Morning folks,
I'm nearing the end of my new build- Evil Offering running 150mm Lyrics.
It's the first medium to big travel trail bike (somewhere between trail and enduro) in 29er I will have ever ridden. I'm conscious the bigger wheels don't spin up as fast and also heavy tyres on a 29er will be really felt.
I'm going to use it in the peak district a lot, and I also like to ride Cannock chase quite regularly when riding solo as its safe on my own (if you crash there's generally folk about).
I've really run low on funds building this and will be skint for 3 months now-
So, can anyone recommend me a suitable tyre combo for the above, reasonably fast rolling (cannock) light (ish) but not flimsy (peaks)- I'm thinking of the climbs so don't want too heavy.
I've got some old schwalbes that are a bit worn I can throw on there (Rock razor rear and Hans dampf front), but they are 2.35 and I think a rock razor this time of year will be suicidal I'd quite like to maybe pop up to 2.5s too.
Any suggestions that can be had for less than £35 each? I'm not too familiar with brands outside Schwalbe and I'm hoping some manufacturers don't want £60 a tyre - you can get car tyres in some sizes for that!
Cheers
Can pick up the default Maxxis Minion DHF/DHR for less than £35 for the cheaper dual compound versions, that'd be my go to tyre on a bike like the Offering. Should be good all-round, plenty of grip, tough and roll ok. If you wanted faster rolling you could always get an aggressor or Forekaster on the rear.
On-one chunky monkey 2.4 gets good reviews, currently around either £13 or £21. Probably won't be the quickest rolling - but you could stick it on there until you've got some more funds
Or something like a Specialized Butcher 2.6 (currently £30 @ rutland) for the front
I ride both of those places a lot and I use a specialised purgatory on both ends in spring/summer.. although I have something a bit more grippy on the rear at the min with all the mud.
DHF/DHR2.
2.5/2.4 are a fair bit bigger in volume and a lot knobblier, as a result are draggier. 2.3's are more than adequate for Cannock/Peaks.
I've got two 29ers; a short travel Orange Segment and a Nicolai 160/150mm (which does not get used on the Chase much TBF) and they both generally run Schwalbe Magic Mary's all round, everywhere.
Personally, I really don't rate either Dampfs or Nobbys, but I am trying a Specialzed Eliminator out back on the Orange. I'd agree that both Purgatorys and also Minion DHF are pretty good too.
Keep an eye out in the classifieds, eBay etc. I've got some near enough brand new tyres for half RRP. I'm personally a big fan of a Magic Mary on the front and have been running a Michelin Wild Grip'r on the rear which has been very good, it's an underrated tyre.
As others say Maxxis DHF/DHR, you cant go wrong with this set up, just drop the pressure a bit for Cannock to help grip on the slippery pebbles!
How do the 2.3 Maxxis size up against the 2.35 schwalbes?
Evans have 2.3s on offer at the min and I get an extra 10% off with BC discount.
Maxxis 2.3 come up a bit less than 2.3, schwobble come up a bit bigger than 2.35
Cheers for input so far.
I was considering dropping the dampf on the back and just buying a Mary, but the Dampf is a soft one and will drag bad on the rear I reckon.
Price is a big factor here- thanks for the budget suggestions so far.
Planet X are still showing stock of the WTB Trail Boss in 29x2.25 tough/fast.
They come up quite large on a wide rim, large enough for me to have to take one off the back of my bike.
Good the though, fastish and grippy, quite impressive in the wet.
Specialized Butcher Grid 29 x 2.6 - Loads new/nearly pop up on eBay and pinkbike in your budget.
Quite different requirements between Cannock and the Peaks. I'd suggest getting something that works well in the Peaks and then just live with it at Cannock.
As above i use the DHF/DHR combo on one bike and a Chunky Monkey / Smorgasboard on the other. Both would work well for you. But if i had one issue i do think the smorgasboard is a bit lacking on muddy / rooty climbs.
I'm currently running Dual Compound Maxxis Minion DHF both ends for that sort of riding.
2.5 on the front and 2.3 on the back.
Come the summer a Minion SS will go on the back.
Thanks for that link,
How do the butcher grids size up at 2.6 compared to Maxxis 2.5 and Schwalbe 2.35?
They only get up to 2.6 on a 35mm rim apparently. I've got one on an arch mk3 26mm I think and it's about 2.4
Going on 25mm I.D so bang on!
I'm guessing they are heavy?
Whats a good rolling specialized tyre to pair it with for the back? I don't like mixing brands of tyres- logos look tacky when they are different.
Just found tredz have a load of deals on Maxxis 3c tyres in WT flavour- anyone used them WT tyres on 25mm rims?
I've got 2 Tredz vouchers and will make them very competitively priced!
2.6 Spec Butchers come up between 2.4 - 2.5, on that note I have sent you a PM.
Slaughter is a great mixed conditions rear tyre. Good in everything except deep slop.
Cheers for input all,
Managed to pick up a pair of Maxxis DHF front WT 3c exo and DHR WT dual ply for £67 by doing two separate transactions and using TREDZ vouchers. I can stomach the extra £7 for those.
Be interesting to see how the WT mates up with 25mm rims (ex471)
Happy days!
Be interesting to see if Tredz actually have any stock...
It depends how heavy you are and how aggressive a rider. I live in the peak district and am 100kg ish and I have given up with Maxxis tyres (EXO).They just don't have a strong enough sidewall, obviously there is the Doubledown casing but I doubt you will find them within your budget.Schwalbe Supergravity or WTB tough are the only ones that I don't seem to able to kill although this is on a hardtail and not a full suss.
I think a rock razor this time of year will be suicidal
Nope, not in the Dark Peak anyway, on the back obviously. There's not much real mud around and the big side knobs dig in on softer stuff and give you a lot more grip than you'd think. I run one all year round now. Stick a 2.5 Minion DHF on the front and you'll be fine. All imho / ime / ymmv etc.
For a tough casing rear tyre I’ve got a Terrene Chunk from Planet X.
Great value for £21