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seen a few posts over the years on here regarding asgard bike sheds.
just wondering if anyone has ever had one broken into ?
Been a couple that I have heard of on here, I don't have links tho.
I had one of the 6 bike walk in sheds done in November. I don't know how long it took them to get into, but it didn't look like it was too difficult for them to get open using garden tools taken from neighbour's shed.
That's ^^^ first time I've heard of one being broken into. (Not going to sleep tonight!) I've always thought that maybe you could get in, but it would be very noisy. Even opening it with the key is noisy.
I’ve always thought that maybe you could get in, but it would be very noisy. Even opening it with the key is noisy.
The only case I've heard of was on a very windy night in Edinburgh and the shed was away from the house, so it wasn't heard. The lid was cut and bent backwards - must have made a right racket.
There was a thread on here recently where someone had one broken into, word is there is a weakness that is being exploited, no idea what that weakness is? Would love to know as probably getting one soon
It was on the end of the "what size Asgard shed" thread which my crappy new phone won't let me link to....
From the other thread
In answer to how safe they are, we have the 29er. It’s pretty solid and looks safe – double locks etc… But unfortunately it’s not. Not even vaguely secure. On our CCTV, we have footage of 2 young lads at 6am in the morning, one with a torch and one with a some cutters. Took them just over 4 minutes to get in, then they pinched all 4 bikes.
I won’t say what the weak spot is on the forum, but when you see the CCTV it’s actually very very obvious.. Really annoying. We had the police round who said they’ve seen quite a few cases of this recently on Asgard sheds. clearly, the words getting round that they’re easy pickings, and since they’re expensive, there’s likely to be a nice bike inside.
To be fair it's a posh tin shed. Fit a ground anchor and an alarm if you are worried.
To be fair it’s a posh tin shed. Fit a ground anchor and an alarm if you are worried.
Bit like sticking a big flag up int the garden indicating where the good stuff to nick is 🙂
The thing is it’s a continual ongoing struggle anti-scroting stuff.
I do like the Asgard but I think it’s a starting point as part of a solution.
DOD runs off to patent his idea of a small garden friendly sized shipping container sunk into the garden. Da Byke Bunka 🙂
The OP has a good point. I tried to start a thread years ago about what locks work and what don't, mainly to try to educate people about the crap that Oxford and Abus etc put out about their stuff. The weird thing about locks is that only a tiny minority of people who buy them actually use them. Most of them never get attacked so the general public has no idea how good or bad they are.
Moving onto Asgard, of course they are not strong. How could they be? The first safe on this link is approx 50 cm X 50x50. https://www.chubb-safe.co.uk/safes/high-security.html
It weighs 265kg. If it was the same size as an Asgard 4 bike then it would weigh approximately 4,000 kg.
It is rated £17,500.
How can people possibly expect a 114kg Asgard shed to provide the same protection for 4 mid/top end bikes which could easily total £17.5k?
It's niaive and a little bit stupid. Even a cursory consideration of the facts would demonstrate this.
And that before we consider than those Chubb safes are generally inside locked buildings.
I have the 6 bike shed. Judging by the scratches around the lock it’s had at least a couple of failed attempts. I also have the 29r shed too. No attempts at that as far as I can tell. We have the big shed fitted with an alarm and also lock bikes up inside to a ground anchor.
Aha, found the video I was looking for. Surprised they haven't taken it down as it is utterly cringeworthy.
Some posh toff making absolutely no effort whatsoever to break into an Asgard then declaring it awesome.
I've always seen them as more of a necessity if you don't have a garage or similar building. As a way to a: keep the weather off your bike and b: insurance box ticker - you still need to lock the bike to an anchor inside anyway.
Any thief who wants to get into it will find a way to do so, much like a garage or any other outbuildings.
PS. I bought an Asgard as it seemed to be the best option going. But it was inside the house and backed up by a TyreOCrete.
Just watch a few videos by the Lock Picking Lawyer, you'll quickly realise that the vast majority of bike pocks are only a small deterrent to a lot of thieves.
You lot don't half like over thinking things.
Of course, it 'could' be broken into, just like Hatton Garden 'could' be broken into.
They are a box ticker for the insurance that will deter 99% of opportunist thieves who might stumble across it.
Show me a product that is viable for storing 4 bikes that is 100% impossible to break into.
The sound of one being opened is like a jumbo jet flying over.
Lock the bikes inside the thing as well if you want.
Ha ha did the toff raid the antique shop for those tools.
@thegeneralist be interested in a link to that that thread on locks
It never went anywhere. The Almax fanbois hailed Almax, [us] Pragmasis fanbois pontificated about Pragmasis, a few people mention SoldSecure , someone said " You lot don’t half like over thinking things." and then the thread died 😁
I think part of the problem is that nobody wants to share their [equipment's] failures.
Show me a product that is viable for storing 4 bikes that is 100% impossible to break into.
My attic flat 🙂 Ok only 99%.
the whole thing around locks really annoys me. People just will not spend the £70 - 100 you need to spend to get a boltcropper proof lock. A boltcropper proof lock ( d lock never cable) with a 16mm+ shackle cannot be broken by the usual boltcroppers the scrotes use. Mine has saved my bike 3 times
Ha ha did the toff raid the antique shop for those tools
Probably raided the gardener’s tool shed on his day off.
Don’t think they were wrenches he was using.
Even with a big chain, best lock and a ground anchor you run the risk that they’ll cut the frame to just sell on the components.
As has been said, you can't make your bikes theft proof. A determined thief WILL get to them. The principal with protection is the same as surviving a bear attack - You don't need to run faster than the bear, you just need to run faster than the guy next to you. Make your protection better than other targets and principal is the thief will go for the easier option. The best hope with sheds and outbuildings is to make getting in them as frustrating an experience as possible. The Asgaard sheds are frustrating to get into. Other sheds are less so. That's their market advantage.
some interesting stuff to mull over. thanks all.
Da Byke Bunka
Where do I sign up for the Kickstarter?
https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/asgard-sheds-not-as-secure-as-we-think-they-are/
I've read that thread several times now despite not having an Asgard shed, mainly just as one source of perspectives on bike security. I certainly won't be going to the extreme of securing and protecting my shed against break in by forklift truck LOL.
Any thief who wants to get into it will find a way to do so, much like a garage or any other outbuildings.
Even the house, bikes nicked,iPads and big boxes of fags untouched.
On only day the dogs weren’t in the house.
I kept a bike with a big Kryptonite chain lock in my flat block’s bike storage. It was only my commuter (which was barely being used because obviously) so it wasn’t a total disaster when it was stolen. In retrospect it was only a matter of time before someone really put some effort in, and where the bike was they’d have had all the time in the world. So to sum up, agree with everyone else if they want it, they’ll take it. A lock will only actually deter an opportunistic thief somewhere public in my opinion, the rest of it is just for the insurance after.