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Here goes nothing. I'm looking to purchase a new vehicle and I like the look of the new Land Rover Defender 110. Does anyone from this parish have one and do you know if it is possible to get two enduro bikes in the back with the seats folded? I'm specifically looking to use one of those maxle-style fork clamps that you get for vans and truck beds to carry the bikes side by side and upright
They looks really awkward for that kind of cargo, small door, not that much space.
And horrific reliability, if this is anything to go by
They're not that big inside but for only £800 you can buy a plastic lunch box to bolt onto the outside of your rear windows.
but if you don’t have the lunch box are you even really a Defender owner?!
Surely you just get "your man" to bring the bikes along in another vehicle?
ou can buy a plastic lunch box to bolt onto the outside of your rear windows.
i always wonder what people are keeping in there when I see one.
i always wonder what people are keeping in there when I see one.
Its to keep your hopes and dreams in that you will go green laning in it one day but in reality you never go further than the school or tesco in it.
'Defenders' have never had practical load spaces. The new one is just carrying on that tradition! 🙂
‘Defenders’ have never had practical load spaces.
Except for the job they're built for - pickups are no better for bikes IMO.
My best advice to the OP (because this thread will only go one way) is to check the owners groups on Facebook or ask on the Pistonheads forum. I bet you'll find loads of pictures of bikes in Defenders.
All you'll get on here is snarky comments from beardy Berlingo drivers.
All you’ll get on here is snarky comments from beardy Berlingo drivers.
Yeah, thanks. I kinda knew this wasn't the place to ask but thought I'd give it the benefit of the doubt. I might knock the idea on the head and stick with the pickup...
Harry's Garage on Youtube did a review of it for farm use, he could barely get a bale of hay and a shovel in the back. It's the last vehicle I'd want for bikes.
The waiting list is also very long unless you are willing to pay over the odds
Harry from the garage & farm channels also loved it 🤷♂️
See plenty of them round here in outer SW London, seems to be the new throbber vehicle of choice. There's a particularly horrible vomit inducing white one covered in black plastic looking bolt ons (probably for storing extra ego).
You could always go and demo one at a LR experience centre. We had a great afternoon somewhere near Skipton in the pouring rain with the kids terrified in the back, and I was blown away by how capable the car was, and on road tyres.
Has no-one mentioned the dolphins yet???? FTLOG please please please think of the dolphins...
Also..one of the ugliest machines on the road... YMMV 😉
What’s the fuel consumption like?
I was just looking at photos from our afternoon out and clocked this on the dash. Couple of hours off road...
... 6.6mpg.
Mmm.. that could end up “spendy”!!
I bought one, on a whim. Was a bit expensive but it was kind of a treat for myself after a hard week at work. Got a load of extras for the roof rack too.
What’s the fuel consumption like?
If you have to ask....
Bet the Lego one is more reliable !
My riding mate has one. The V8. 3 of us went to BPW in it and we fitted an Atera Strada rack, which involved taking off the spare wheel. The wheel nearly filled the boot and there's certainly no space in there with the back seats up.
The Atera rack can have the upright tilted forward and it holds 2 bikes OK. The Thule Velospace XT4 with the optional spare wheel adapter can handle 3 bikes but it's still a tight fit, not excellent for long wheelbase bikes and a cool £900.
I think he can get his Specialized Enduro in it with the wheel off and the back seats down but certainly not with it standing upright. There's not much headroom.
I was just asking about fuel consumption as my 5 months old Grandson might want to know how it all went wrong even though we knew it would all go wrong? That’s assuming we live through the next few years and he’s old enough to ask!
Harry’s Garage on Youtube did a review of it for farm use, he could barely get a bale of hay and a shovel in the back. It’s the last vehicle I’d want for bikes.
Though in the end he was pretty positive about it and the 110 too.
NOTE - There was a Youtube channel I hadn't previously been aware of and is now going to absorb a lot of my time. I've just been on a Ferrari feast. I especially loved the bit with the SF90 when he hit the throttle hard for the first time. You could almost see the colour drain from his face.
I must admit that I really like the looks of the new defender. The design is quite cool and it looks very practical.
That being said, I would never buy one. The stereotype about their reliability is unfortunately true. Several friends/family members have had JLR cars and they all suffered from reliability issues that appeared to be random electrical issues as well as major mechanical issues.
I know all cars have reliability issues (unless you get a land cruiser!)but JLR cars are consistently at the bottom of most reliability surveys, plus the customer service from JLR is crap from what these friends/family owners have been telling me.
Don't let this put you off the defender, or any other JLR car as most of them are great, just as long as you can accept/tolerate the poor reliabilty/customer service.
Would you not just buy a proper landie 🤷♂️ and if your not looking for that utterly life/wallet changing experience (I've a love/hate with my 110 going on 10+ years), just go get a discovery for Christ sake or a Skoda yeti which looks very like the new defender 👍🤣
Is the Grenadier too off road and utilitarian orientated for today's defender buyer?
Just can't work out quite what the new defender is for - capable off road but not massively practical to do an awful lot you'd want to go off road for. And compromised practicality on road too over a similar 'amount' of car (measured in physical volume or cost) that was not so off road derived aesthetics orientated. I see the odd one up here driven as courtesy vehicles driving the tweeded well heeled tourists to go fishing. I suppose that might be their perfect use. But the Range Rover (the proper one) already did that perfectly well. I remember the discovery coming out - filling the void between the harsh super utilitarian defender/110 and the impossibly out of reach expense of the range rover. The range made sense. Now....I can't work it out.
It's a discovery with a more attractive name
Buy a Disco and take most of the bits off.
Don't get me woring, if I won the lottery and had to buy a normal car I might have one. Better looking than the other big 4wd stuff IMHO but it's, just like the other LR stuff, a very capable car.It all went wrong when they put the TD5 endgine in the things of course.
Don't mind the new Defender tbh but probably wouldn't buy one as they don't look that big inside, just like the hideous original.
We had a Discovery Sport for 3.5 years and it never missed a beat. Comfiest car I've ever had.