empty

Back garden all new Ay Up trout style test

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This the full power of Trouties Lunem Liberator

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My new and massively improved Ay Ups

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And here's the now blinded Archie who's now looking for compensation off Troutie 😉

To sum up Troutie http://troutie.com/ has made my Ay Ups at least 3 times brighter.

Another bonus is that Trouties still not sent me his address to send my money to.

trout - Member
So as a user what is the burn time for your ayup from full to empty

The Ay Up battery I send to Smudge first off which we now know there was nothing wrong with it claimed to be 6 hours. It did run out once on a long night ride after I forgot to recharge it between rides so 6 hours is about right for me.

Smudge - will your new battery you did for me be the same or better?

I really should write stuff down as I have forgotten what it was drawing from the battery .

I am guessing here but as the leds are getting nearly 1 amp you may only get 3 hours burn time .
as I had no data on what the original Ayup was drawing but for it to last 6 hours then they were not powering the leds very hard probably only half an amp maybe .

with the driver I put inline it would be possible to have a half power setting too ( but not for yours John Sorry )

Ooo I like that beam pattern. I've not run mine from full charge to empty in one go but have probably done around 4 hours over 3 rides on a single charge without noticing it dimming (with the stock battery/lights). If that dropped to 3 hours with the new LEDs it wouldn't be a problem for me, I do like the simple on/off with the big rubber button on the battery pack though (rather than having several modes to cycle through).

Thought AyUp claimed to stick the electronics in the battery pack - no?

johnclimber - my gran has a border called archie 😀

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Unlike Trout and his first Ay-Up light here, I've not yet had an Ay-Up light to have a look at.

But, if there were a driver in the Ay-Up battery pack, then surely there'd be no need for the resistor, and you'd get more than one light level ?.

Judging by Trout's pictures and observations, the Ay-Up looks to be simple and very cheap to make.
Also, judging what appears to be included, or not included, in an Ay-Up, you may get 4-6 hours runtime, but the LEDs would dim during that time.

A lot of lights now use clever electronics to sustain a certain voltage to the LEDs, during the running of the light, for as long as the battery may last.

They used to have an FAQ on their site about this - saying that they use just a resistor, because the battery voltage is very close to the LED voltage (so a very small resistor is needed), and the discharge curve of the batteries they use is very close to flat (so hardly any dimming).

I don't know how true that is obviously, and how that affects the efficiency.

Joe

Finally I got out on a proper night ride last night and this time I didn't forget to take these lights with me.

All I can say is Troutie you're a genius.

These all new Ay Ups blasted a perfect spotlight cutting through all lights on show including you're very own flood light Lunem Liberator.

Both lights = perfect night riding lights