Anyone ridden the Mojo Nicolai yet?

Not being able to afford a shiny new bike I try my best not to get sucked into "shiny new bike" syndrome knowing that I will always be the limiting factor. Being bloody short (5 ft) helps that as other than full custom very few off the peg bikes look like they will fit me and have geometry that I'd like. This thread, however, is making it extremely difficult since the NoSoLong has come up. That looks bloody awesome for a shortarse like me. Grrrr and damn you Chainline. New 2018 Transitions look good too for shorter people too with nice short seat tubes but decently long reach and wheelbase. Damn it. How much do kidneys go for these days? I need to stay off the internet and get on my perfectly functioning old bike more.

I need to get you a test on it Littleman. I've just been struggling for time. It's on the list.

For those with raw frames. It's a scotchbrite pad hat is normally included and you need to get to bring the std finish back.

You can polish it with auto Sol if you want or use a scoured or wire wool. All will give a slightly different finish to it.

Great to see so many excited people about the bike. Can't wait to hear the ride stories and see some pics.

Sharkattack there should have been a scotchbrite in with the spare mech and the cable guide clips/stealth plugs bag.
If you haven't got it or that bag of gubbins, check the box and bubble wrap and if you can't find it ring Mojo and get one sent. You will need to confirm the mech hanger offset (if any) it's engraved on the inside of the hanger.

jes,

I've not used one on a GeoMetron but based on experience I would start with it Set up fast and with minimum compression damping, 50% open LSC and 80% open HSC
What air can do you have?

I've got a bag of bits and bobs. A spare mech hanger is a nice bonus, grommet for the dropper, cable ties and stuff. Definitely no scotchbrite pad. Today I pulled all the bubble wrap apart and there's nothing there. I'll pick one up but if it wasn't mentioned here I never would have known about it.

My Hope and Shimano stuff arrived at work today but I didn't have a spare minute to do anything with it. Hopefully it'll be rolling tomorrow then I'll decide on a bar, stem and saddle. I think that's all I need now.

Only a couple of quid for scotchbrite.

Chainline, apologies, I wasn't fishing at all, just genuinely really liking the look of the bike!

Thanks Chainline and Jes.

I have the standard air can (I think).

I started of with the standard normal settings in the cane creek manual as these were exactly the same as the one recomended for the ion 15 on the cane creek site.

I've added a bit of LSC and an bit of HSC after a short ride round some local woods for a shake down.

First impressions (of someone who has the full new bike excitement!)

On the flat- very long, fine on the flat twisty bits
On the steep ups- climbed like it had one gear lower. All the bits came straight off my previous frame, so this was an ace surprise. I cleaned a slippy steep bit standing- very unexpected as every other bike I've had has spun out if I stood here.
On the not so steep down- easy to get to grips with, was great.

No steep down or jumps.

It didn't feel too "big" for my flatish local trails, which I thought it might.

Off to Bike park wales for a proper ride tomorrow 🙂

Thanks Martin. Let us know how u get on at bpw. I doubt the geometry will hold you back. What seems large on paper spreadsheet disappears on the trail.

This is all I got done today. Seatpost routed, discs mounted and a bloody tubeless set up that absolutely refused to hold air. I'll get back on it tomorrow if I get a chance. It's starting to look the part now though.
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And this is what it looks like next to a Giant Glory DH bike that happened to be passing through. Both back wheels against the wall and the Geometron way out in front.
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Also, I've got a Hope 83mm BB that has massive cups. Normal hollowtech tool doesn't fit and I couldn't find anything that did so I need to track one down before I go any further. Wasn't expecting that.

Some really nice builds going on here.

It would be a lie to say I’m not looking at these and thinking I’d love to try a G16. Sadly I’m worried my riding style is not compatible, I hang off the back of the bike a lot so struggle to weight the front, my Mondraker Dune and I did not get on at all. I’ll see if Jedican help me on that front though!

Sharkattack, you need a hope 'htt188' tool . Not expensive. I too was caught out by this. I thought maybe the tool was big and did not fit into the crank box, but as you will see it fits in perfect.
Anyway it's a nice crank and bb 🙂

It is a mildly frustrating thing that Hope don't include it with their crankset really as you can only use the BB with the Hope.

I think the Glory looks a tad steep too! Perhaps 63 😆

Wife was out on the NSL on Friday with AirMaidens at Chicksands. Amazing change in her confidence on the NSL. She said Katy Kurd was showing a lot of interest in it...

Just let me know if I'm boring anyone with the daily updates 😉 But I can only work on it in short stints (plus I'm getting pretty excited about it!)

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I found the BB tool. I expected that we'd have one at work but it was hidden in a place where I never would have looked. So that's sorted.

I love how you can access the chainguide bolts through the chainring and easily drop spacers in and out. It would be a major ball ache to fit and remove that crank arm multiple times in a day. It's another level of faff compared to Shimano but it's so satisfyingly robust and chunky.

The DMR Vaults I bought a year ago because they were super cheap just happen to match the frame almost exactly. My tyres are now fully airtight. I'd cocked the tape right up first attempt. Not the job to do in a hurry. I went for my favourite tyres but there's so much mud clearance that it looks like I have the wrong size wheels in. I'll experiment with bigger rubber when these are worn out.

Annoyingly, it looks like a bike but I still can't sit on it. I'm undecided on a saddle and I'm waiting for a mate to produce a bar and stem. I've got some red E4's to go on then it's done.

I also got a very in depth tuning guide from Paul at Mojo. What adjustments do what and what to change and when according to feeling, conditions etc.. First ride will probably be Grenoside where I can do lots of short, repetitive runs and get it dialled in.

Even I’m excited with these daily updates!

Chainline, I messaged the Geometron Facebook page earlier but I had spoken to one of the guys at the Tweedlove demo day who said they might be able to sort me out with a G16 without a shock. Do you know if they would do this? Thanks

Are you able to share Paul’s tuning guide Sharkattack? I’ve barely altered mine from the original settings but would be good to know.

This is the last email I got from Paul. Obviously it's specific to what they've done for me but you might get something from it. I know the bike is designed to be progressive anyway but I asked them to make it firm enough for a lively ride. I like jumps and drops and I want a bike that pops rather than wallows.

I also explained that I love DH but have reluctantly learned to pedal because I don't live in Whistler and I plan to do uplift days and summers in the Alps etc.

SAG = the amount your suspension compresses under rider weight and riding gear.
LSC (Low Speed Compression) = is useful to control shock / fork performance under rider weight shifts, G-outs and other slow in-puts.
HSC (High Speed Compression) = control shock under bigger hits, landings, and square edged bumps.
LSR (Low Speed Rebound) = control under brake bumps, technical climbing and off-camber cornering, when extra traction is needed.
HSR (High Speed Rebound) = recover from bigger hits and square-edged bumps quickly enough to absorb consecutive hits.
Vol (Volume reducers) = clip on spacers that allow you to change the amount of mid stroke and bottom out resistance.

Base shock settings:
Sag – set sag and aim for 30 % when hovering in your attach position with all riding gear inc hydration pack etc. 30% is 19mm. Remember to cycle the shock through the first 25% of its travel around 10 or so times to equalise both chambers.
Vol – The shock is fitted with 2 of the orange volume spacers and the red spacer limiter. Video here if it helps

LSC – 18 clicks from fully closed / positive
HSC – 22 clicks from fully closed / positive
LSR – 13 clicks from fully closed / positive (Really dependant on footwear i.e. if riding flats try adding more damping to keep in contact with the pedals)
HSR – 15 clicks from fully closed / positive

Base fork settings as follows:
Air Pressure – set sag and aim for 20% sag when in attack position standing on pedals (DON'T hold the brakes) 20% = 34mm. you can run up to 48mm sag but you would need to address the air spring curve progression to achieve a workable balance.
Vol – x3 orange spacers fitted which might be overkill but give it a go. You can go down a volume reducer or two if you are not achieving full travel or it feels too harsh!
LSC – 19 clicks from fully closed / positive
HSC – 20 clicks from fully closed / positive
Reb – 13-15 clicks from fully closed / positive (dependant on air pressure and chassis balance)

** Important note - seal “bed-in” period is 30hrs **

Give us a shout once you have ridden it a few times and we can double check the settings based on your experiences.

Remember not to pull the brakes when setting sag and make sure to compress the bike a few times to break any chassis stiction.
After a ride just check to see how much travel you have used! Ideally with the suspension progression I would expect you to be able to use around 80% travel in a typical carpark test, (trying my hardest to bottom out the suspension without using the brakes to pitch my weight on the bike)

Thanks Sharkattack, shock set up is fairly similar but my fork settings are very different.

NoKills, they shouldn’t be apart from the volume spacers unless you’ve gone mad without talking to me!

Well updated thoughts on my extra long G13 after 4 days riding in wales

It only just fits in the car with one wheel off! I had thought of this, but thought it would be fine. Its a bit tight for any passenger in the front seat with the back seats down.

Bike park wales-
It only just fit on the uplift trailer. They had to use a third strap on the wheel to make it secure. Not something I had thought about before buying it. It felt very long and odd to start off with, after a few runs it was fine. I went round some of the corners I struggled with on a couple of other bikes with ease.

Mach 3 and the climax trail-
I wasn't sure what it would be like on a day out in the hills. On the Mach 3 trail it was absolutely fine. It is 0.7kg heavier than my previous bike (the only thing that has changed is the frame). After the Mach 3 trail I still had more than enough energy for the climax trail.

Penmachno
The bike was ace! The trail was ace, but loads was under water. I had more than enough confidence to hit the underwater bits and the bike soaked up some poor line choices.

Llandegla
This was all going swimmingly until I cased a jump on the black hard enough to put a thumb sized dent in to the rear rim. Not sure if it was over confidence, low tyre pressure or just pure lack of skill.

So
Bike park- good
trail centre- good
Natural big day out- good
Local trail- good

Last couple of things to try are a full DH uplift day and flat riding round Nottingham.

I'm a happy Bunny 🙂

Tall_martin how tall are you and what were you riding before for comparison?

Tall_Martin Just have half a mind on the rear travel when reviewing the full DH uplift day!

apart from that, excellent news.

I'm 6"4 with 36" inside leg.

Last year I've been on an orange Segment.

Chainline- i have a 200x57mm rear shock lying about and I trial fitted it before I bought the correct 190x50mm. The longer shock fitted with no problem.

Other than raising the bb and steepening the ha, would the longer shock do anything nasty? It will clearly change the handling and give 148mm travel at the back. There was clearance with the shock fully compressed

Tall martin, must have been you I saw on Saturday at Dyfi/CXlimachx I'm guessing? I was on the long G16. The answer to the car problem is clear, buy a van.

tall_martin check there is no binding at either end with the longer shock on the lever and downtube mount.

Other than that no the issue is the BB height and the HA.

In reality the BB on the G13 is slightly lower than my preference for a 29er irrespective of travel so I doubt that will cause an issue to you. worth measuring and reporting back I'd guess still sub 340mm which is fine. Personally I like a 350mm BB on a 29er giving the same BB drop as the 27.5. I think it helps with agility.

It wont cause any damage if there is no binding on the body.

I wouldn't like the HA any steeper. For me it already needs a -2 angleset for work best. If you also did that and added the shock then did the measurements that would be helpful..

Alternatively, the Mojo DHX-2 shock runs 190-57 to also give the 148mm rear travel, but clearly would incur some cost. You could offset that by lettint the two shocks you have now go. Curve works well with a coil.

steveh - yep! Nice to meet you. He bike fits with just me in the car, It will just have to have both wheels off with two people. While I'd like a van again, the car is staying for the foreseeable future 🙂

Chainline- There was no binding on the shock, I might give it a go in the future. As for a custom mojo shock, I'll stick with the s/h shocks I have for the moment. More riding less shopping 🙂

I'll give the bike a measure when I do, i used an app on my phone so the measurements would be good to show a change, not an absolute number. The app measured different angles on the two sides of a fork stanton last time I used it.

Cheers!

@blakec , how you getting on with that big g16 and that x2 , did you get it working for your weight . Im waiting for dpx2 and probably doing Pauls(mojo) head in .@chainline what size shock do I need for the g16 to run 29 wheel , I am going to have a look on ebay and see if I can get a cheap monarch till the dpx2 comes in

I fitted a -2 angle-set and the BB sits at 330mm off the floor to crank spindle. Personally I prefer how it rides with the lower BB/slacker head angle as find it easier to turn and find it carries speed better.

Also have a DHX2 arriving tomorrow so looking forward to trying the coli shock in there with the longer travel.

BIGMAN, I prefer the slacker angle but a higher BB BUT that is on a 155mm-175mm travel so likely the dynamic ride highlight similar to a 133mm setup.

BIGMAN, I prefer the slacker angle but a higher BB BUT that is on a 155mm-175mm travel so likely the dynamic ride highlight similar to a 133mm setup.

Chainline - Is there anything that can be done about the issue I have on all my geometrons of the rear mech cable walking along the swingarm and extending the loop at the rear mech end? All the slack heads that way until I notice as it gets tighter at the other end. I've tried cable ties etc but they've not helped.

Steveh - From new I was advised to put some of the tape linked below under the cable clamps around the headset and on the downtube to protect the frame. Given its a squishy rubber it certainly locks them in place and I never noticed them moving.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/RUBBER-MASTIC-TAPE-2228-1X10FT-3M/dp/B001B1AP3O

Same as this stuff I believe but without the 'branding'...

http://marshguard.com/product/slapper-tape/

There is an extra longest G16 on eBay if there is anyone tempted by secondhand geometron goodness 🙂

Thanks gotama, will give that a go.

I've not had my cables migrate that I've noticed. I do secure it at the back of the swingarm with a elastic band or velcro, I dont use any tape normally but seems like a sensible idea.

I never posted any pics of the finished bike. Well here it is...
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I've ridden it twice but nothing demanding yet. I had to test it on the boring stuff to see if it's going to be useful or if it's going to live in the garage like the DH bike. So it's been to Parkwood and Lady Cannings via the roads and bridleways of Sheffield. It zips along at least as easily as the bike it's replacing (Cotic Bfe) with exactly the same tyres on.

With the saddle up it puts you in a nice, assertive position for spinning along where the Bfe is more laid back in the seat tube and feels like it needs constant encouragement to keep the cruising speed up. It's had some brief Peak District style climbing where it crawls over rocks very satisfyingly. My hardtail would wheelspin and pop the front wheel up all over the place and this thing is totally planted.

I haven't ridden anything steep or rough yet, just the swooping berms of LC and Parkwood. No complaints but can't wait to ride something challenging. The experience is bizarre though. When you're standing up and hitting stuff fast it feels like a DH bike. It's just weird riding from home to the trails on a normal bike then dropping in on something that feels like the bike I used to take to the Alps.

So yeah, no regrets yet. I was worried that it would be too big and ridiculous on normal stuff like the routes I do on a weekend with the Mrs. but it was fine. Now I just need to see what it's like on steep and nasty stuff. Got a day at BPW booked in a few weeks and want to explore the Peak a bit more and find all these descents people keep talking about.

Well tasty

anyone read the long term reviews in MBR* or MBUK? Both have ended up trying to mellow the bike out a bit for "normal" riding?

MBR chap who had the largest grand rbded up saying he'd prob go down a size for use as his only bike and MBUK have fitted and angle set to steepen the head angle?

Both seem very different to what people have said on here, and Chainline is slacking things off a bit more rather than mellowing out the HA.

*Id like to publicly thank Large supermarket chains for allowing me to keep up with the MBR reviews while out shopping.

Lovely. A nice restrained use of Hope coloured parts 😀

Good to see someone so clearly prioritising bikes over home maintenance.

Excellent work Sharkattack.

😀

Here's that (really good) MBR piece BTW...
http://www.mbr.co.uk/reviews/full-suspension-bikes/mojonicolai-geometron-29er-review

Lovely. A nice restrained use of Hope coloured parts

Thanks for noticing! It was a deliberate choice, I hate when people go all in on one colour.

Good to see someone so clearly prioritising bikes over home maintenance.

That's the attic at work. It's very atmospheric but not as dark and scary as the cellar.

anyone read the long term reviews in MBR* or MBUK? Both have ended up trying to mellow the bike out a bit for "normal" riding?

At this point, I don't want to mess with it. I deliberately went on a couple of boring, mostly flat rides and it was completely tolerable. I will try the high higher/steeper setting but nothing drastic yet.

That’s is a very good looking bike shark attack.

I’ve been taking the magazines reviews with a pinch of salt. As my experience had only been amazing with the Geometron geo.

To the point I’m looking at a new one and one for the girlfriend.

So on that note, if anyone is or knows some one interested my 2016 largest G16 frame in Black is going up for sale. Frame only, comes with two chainstays. One is 445mm and another 450mm (raw alloy) I also have some 27.5 mavic xl wheel set all good and tyre

Email paul.james.jefferyATgmail.com

Damn - had a buyer for that but he went and bough tnew end of last week

Longest that should be

Sharkattack, sorry forgot to add to my post that your bike is gorgeous mate!!! Looks so classy.

That MBR article doesn't get it. They talk about changing riding style to ride a Geometron, that's probably why it doesn't quite work for them. Look at the picture of the guy riding it, his arse is in the previous postcode to his bike and if they are riding the Geometron like that they have missed the point. The whole idea is you can stay in a neutral/attack position on this bike without having to throw silly uncomfortable shapes, unless of course that's just a silly magazine pose?

Perhaps the larger issue is the type of terrain and the relevant setup. Taking a Geometron and steepening it etc means it's pointless having one. To me, riding mainly here in the Lakes and Highlands on the Geometron in a tough as old boots build, it feels to me just like a normal bike that pedals really well and fits me properly. I don't recall having to change my riding style, I now have a bike that fits me properly so I don't have to ride like that bloke in the picture.

Diur, agreed they don't seem to fully "get it" the MBR link doesn't have the final few months or the conclusion which is a shame. But I did think the changes they were making seemed to be in contrast to what the bike is about.

Could it be, that they are actually to long in the reach Diur? Whyte have gone shorter with the G-170, the downhill bikes seem to be sticking with 50mm stems and shorter reaches.....

I say this, because the most I can push to in reach is around 480-490mm before the bike starts becoming unbalanced for the way I ride. With reach, I also find that it starts to become a game of diminishing returns, with slack bikes with a reach of around 460-480 feel just as stable at speed to me (at 6 foot) - as one with a 500+mm reach. I'd have to be motoring at MX speeds to really actually notice the extra length having a positive impact on my ride - and then a few dozen pages back, we were told that the downhill bikes were sticking with shorter reaches because of the steepness of the tracks they ride. Well, steep tracks are usually fast - there aren't many fast gentle tracks in the UK.

MBR aren't exactly the first people to have this experience with really long bikes...I'm tempted by a geometron, but as with MBR I'd probably size down to get more standover.

As with other forms of racing, eg MotoGP and F1. Personal tastes between equally fast riders varies quite dramatically - I see no reason why this is not the case with MTB. The Geometron and it's designers might be progressive and forward thinking, but that doesn't mean to say it will suit all riders. And likewise, those riders that it doesn't suit aren't necessarily slow.

That MBR article doesn't get it.

Given Roo rides with one of the Mojo/geometron demo guys as well as the likes of Olly Wilkins I think that may be a little unfair.

Perhaps the larger issue is the type of terrain and the relevant setup.

But I think you have nailed it with this. I can relate to a large part of that article, particularly given I also just ride in the Surrey Hills. I just don't think we have the terrain to fully make use of the bike in the low setting, there are too many gently sloping, smooth trails. My Tallboy feels much better suited as an all round bike than the G13 on our terrain. I can still hit all the drops, jumps and steeper trails but definitely feel more on the edge doing so. As I said earlier in this thread, if I lived in South Wales, Lakes, Alps, basically anywhere you can let these things go, then I would be keeping my G13. I'm still very tempted to keep it and use as it as an 'away day' bike although with two young kids those days are few and far between. It would be ideal for my trip with Riviera bike in a few weeks whereas I suspect the Tallboy will feel out of depth.

I do think he sums the bike up very well with....

'Pedal into a trail half heatedly on the G13 and not much goes on, you just cruise down the trail, but go full tilt, and the bike comes alive, you are rewarded for your efforts.'

I found I just don't have to get my weight back anywhere as much on the geometron as on other bikes I've ridden. It's not good or bad, just different 🙂

I read that bit in mbr

Pedal into a trail half heatedly on the G13 and not much goes on, you just cruise down the trail, but go full tilt, and the bike comes alive, you are rewarded for your efforts.'

And worried before I got it. Its been fine bimbling about for me. Just feels like a really nice bike 🙂

 

Also not my experience. If you have to steepen it you've got the wrong setup or are asking the wrong questions...

Thats not taking away from the fact it might not be someones preference. There will always be people that prefer something different for many different reasons, style, history, wanting to be on the edge etc etc. I think we all just have to accept that.

I've said it before, I consider myself a very average rider (though I understand how shit works..kinda like the coach with the talented athlete) but on flat 'boring' single track I can break traction into two wheel drifts into corners, thats fun for me.

I live in the midlands, at least Surry has 'hills'! but I can have loads of fun at Cannock which is essentially benign, or indeed on even mellower stuff in local woods. Staunton is great fun but not gnarly and often not steep.

I rode a Hightower in XL the other day and shit myself in Shropshire I was so over the front wheel, so it is personal opinion.

Be interesting to put someone on the NotSoLong, which has a 565mm reach (yes I've designed that for 4'9" to 5'5") who is say 5'10 as the 600mm ETT is not that short but the ST is 350mm, a 200mm dropper is easy for someone with a 30" inside leg....I rode it and it feels ok, longer ETT than my old Helius AM from 2010, similar reach to the hightower but much slacker.

So have a pretty short bike (though longer than Florent Payets Mondraker :lol:)with massive standover but all the angles of a GeoMetron and see how they get on with it. I guess challenge the geometry of 'normal' bikes with similar sizing. Like the lovechild of a freeride and 4x bike for trail riding 🙂 for normal sized peeps

Tom, have you actually ridden one at all yet? You're very specific about what works for you on the reach etc but I keep saying its the sum of the parts not individual elements, that includes how suspension works and affects dynamic ride height etc...

What did mojo do for the DHX2 to work, what size did the shock end up? did it raise the BB? Seat tube go steeper?

Chainline - Member

I rode a Hightower in XL the other day and shit myself in Shropshire I was so over the front wheel, so it is personal opinion.

At least it was an XL. I swapped bikes with a friend - he did a run on my Longest, I took his 26er Nukeproof Mega. It felt incredibly short - I think the Geometron kind of ruins you for shorter bikes.

Same chap took delivery of a new longest frame last week....

My one which chainline Phil custom built will be up for sale soon.......

Amazing bike!

I have ridden several trendy long slack bikes recently but figures are very misleading when it comes to the Geometron. Some bikes with a poor setup or lack of cohesive geometry felt longer than my longest Geometron. It's not like I think super long and slack for the sake of it, I think let's ride the bike and see how it feels ignoring the figures on paper. That's what is so bizarre about the Geometron, it just feels brilliant as the sum of its parts.

Not for everyone but worth trying before making up your mind purely based on facts and figures on paper. The Geometron does excel in extreme situations but for example I recently did Ben Macdui on it, a 7 hour epic up the second highest mountain in Britain. To get to the trail we rode 7 miles each way on tarmac, then had several plodding miles to the mountain itself. This was with monster truck tyres on, not once did I feel like I was on the wrong bike.

Seem to be quite a few for sale at the moment.......

For GeoMetron owners and avoiding rhe rumour thread which I’ll stay out of generally except for wild claims...

Mojo have suspension stock to supply current GeoMetrons in stock.
They will also continue to supply Fox product for GeoMetrons etc

They will not as you have gathered be the distributer or warranty provider.

I've been reading the conspiracy thread. There's an impressive amount of work going into all these imaginary scenarios given how little real information there is.

I was a bit gutted when I first saw the news. Firstly because what Mojo do and have become is a pretty impressive outfit and it's annoying that think that Fox would just ditch them to trim some fat to appease the shareholders, if indeed that's what happened. I hope they're not laying people off because I've been down that road more than once. It can't be easy to be made redundant in the middle of South Wales.

Secondly, what about me and my bike?!?! Part of the reason I felt comfortable spending so much money (it's the most expensive bike I've ever built by some margin) is that I know dealing with Mojo is a painless experience. Hopefully I can still tap into their advice and tuning knowledge even if I can't go to them for warranty issues. You say they're carrying on as a supplier under the Geometron brand so I imagine that won't be an issue.

At the minute we have a BOS situation. Been there, done that, was actively trying to avoid going there again! I hope whoever takes over isn't a cowboy outfit. Some distributors are a complete nightmare to work with.

I thinks its pretty far from a BOS situation. The top/aftermarket Fox kit is really durable. The scale of Fox should mean plenty of parts availability. Also I never owned any BOS kit but the impression I got was the distributors were completely out of their depth. You have Mojo who know the product inside outs and will do their best to help.

It is an inexplicable decision from Fox when you consider the quality of service and advice that was on offer. Unfortunately once you get the wrong people in charge at a corporation everything becomes about egos, bonuses and the next couple of years results.

If you are a GeoMetron customer (Sharkattack and any others) you will be looked after in the manner to which you hopefully were and would expect to be in the future after buying a bike of that nature.
The warranty's applicable to the bike and anything you bought would be dealt with by Mojo/GeoMetron bikes
Obviously that particularly applies if you bought a package from Mojo.

Mojo as a brand/company is not dead. GeoMetron is not at risk. Fox products will be available. New products will be developed.

Mojo as a brand will look to secure its (excellent) legacy and continue to provide excellent customer service and quality.

Update From Geometron Bikes just now. Good news, really looking forward to see what the do next!

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To add to Chainline's post I've just recieved this from Paul at Mojo.
This is a reply to a question about warantying a creaky CSU on my Geometron's fork.
So seems to me that I can give my fork back to Mojo and they'll sort it with the new distro.
Just the same as my LBS has done in the past with bikes I've bought from them that have had a creaky CSU.

Hi Stu, thanks for the kind words please note that GeoMetron Bikes Ltd is a completely separate company to Mojo Suspension Hoodoo Ltd and has no business links with Fox Factory inc.

It’s very much business as usual here! We aren’t going anywhere 😉 well apart from strength to strength!

The new Fox distributor will be announced shortly and they will cover all Fox warranties going forward! Don’t panic it will all be back to normal very soon.

P.S. please re-assure friends or get them to call me if they have any concerns.
Cheers
Paul Shepherd,
GeoMetron Bikes Ltd, 2 RBF Business Centre,
Pontymister Ind Est, Risca, Newport, NP11 6NP
Phone: 01633 615815

Thanks Stu,

I've been trying to make sure that everyone knows this is the case and to quieten down some of the crazier rumours on the Fox thread.

So , will this affect the availability for forks for a g16 29 er build , ie the offset , i've been waiting for a dpx2 for a build which is also now not looking good ? , any thoughts chainline ?

Shouldn't affect that bigmagoo no based on my discussion with Paul/Chris

stu - if you're about, just sent you a PM

Hi,

I am thinking about fitting a water bottle to my xl frame. The bosses for the cable guides are the right size for water bottle bolts and there is enough clearance for it. The bottle will be very forward in the frame, which might look a bit odd.

Will the bosses hold up to a full water bottle? Any thoughts?

Bosses should be fine if it will fit.

Tall_martin could you post a pic of that set up if you get a chance?

Finale

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Nice.... good trip? I had four great days riding.

May also have booked flights for April to go back with a different gang of mates.... Not mentioned it to the other half yet.

Haha, We did, trails were blown and slippy, but great fun. I was knackered. Far too unfit going into it.

Did about 2.5days uplift and 1 day pedalling with a chilled afternoon. Got myself into trouble several times staying with faster and younger peeps!

Glad you had a great time.

I haven't been getting out much but today I went to my old local at Hamsterley. First proper day of just riding the bike without faffing around with it on familiar trails in nice weather. I really started to gel with it today and enjoyed it a lot.

The rear end feels amazing but the fork took some fettling to balance the bike. Having done that now the fork feels mint. Also, the tubeless set up remained fully inflated for the first time so the pump didn't come out once.

I've still only been out with my girlfriend so the pace has been pretty relaxed. That big cockpit is a nice place to sit and it minces admirably. On the descents though it was brakes off, monster trucking. The thing just flies over rough ground. Steep sections don't feel so steep anymore. It changes direction really easily but the steering is very slow. I think it's in my head. When I'm going up and along I'm kind of in 'trail bike mode' but obviously this bike is many times less twitchy than my old one so when you drop in the first 'turn in' feels really floppy and lazy and I had to correct myself a few times. I'll get used to it. Once up to speed it just runs away and carves around in a really satisfying manner.

It also goes up hills. I'm crap at technical climbing. I just sit down and mash the flat pedals. Luckily it just crawls up and over most stuff. If I clipped in and/or just made an effort it would fly, but I just pedal strike my way up stuff.

Speaking of pedal strikes, I'd have lots of them today. I think I should have a bash guard on ready for the inevitable.

Coming up next weekend- BPW and FOD.
I think I've gone too flimsy on my tyre choice but we'll soon find out.

Speaking of pedal strikes, I'd have lots of them today.

170mm cranks here. Haven't tried the high position yet. Today would have been perfect for that actually but good to know it's manageable in low.

Chainline - Member

Haha, We did, trails were blown and slippy, but great fun. I was knackered. Far too unfit going into it.

The Defender and Wild Enduro yours that Finale Free ride do are a nice break from the blown out rocky stuff... smooth forest trails, all fliw and corners.

Really enjoyed the bike... above all else, having the space to move on the bike means I don't get as beaten up physically... no side back or any of that. Dirt used always go on and on about DH bikes being too small... They had a point.

Just spent the afternoon building my G13 back up after noticing the difference in this...

above all else, having the space to move on the bike means I don't get as beaten up physically... no side back or any of that.

...on local runs with the Tallboy ahead of my trip to finale next weekend. And I'm looking forward to giving it a run on terrain that, in my head, it was made for.

Finale - Exo casing good or better with DH casing?

No punctures for me on Double Downs on this trip or the previous... one mate on Exo HR2s had 3 in 30 mins.

"No sore back" it should say above.

Gotama, Exo ok if you're light but given the choice DH and no punctures better!

Sharkattack, I too run 165mm cranks. Other mechanisms are to add or reduce volume spacers and pressure to the shock to manage the support point but give the desired response.
In reality I think you will just intuitively begin to reduce strikes.

Regarding the 'slow' front, that is usually a case of getting used to driving the front. Try lowering the bars 5-10mm and see how that feels. That helped initially for me and over time, as I found the weighting becoming both natural and fun, I've raised my bars back to previous levels, if not higher with the 29 front wheel.