[Closed] Arrrrrrgh.... Ive cut my steerer too short.. help please.

17mm!?

Sorry to hear that but that might be ambitious

What frame and forks is it?

Tell me this ain't the Tripster!

Anyway, can you lose a few spacers? Or did you [i]really[/i] do yourself a mischief?

Syntace Flatforce stem?

Otherwise, can you get an new CSU?

How long a stem are you using? If it's short, the 50mm Tioga/bikehut ones are really low stack and might work.

[i]can you get an new CSU[/i]

I assume they're rigid forks?

Jamie - Member
Tell me this ain't the Tripster!

Yup.

17mm is a lot to lose,

A stem may lose you 7mm going to a 35mm one. Headset top cap may lose you 5mm, so you are stumped if you have no spacers to remove.

Need a stem with stack lower than 41mm.
Need a headset cover lower than 16mm.

do smaller frame sized tripsters have a shorter headtube?

Can you find someone with a smaller frame and uncut steerer to swap with?

One of these fit?
http://metallicpoutine.com/shop/headset-bearing-cover-caad10/

7.5mm cover

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Headset-Carbon-Cone-Spacer-Top-Bearing-Cover-1-1-8-Threadless-7-5mm-Gloss-/301085206870?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item461a13a956

and you can get stems which are 30mm stack, so easily doable.

Can probably get away with 15mm..
It is the smallest size 48cm frame so no swapsies.
There are no replacement tripster forks.

Looks like one of these in worst case scenario:

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/bbb-bhp-2021-stem-extender/?lang=en&curr=GBP&dest=1&utm_source=pla&utm_medium=base&utm_campaign=uk&kpid=5360445133

If it it an alu steerer...

You know the steerer doesn't have to quite come up to the top of the stem, don't you?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RAGLEY-STUBBING-60-MM-BIKE-STEM-FOR-1-1-8-STEERER-OVERSIZE-HANDLEBARS-/191144918240?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item2c811ffce0

Ragley stubbing was a I think 31mm stack height

You know the steerer doesn't have to quite come up to the top of the stem, don't you?

I know its savable with lower stack stuff.. just dont know where to find them.

If it it an alu steerer...

The old spank spike stems had super low stack height: http://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/Stems,39/Spank/Spike-Stem,7027#product-specs

Ps just sent you an email about saddle

26mm!

Thanks everyone for the suggestions. It was a complete non-brain engaged moment of forgetting to add on the height of the stem when i had a pen in my hand ready to cut. I momentarily nearly cried.

Rollo.. its for a CX / Road bike / do it all bike.. the spank may not work looks wise

Your forks don't work ANY wise currently... who cares about looks when you're throwing carbon forks in the bin ?

Just buy some new forks. Plenty of full carbon monocoque disk forks around.

30mm stack on this stem

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ie/en/funn-funnduro-stem/rp-prod91491

31 on this

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ie/en/dmr-defy-stem/rp-prod91225

Odyssey do a quite low-stack integrated headset:

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I suppose you could you consider a BMX stem to go with it like this:

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22.2mm bars might be an issue...

How about a DMR "Defy Stem:

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31mm stack height apparently...

Just looking for a cheaper option.. it was quite a special purchase followed by a very special mistake

Ah sorry just realised this is for a tripster so I doubt you want a 50mm DH stem, how about a Thompson X2 - 36mm stack height...

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Give Kinesis a shout? Normally quite helpful, and might be able to suggest something?

http://www.kinesisbikes.co.uk/contact/sales/

If it's any help, i've skimmed a similar type of headset cover down to 5mm depth on a lathe, should open up the choice of stems you can use.

If it in anyway eases your pain, I ruined my rear shock at the weekend, distracted set my torque wrench to ftlb instead of inch.

Slam that stem bearing cover.

http://metallicpoutine.com/shop/headset-bearing-cover-caad10/
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need to buy via a dealer though.

Planet X /On oNe CNC stem has a stack of 35mm.

http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/STOOCNC/on-one-ultralight-cnc-stem

I believe superstar have the same stem

Ragley Stubbing stem has a low stack height (30mm)

Is it the standard tripster fork, what length steerer do you need?

Do you have the offcut? Can you get an aluminium insert bonded in and stick a bit back on?

You know the steerer doesn't have to quite come up to the top of the stem, don't you?

If it's a carbon steerer, it should always be slightly proud of the stem with a spacer above it, to spears the load out over as much area as possible.....

wouldn't one of those steerer expanders be fine for a road/cx bike? Works in exactly the same way as an old quill stem that people use to use back in the day. Cost you about a tenner.

Would this 5mm top bearing cover do the trick??
http://www.cannondalespares.com/Cannondale-Road-Headset-5mm-Top-Bearing-Cover,-KP253/product_detail/3-40270

Which would give me 11mm and just need a lower stack stem of about 35/36mm.. which gives me more options on a stem

Give Matt at Upgrade bikes a call and ask him if they have any spare Tripster forks lying about.

This is the response i had from upgrade earlier today... We actually do not even have enough forks for the amount of frames we have here at present, we are currently running behind with the factory production. So unfortunately, bad news, we cannot help with a replacement fork. We simply cannot get enough of these framesets, let along the forks on their own.

I would get someone to turn a a stepped plug for the top of the fork
Extends 3 inches inside with a slight taper to it, glue it in on the brightside you could included the thread for the topcap in the job

Anyone familiar with AX ligthness??
I have that cap on the far right..
They make the cap on the left which is what i want..
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Ahh bugger, thats a shame. I'm not surprised regarding the frames selling out as fast as they can make them as when i was up at aviemore last week i got talking to a few folk i met by chance when out and about, i allowed them to borrow my Tripster ATR for a couple of hours each ( i got to borrow a nice carbon Colnago and a specialised roubaix) and when they came back they were without a doubt in their minds decided on buying one.

Just view it as the Gods way of saying "buy an Enve CX Disc fork". Or even a Whiskey a Products 15mm TA CX Disc Fork...

Early Xmas prezzie 8)

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[url= http://whiskyparts.co/catalog/forks ]Whiskey #9.[/url]

Just to go back to what Peter was saying, if you get the 17mm will that allow the stem to properly clamp the steerer? just being full carbon, you need to do this things right to reduce the risk of things going bang.

P.S: Stupid 15min edit window.

Whatever option you pick, without a new fork, your bars will probably be too low, the bike not as comfortable as you would like and you ruing the day. What is the steerer length?

To make you feel better, I left nearly £300 of front wheels in the car park last week.

17mm will be totally fine.. 15mm will probably be ok.
I wont know until ive ridden it how it will work.

I bet with a bit of searching you could find that exact fork direct from Taiwan...

I bet with a bit of searching you could find that exact fork direct from Taiwan...

Ebay or anyone know some Taiwanese sites to start looking through?

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.

I don't want to make things more complex but a lot of carbon forks specify that the whole of the stem has to be over the steerer tube and that a 5mm spacer has to be run above the stem too.

Not sure if this is true of yours, though.

I bought a custom titanium frameset from a USA builder, and he cut the steerer too short (by the height of the custom stem). To cut a long story short (no pun intended!) I ended up sending the forks to Mike Burrows, and he machined a ‘plug’ as mickmcd described above. It has the same external diameter as the steerer, and is stepped to be an interference fit when bonded into the steerer. It’s also threaded in place of a star fangled nut. It’s probably stronger than the original steerer. It also lets you specify the exact handlebar height you need.

Would that be possible with a carbon steerer, Deejayen?

will be extra cautious when my tripster gets finalised this weekend.....

Would that be possible with a carbon steerer, Deejayen?

Yep - just make sure you use the right adhesive, but in theory it should be stronger than the steerer itself

Yep - just make sure you use the right adhesive, but in theory it should be stronger than the steerer itself

There you go, Cloudnine. Singletrackworld's resident Mad Carbon Professor, will sort it for you 😀

....seriously, sounds the best option. As at least this way, you won't have the handlebars down near your knees.

Bit of an eeek moment OP.. I'd get the plug machined as above, sounds like a good option and better suited to you needs rather than faff with a new fork..

cloudnine - just thought.....

what size frame are you building?

Mines a 57cm and steerer will need a trim. If yours is a 60cm we may well be able to sort something.

just a thought!

Cool... Who do I contact to do this?

Mines a 57cm and steerer will need a trim. If yours is a 60cm we may well be able to sort something.

OP's is a 48cm.

Cool... Who do I contact to do this?

Someone like [url= http://forum.errl.org.uk/entry.php?356-Repairing-Carbon-Fibre-HQ-Fibre-Products ]HQ Fibre Products[/url]?

HQ Fibre Products
5 Norwich Road
Lingwood
Norwich
NR13 4BH
Norfolk
Tel: 01603 713972
Fax: 01603 713972

...or http://www.carboncyclerepairs.co.uk/index.html

Really sympathise, hope you get it sorted.
I've been paranoid about doing that and probably have too many spacers!

I've just ordered a new frame set and have a spare pair of forks that you could have for peanuts? Email in profile if interested.

Dave

I posted my forks to Mike. They were from a recumbent, and I'm a member of the BHPC (British Human Powered Club) of which Mike is a leading light. However, I'm sure he'll help anyone out. He's manufactured trikes and bikes made from carbon tubes bonded to alloy castings, so he knows what he's doing. He sorted me out really quickly, too - I think I had the forks back a couple of days later. It's best to phone him first, and make sure he can do it, and ask him for a price (very reasonable) so you can send payment with the forks.

Burrows Engineering
4 Bunkell Road
Rackheath
Norwich
NR13 6PX
01603 721700

Was this the OUTLET price 48cm ATP Tripster??

Good price if so :O)

If only I was short.

(have a 57cm coke can tripster and love it)

I have a carbon (disc only) CX fork spare after my frame was warrantied. 3k matt finish and in very good condition as it only had three months use and not a huge amount of miles in that time. Mine's a 58cm frame so I'm pretty sure it'll be long enough (though can measure of course).

It's from a (respected brand) Chinese manufacturer but I wouldn't be after loads for it - drop me an email if you're interested.

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I don't want to make things more complex but a lot of carbon forks specify that the whole of the stem has to be over the steerer tube and that a 5mm spacer has to be run above the stem too.

[url= http://www.kinesisbikes.co.uk/faq/ ]22. How many ‘Stack Washers’ can I use on a carbon steerer?: We recommend 40mm maximum.[/url]

Update.. Forks have gone to Mike Burrows.. £25 to add a 'plug' and should get them back next week.
Todays drama over. All i need to do now is strip a thread.

All i need to do now is strip a thread.

Maybe get the rest of the jobs done at a shop? 😉

...also, Mike Burrows seems to know his onions.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/mike-burrows-cycling-innovator-27010

Mike Burrows seems to know his onions.

Amazing how many people might have carbon disc forks for sale. I might have to do a wanted ad.

been around for a while, didn't he design this

I sold a few of them. They were rubbish. 🙂

The TCR on the other hand was a much better idea.

Dammit, I wish I hadn't seen those Whiskey forks 😕

They were rubbish

Having difficulty finding MB in ref to the mcm or ATX on google, maybe he was just working at Giant when they were made?

Yeah, the ATX was what Rob Warner and a few others were on and the MCM(?) was the carbon posh XC version. I don't actually think that MB was involved with those though - just the TCR and MCR TT frame of the same era.

Dammit, I wish I hadn't seen those Whiskey forks

What, these ones?

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Jamie... stop it!

Now why can't Kinesis do a bolt through version of their Cxd fork? That'd be nice.

It's a shame Giant don't sell the TCX SLR 1 as a frameset.

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Would be tempting. Still mulling over a TCX Advanced here.

I got a guy coming tomorrow, to probably buy my SLR 2 off me. Then it's pre-order city for the 2015 SLR 1 when they are available. Hoping they will come with the [url= http://road.cc/content/news/115210-shimano-introduces-road-hydro-disc-brakes-mechanical-shifting ]Shimano STIs[/url], as the SRAM levers look like Easter Island statues.

They do look good. Got 105 STI and mechs in the spares bin though so I'll probably make do with some BB7's till there's some good deals to be had on the Shimano mechanical hydros.

If you buy a crown race cutter you could shave a few mm off either end of the headtube ?

🙂