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[Closed] Are some tubeless repair kits better than others?

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Had several punctures over the past month that haven't self sealed. I've attempted to repair them with a tubeless repair kit by jamming in the worm thing. Now I'm not sure if it's just bad technique but it's really not as easy to do as people describe. If I put the worm between the needle and fold it back up towards the handle and try and jam it in. I just can't get the worm in. I ended up slimming down the worm by cutting it down the middle them just jabbing at it till it went in. The cuts have been about 3mm.

The kit I got is below. Ignore the description as it's wrong https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Nutrak/Tubeless-Tyre-Repair-Kit/IRIQ

 
Posted : 26/03/2019 7:29 pm
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Are you making the hole round/enlarging it using the supplied round file? If the hole is too small for an anchovie, it should be getting sealed by sealant, how old is your sealant?

 
Posted : 26/03/2019 7:33 pm
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I gave it a quick go with the file but it didn't seem to do much but maybe I should have kept at it for longer.

This week's puncture had sealant which is several months old but last months, fresh sealant didn't help and just dribbled out of my poor repair job over night.

 
Posted : 26/03/2019 7:40 pm
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I'd never had much joy with the various 'bacon strip' offerings, then got a Dynaplug system from states back in 2017 and never looked back

 
Posted : 26/03/2019 7:43 pm
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I like the sticky twiglet ones myself but I can't remember who makes them. Never had a problem with them even without glue and you can cut them in half for twice the value.

 
Posted : 26/03/2019 7:48 pm
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ime the car type worms say 5mm diameter ones are too wide for most punctures, you can get 3.5mm ones on ebay(which are still big) and I tend to use the weldtite ones(about 1mm wide) on thorn etc normal punctures, used the 3.5mm once(I carry both sizes) - but that was fluid spraying out like a hose via a slash.
I coat the the worm with rubber solution before putting it in and on big punctures(like the slash) I put in an inside repair mushroom in when I get the chance.

 
Posted : 26/03/2019 8:20 pm
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Weldtite one is best ime

 
Posted : 26/03/2019 8:22 pm
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Weldtite ones have never let me down

 
Posted : 26/03/2019 8:26 pm
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I also use Weldtite and have never had an issue

 
Posted : 26/03/2019 8:39 pm
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Somewhat contrary to hatter, I found the Dynaplug stuff a massive pain the arse and not effective at all. Probably operator failure, but disapointing nonetheless as it was bloody expensive.

Weldtite, or similar, has worked just fine several times since. I have only been using the narrow anchovies however, not the thicker ones. https://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/radon-tubeless-repair-kit-refill-set-720229

Rasp the puncture a bit, anchovie folded over the prong and covered in a good helping of glue, shove it into the hole, remove prong, have a quick snack whist it all sets, chop off sticky outy anchovy bit, ride away.

 
Posted : 26/03/2019 8:59 pm
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As feared I went to use my bike this morning and there was a puddle of sealant on the floor. Tried again with a plug, had to cut it down the middle as there was no way I was going to be able to jam in nearly a cm when folded. Used glue and gave the tyre a good spin. Probably didn't wait long enough but the plug blew out as I was wheeling the bike out the garage. Now walking to work.

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 7:44 am
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When I have time I'll patch up the other punctured tyre and maybe put some tubes in my old wheels as backups.

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 7:46 am
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Probably didn’t wait long enough but the plug blew out as I was wheeling the bike out the garage.

What sort if pressure are we talking here?!

Recent I very quickly used a wee Lezyne kit (no glue) at the trailside and it held fine. My record is to use a Weldtite kit to seal 4 different holes in one sitting. Not sure if I bothered with glue on that occasion, but as soon as they tyres were inflated I continued down the (rough) trail without issue. 2 of those plugs were still in place over a couple of years later

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 7:55 am
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80psi, it's a road wheel. Went up slowly and span the wheel as there were a few bubbles whilst pumping but they had stopped before 80

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 8:06 am
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IMO i can't see the worm being reliable at 80psi, I use the worm as a quick fix, then when i get home i put a vulcanising patch inside the tyre and shoe goo on the outside, works everytime

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 8:58 am
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For MTB I've had two tyre tears which my old kit of a prong and worms didnt repair, one was by the bead and I didnt expect it to work. The other was bang in the middle of the tread, what I thought would be an easy fix, but wouldnt hold seal or hold air.

I have now picked up a dynaplug racer and am hoping this will work next time this occurs.

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 9:04 am
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For road, Stans and Mavic sealants haven't let me down. I carry a Dynaplug, which I've only had to use once... (as documented on the forum, it failed to assist me because my pump broke, but I think it would've sealed it.)
For patching after the event, Weldtite - the "Superglue" in their patch kits didn't work for me.
I'd go for Hutchinson Rep'Air or [url= https://www.rosebikes.co.uk/rema-tip-top-tt13-tubeless-repair-kit-2674083?product_shape=standard ]TipTop[/url]

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 12:27 pm
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if you want a dynaplug, the carbon one is £20 on tredz, buy an extra 5 plugs at £8.99 and spend an additional £1.01 to get £5 off your order. conti tyre levers are 99p (so £26 overall)
code GSG8WSU3), in stokc and shipped same day, yesterday for me..

works out £3 a hole, damn cheap if you consider having to walk home, or get cold on a wet hillside

clearly the £6 weldtite ones are far better value, maybe not as convenient and a bulkier pack

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 1:00 pm
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Bought the Dynaplug, now its available in the UK without all the duty and Post Office tax faff. Mainly as most of us ride tubeless and well very rarely have problems with tyres not sealing but you never know.. Sure enough on this trip i needed it for a gusher in the rear tyre, very easy to use and sealed the tyre pretty damn quickly tbh and held for the rest of the trip..

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 1:58 pm
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Does the metal spike on the Dynaplug never cause issues? I've got visions of it heading straight for the rim bed if you had another puncture at some point

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 3:48 pm
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The tips are actually pretty blunt on the current versions of the plugs, it's also not solid, more a thin brass 'skin' to help get the plug into the tyre in the first place and hold it whilst it bonds to the tyre.

I was worried about the same and asked Dynaplug about this back when I was considering buying one, they replied saying they've never had an instance of a rim or tyre being damaged or rim tape punctured by their plugs and I can't say I've had any issues with mine, including when used on racy 25 c road tyres, carbon rims etc.

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 4:27 pm
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I wouldn't expect an anchovie to work if you just fed it in to the hole. When it goes in doubled, then you pull the tool back out, it'll cause the bit that's inside the tyre to form a 'w' shaped (illustration purposes only!) Plug that will stop the thing bring pushed or pulled back out.

 
Posted : 29/03/2019 1:48 pm
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Has anyone made some cowboys ones yet.
A bic biro the some rubber plug super glued into some gear cable ends, far cheaper than 5 plugs for £8.99+P&P

 
Posted : 29/03/2019 4:46 pm
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just looking at buying a repair kit and reading this thread with interest, its about a year old now tho.

whats the money-conscious (tight) cyclists repair kit of choice these days, weldtite? and wheres best to buy a kit, ebay?

also some kits seem to have a prong, a file and glue, i understand the prong will be needed, but is the file and glue also needed or does it depend on the kit?

thanks

 
Posted : 15/03/2020 10:17 am
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For the sake of £20 I'd just get the basic Dynaplug.

If it saves one long walk home it's pretty much paid for itself IMHO.

If you really cant stretch to that the Ryder slug plug is a tenner and a nice compact 'fork and anchovy' solution.

 
Posted : 15/03/2020 11:26 am
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Just gone for the Dynaplug route for road use.
Have the Weldtite kit in my mtb bag but never had to use it in 6 years.

 
Posted : 15/03/2020 11:45 am
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For the sake of £20 I’d just get the basic Dynaplug.

id be tempted by that, but everywhere ive seen it its nearer £40? got a link to a £20 kit?

ta

 
Posted : 15/03/2020 12:50 pm
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thanks, ill probably take a chance on that.

cheers

 
Posted : 15/03/2020 7:13 pm
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also some kits seem to have a prong, a file and glue, i understand the prong will be needed, but is the file and glue also needed or does it depend on the kit?

The file is to enlarge the hole so that the plug can fit. A bit counterintuitive I know but if you've the thicker anchovies then it's actually pretty useful.

I'm assuming the glue is something like Loctite Powerflex, i.e. it's a flexible superglue, used to secure the anchovy. Probably not a trailside thing but something to do after your ride when the tyre is cleaned up and dry.

 
Posted : 15/03/2020 7:22 pm
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I was wondering that, I assume you need to clean the surfaces of the cut in order that the glue can set properly?

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 11:54 am
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@13thfloormonk - you aren't putting the glue inside the cut, though some might seep there, but smothering the anchovy.

What I did was cut the anchovy "tail" to about 2mm above the surface of the tyre then smother that with the glue. Probably something like a small button in area. Leave to set. That's it. In cross section it probably looks like that of a volcano with a central plug and slopes leading away.

Although I haven't ridden that bike that much since, the plug and glue are still holding.

Somewhere, I've just looked but can't find the link, is a blog from a bike shop going through the process on road tyres with video. The guy reckons such a fix will last the remaining "normal" life of the tyre but I haven't got that far yet.

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 1:27 pm
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I bought a cheapo off Amazon
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01B8U17FC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

to sort a hole in the bead, worked perfectly... [url= https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/tubeless-tyre-fix-or-ditch/ ]this hole[/url]
Anchovy strips are very thin so maybe not great for MTB tyres. Just reckon the kits are all much of a muchness really.

 
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I'm about to pull the trigger on this Zefal kit. There aren't any reviews as it's just been released but could be worth a punt if, like me, you don't like pockets full of stuff that you hardly ever need.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zefal-Unisexs-Tubeless-Repair-Universal/dp/B07Z8F3FFJ

 
Posted : 17/03/2020 8:50 pm