[Closed] Anyone gone from XTR to XX1?

Yes.

Given the choice, I would stay Shimano and use one of the Hope expander sprockets.

The Shimano shifters with multi way release and the ability to drop more than one gear at once are far better. Also the clutch system Shimano have seems to be considerably better (a lot less chain slap with a Shimano setup) all IMO of course. The extra 2 teeth at the top, and the one at the bottom I don't need anyway. They are the least used on my cassette. Some people may use them more.

Yep, ran XTR 1x10 for 3 years, now gone to XX1.

I've gone Grip Shift, so it's not a complete apples:apples comparison (but I used XX with triggers before XTR), and don't find it as smooth. You know you've changed gear with SRAM, there's a very definite 'clunk', whilst I find XTR can sometimes almost be too smooth.

I marginally prefer XTR, but like the functionality of XX1, I have had to play around with the B-tension screw on my XX1, as it sounds like the top jockey is rubbing when I'm higher up the cassette, not really helped though. It's just not as smooth as XTR.

Wouldn't swap for 1x10 with a 40/42t adapter though I must say.

I've gone from XTR 1x10 to XX1 1x11. A bit like njee says...

I marginally prefer XTR, but like the functionality of XX1

My general feeling is that XTR is far better made and is far less temperamental in the British mud we have.

XX1 is good but not perfect. The pivots are a bit sloppy, there is a small amount of play which I was told is normal, it is super sensitive to cable tension and the return spring is very weak. I'd also quite like easier adjustment of the clutch as it gradually loses tension over time. I also miss the two way shifting on XTR. Oh, and the chainline in the extreme ends of the cassette is pretty awful on my frame.

All of that sounds very critical but I am not unhappy with it as such. It does have a lot of nice features though such as the CageLoc and the cassette is beautiful and seems to be wearing well.

Honestly, unless people who've used the 40T cogs on 1x10 can say otherwise then this is the route I'd go down. I'd go 40T rather than 42T in the hope of keeping slightly better shifting and don't think I'd really miss the slightly smaller range compared to XX1.

If you are considering going 1x10, SRAM mechs tolerate the big add on sprockets better than Shimano in my experience, I'm running an XT cassette with a Wolftooth GC 42t cog and my X0 shifter and X9 mech set-up shifts a lot better over it than my XTR shifter and XT mech. The SRAM set-up shifts as well as over a standard cassette, the Shimano set-up is o.k but noticeably soft, definitely worse shifting than standard.
As for the other stuff, SRAM is always more clunky, a much more positive click-clunk to change than XTR in particular. XX1 is sweeter than cheap SRAM but it doesn't feel like XTR, nothing else does. I do slightly miss the double shifts but in all honesty I don't mind the clunkier SRAM changes, the XTR was so light I sometimes overshot and got a double when I only needed a single if it was very bumpy.
The final thing I'd say is that for me, the better functionality, the loss of the weight and noise from the front mech and the pleasing simplicity of only having one mech, one lever and less cables is well worth it overall even if you need to get used to a more mechanical feeling shift.
Edit: I've ridden a bike with XX1 but don't own one. It feels just like my SRAM 1x10 with expander sprocket setup but with a fractionally higher top gear. I'm not going to bother changing to 1x11 until my current kit is worn out.

I'm running xtr 1x10 with an xx1 rear cassette, super light combo and I'm really happy with it. However I'm tempted to go new xtr setup.....

I'm running xtr 1x10 with an xx1 rear cassette, super light combo and I'm really happy with it. However I'm tempted to go new xtr setup.....

Assume you mean XX cassette?

Altus A10 FTW 😉

Yes xx cassette, decided last night I will be changing to new xtr

Thanks for all the responses, chaps. It's very helpful to hear some different opinions and experiences. I'm still undecided which way to go, though riding last night I decided I'm not as wedded to XTR shifting as I thought...my mental impression of it is pre-clutch mech and actually, it's not quite as smooth / slick with the clutch mech engaged (though the clutch is certainly worth the trade off)

Tricky decision but great to have all these options now.

though riding last night I decided I'm not as wedded to XTR shifting as I thought...my mental impression of it is pre-clutch mech and actually, it's not quite as smooth / slick with the clutch mech engaged (though the clutch is certainly worth the trade off)

My experience of people using XTR is that they tend to run the clutch too tight which makes for shonky shifting. Just because it is adjustable doesn't mean it needs to be cranked up too 11 😀 If you get the chance to play with XX1 or X01 have a feel of the movement in the mech cage and you'll probably see it moves more freely than your current XTR. I certainly had my XTR clutch set so it was rock solid and got a shock when feeling XX1 and I'm not the only plonker I've seen do this 😀

Dan: Ha ha, Yes, I can imagine people getting a bit over zealous with it. I've not adjusted the clutch on mine since fitting it new last year, though...If anything it's got pretty loose and could do with a bit of a tighten. Have you XX1 guys had any problems with the XX1 mech / cassette creaking? - I've seen complaints about that (though might be confined to the earlier stuff)

No issues with creaking. Where would a creak come in? The XD driver is actually a nice bit of design and one of the better features of XX1 if that is where people have had issues before??? Just bloody expensive to swap the freehubs on a few rear wheels. The American Classic one was £80 which was a bit of a bugger.

The main issue people seem to have is getting down in to the 10t sprocket (weak return spring and slightest bit of grit in the cables seems to disrupt things) and keeping the drivetrain quiet in all sprockets as it is very sensitive to minor adjustments which are hard to get spot on. Full length outers and patience during set up cure these. The grip shifters are pretty heavy and have a tendancy to fail which SRAM doesn't seem to have remedied yet. There were lots of chain snapping early on too but SRAM have updated the chains to have solid outer plates and now recommend big-big plus 4 links (not 2) when setting chain length...

ive gone from xt/xtr to x01 and i wouldnt dream of going back

having never ever used sram before (always shimano), ive been mightly impressed, i cant say whether x5 x7 x9 x0 shifts as well but x01/xx1 is the cleanest crisping shifting ive ever used

xtr shifter is very very nice to shift, incredibly smooth but as njee said above its almost to slick, you end up sometimes over shifting etc, with sram you know exactly when youve changed gear

also depends on whether you want a dinner sized plate? if your looking for the extra cog/ratios at the back then xx1/x01 is the best thing out there to me

if your happy with just 10 speed, then stick with xtr, but i certainly wouldnt worry about the shifting of the xx1/x01

x01/xx1 is the best thing (and ive spent alot) ive done to a bike, its just amazing to be perfectly honest (for me anyways, maybe not for all)

ive had very few issues, keeping the xx1/x01 drivetrain clean seems to be most important, but in a thick shitty winter i only had a slight issue shifting down to 11th cog, and thats been it, everything else has been spot on, the b-screw as njee mentioned does need tweaking from time to time as mine eventually (dunno if its cos im taking rear wheel out all the time), rubs in 11th cog with the chain, but a quick tweak of the b tension and its fine again, only happened twice in 6 months so cant grumble

the b tension screw is pretty crucial to it running perfectly imo, but when its set its the nicest shifting ive ever had

also its all designed to be run single ring, ive not once lost the chain in the peak district on some very very rocky descents, it just works together so well, all in all i cant see how/what there is to worry about swapping over to xx1/x01, go for it i say!