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Thought I'd get my 'summer' wheels ready, pump one up and it leaks air - puncture, sealant has a go at it, but I think I'll put a proper patch on. Oh no, can't get it off. Yeah, Tubeless Easy - good joke Schwalbe.
Last time I had one like this I just cut it off, but thought no, I'll be patient.. stretched it round the bead, left it in the sun to warm up; tried all these
Can get it this far, but can't budge the lever, any 2nd lever goes in and the first one pings out. Nearly had my eye out when the metal one pinged out like a bullet!
What next, snips? 😅
2hrs later ... I removed my tyres. Lots and lots of elbow grease. Deep rims caused the issue on mine. Just kept flexing and eventually I got it off.
Mine were just welded to the rim.
Yeah, the ones I cut off were welded (well, glued) on. couldn’t even break the bead away from the rim let alone get a lever in.
You'll need to break the bead, and push it into the well to create enough slack to lift it over the rim's wall, if you start the removal at the valve, it'll allow more slack in the bead than if you start opposite it.
any 2nd lever goes in and the first one pings out
even if it's hooked round a spoke?
(or you may be able to grab the tyre carcass and "roll" it off the rim once you've got even one lever pulled over)
((or man up, obvz)) 😉
Got 3 levers in now, will leave to stretch for a while 🙂
Have a look at www.tyrekey.com
You get the flat schwalbe levers for a start.
And you put two levers in BEFORE you do anything to the first.
I use the tiny tyre hook from Halfords. They don't last more than couple of years because they wear with every use but they have gotten every tyre off I've ever tried. Only one is needed!
Ha ha! Just did it - the skinny Lezyne tyre levers that come on their little puncture packs. One in one side near the valve, the other the other side of the valve and it pulls a wide section of tyre off. Quick swap of one of the Lezynes with a metal cored lever (fatter, so easier to push) and push that round and off it comes.
Your doing it the hard way, work loose bead around to valve and start there. Once the levers come out that's a defeat in my book, you shouldn't need levers, very seldom use them even with tubeless setup.
I had a fight with a Schwalbe Lugano tyre yesterday / not even a tubeless one. Had a puncture due to a tiny shard of glass - I got the tyre off the rim ok ish (with 2 tyre levers) but getting it back on the rim was an absolute nightmare. God knows how I didn’t re puncture the tube getting the tyre back on!
I plan to use these tyres that came standard on my new road bike for the summer / until theybwear or start getting a lot of punctures then think about something new - maybe road tubeless.....
Had this problem the other day with a Schwalbe G-One on a Enve M60 rim. The main thing in the end was as others have said you need thin tyre levers. I got these and ultimately they made the job much easier -
It may just be internet rumour but I did read that Schwalbe tyres are tighter fitting than others.
In all my years this is the first time I have really struggled to get a tyre off. At one point I had one side off the rim completely but still couldn't break the bead off the rim and into the centre channel on the other side. As for putting it back on a Crank Bros Speedier lever worked fine but was no help at all for getting it off.
Vittoria Corsa Speeds on my HED Wheels always need one long lever to install, I use the thin Topeak, and two to remove. I’m an experienced tyre fitter, but these tyres are so tight they warped the carbon skin on a disc wheel!
to their credit, HED replaced the wheel, and it now runs a Corsa, that can be installed and removed by hand.
I had the same issue with Schwalbe tyres on my Stereo. It was stupidly hard to get them off and I broke a number of tyre levers attempting it. It was quite hard getting them back on too, I have been known to puncture the new tube using the levers to get the tyre back on, that really p***** me off!
Last Summer I took them off and swapped them with the tyres on my old bike (Trail Kings) i've not had a puncture on those since.
Your doing it the hard way, work loose bead around to valve and start there. Once the levers come out that’s a defeat in my book, you shouldn’t need levers
Ha! thers always one! I worked the bead round loads of times. These tyres on these rims are so tight theres no other way but with levers. Been tubeless for about 12 years, so I know how to remove and fit tyres!
Put a good boot on and use your foot. Wedge the tyre on the floor and push the wheel away from you. Its easy whilst maintaining the edge of your boot on the tyre. Works a dream, haven't used tyre leavers for ages. Works on road and MTB. I have carbon rims on both and both tubeless.
I plan to use these tyres that came standard on my new road bike for the summer / until theybwear or start getting a lot of punctures then think about something new – maybe road tubeless
Must say, since running these tubeless I’ve not had to fix a single puncture. Had about 3 and sealant has always done the job. Lucky really, cos trying to put a tube in by the side of the road.. well, not gonna happen!
"Ha! thers always one!"
Thanks won't bother again!
Had this problem the other day with a Schwalbe G-One on a Enve M60 rim.
Odd, I fitted some 38c G-Ones (the posher compound ones) to some Fulcrum 5 DB wheels and they went on fine (OK, with a little grunting, but not too much). That said, they really wanted to sit with the beads in the middle of the rim and they were a bugger to get inflated tubeless. Took a compressor and even then, they fought all of the way.
FWIW, I use the big, wide Park levers and am yet to fail to get a tyre off with them. they also have nice grooves in them for hooking onto spokes and are definitely the best toolbox levers I've used.
Pawsy is on the money in my experience.
Wheel flat on floor, good solid boot on and stand on the tyre with your heel. Really get some weight on it. Obviously stand on the tyre not the rim. This is 100% guaranteed to break bead seals and make ‘glued on’ feeling tyres come off. Once it’s got a large enough area of bead seal broken you really should just be able to get your fingers in and pull the tyre off the rim, but you can whip a lever round if you like.
The bead was unsealed all the way round on this one. (Glued on was a previous gravel tyre, can't remember what).
Absolutely no way to get a finger under - only the thin hooked end levers could get in to get a bind on the tyre.
Anyway, tis done now. Went back on [i]fairly[/i] easily, but did snap the end off the Lezyne lever in the process.
Have ordered some Schwalbe levers to see if they improve the experience. Cheers folks.
Once you've got a bit unhooked, like in the picture (in fact you don't even need anything like that much for this method), I get above it and use the heel of my hand on the surface of the tyre, pushing at the bit that's just off the rim. Bit hard to describe, but it means you're gradually forcing the next bit of bead over the wall, and because you're using the heel and you've got the tyre itself between your hand and the tight bit, you can give it plenty of welly with no discomfort. The harder bit with really tight tyres is getting the last few inches of bead *on*: that's the bit where there seems no choice sometimes but to almost peel the skin off the side of your thumbs.
One thing that works really well is thin levers- Lezyne's Power Lever is the best I've used, mostly because it's so much thinner than the ones STW usually recommends like Pedros. It's not bombproof strong but it needs less force than others. It's just basically a difficulty slider for tyres