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I’ve read a few reviews about Archer Components D1X electronic shifter which seem fairly positive. On paper it seems quite innovative and simple. But does has anyone used it on the trail ?


 
Posted : 20/11/2018 7:42 pm
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Not even aware of this till your post op.

Interesting though.

The things that could be an issue, to me anyway, after reading a couple of reviews is the price and the slight lag in shifting speed.

Still,I can see the benefits. 👍


 
Posted : 21/11/2018 5:30 am
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I like the look of that. Would make for a simple "Di2" upgrade to the Mrs Race TT bike rear deraillieur.

Out of interest, is there a Shimano equivalent - a two button bolt on shifter that can fit to a TT bar (as opposed to a TT brake shifter combo) and rear mech? Or do you use some kind of MTB Di2 bodge?


 
Posted : 21/11/2018 8:04 am
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You could use sprint shifters or the road climbing shifter on tt bars I think.


 
Posted : 21/11/2018 8:17 am
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I remember this on Kickstarter, looks like an improvement over the original design (shifter looked awful iirc). This looks a lot better, although I’m still not totally convinced by the shifter design. Would like to have a go though!


 
Posted : 21/11/2018 8:26 am
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the problem with the sprint and climb shifters are that they are remote to the main STI on the bars.

On a TT set, Id just want a single 2 button shifter that can fit at the end of the TT bar and drive a rear mech. The Archer seems to do that.


 
Posted : 21/11/2018 9:38 am
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From memory some of the Dura Ace climbng buttons work as stand alone shifters so no need for STI's


 
Posted : 21/11/2018 9:43 am
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@Stoner, i ws thinking of this.

It looks like if you mounted the 'bar' shifter on the inside of your DS tri-bar then it would be avilable for your right thumb to change gear.

My only concern with it, is that if the unit at the rear isnt securely mounted then you will get a bit of elasticity in the shift.


 
Posted : 21/11/2018 9:45 am
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aha, yes these seem to work just with a junction box

https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/shimano-dura-ace-r671-di2-tt-shift-switch-set/

Might be a birthday prezzie job for the mrs. Pricey once you add the mech and junction box though I think.

Looks about £360 in Evans clearance sale.


 
Posted : 21/11/2018 9:50 am
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also why dont Archer Components show their system, on any road or TT bikes, only MTB or cruiser?


 
Posted : 21/11/2018 9:57 am
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It's a single section of outer from the box to the mech, so the box could be waggling about like a goodun so long at the cable/outer are still good in theory the shifting should be fine too.

<span style="display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: transparent; color: #222222; font-family: 'Open Sans'; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 22.4px; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">also why dont Archer Components show their system, on any road or TT bikes, only MTB or cruiser?</span>

My guess would be that the big boys are more focussed on electronic shifting for drop bar bikes currently so the bigger gap in the market is with MTBs. But it would make sense for them to show an MTB wide range 1xN drivetrain fitted and working on a Gravel bike...

£300ish seems on the pricey side Vs traditional bowden cables and it seems like a gamble give the fact that they're a relatively new and not very visible startup, but there's a lot of appeal to this product IMO... Perhaps more than Di2 on an MTB where you'll have a large chunk of money still dangling off the rear of the bike.

I'll be interested to see how they get on...


 
Posted : 21/11/2018 12:53 pm

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