[Closed] Am I just being anal* (king not lined up content)

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Big set of stilsons would sort it.

If you wanted alignment then you should have specified that beforehand IMO 🙂

Find a skip

Rorschach, are you suggesting the Lemon(d) is a piece of sh*t bike?

You're worried about headset alignment when your bike looks like that?

I call troll.

It's just a big lack of attention to detail from the shop. Very poor show in my opinion

It doesnt really matter but I can empathise. Do you know anyone with a headset press? Id sort it for you but your not in Glasgow eh? 🙂

Go back to LBS with a large pack of biscuits, explain you are an anal ijit and ask politely if they would mind refitting the cups lined up. They may laugh at you, but will probably re-do it for you.

(Although I agree they *should* have lined them up in the first place)

Probably my no1 attention to detail pet hate on bike builds is a non-aligned headset! Regardless of the cables i couldn't live with that. Shoddy job.

Although I agree they *should* have lined them up in the first place

Well not if he has not specified it...
See I like my heat set not to be aligned, but rather to have the marking to be equidistant from the middle of the head tube.

I'd expect it to be straight tbh, doesn't take any time to do it right.

But tbf I would also look at your bike and conclude you don't care what it looks like.

Has this LBS taken on a new Saturday-boy recently? Looks like it.

If it was mine I'd be well pee'd off.

Mind you, if that bike was mine I think I'd have spent my money elsewhere first. 😉

This isnt anal, its called attention to detail. £90 on a king headset and they put it in on the piss? name and shame!

Not in 100 years would the shop owner think the op was anal about the look of his bike with the state of hat car crash, even if I got the headset for free I wouldn't fit it and mi Scottish. I'm not even going near the cables. In fact I no longer want to all about it, as I am scared I wake up in he middle of the night in a cold sweat crying for my mum.

Not a troll and yes it needs some tlc but after the winter it'll have new cables and hopefully I'll have found the right size screws for the headbadge. It will also get a new groupset at the end of next year all being well. To be fair it's decent given it cost me about £500 to build it up and it's ti and carbon.

Not in Glasgow Merak - I'd have a few options for getting it sorted there but ta for the offer.

I'm going to ask them nicely tomorrow.

I always lined them up when I working in a shop and I totally agreed with you when I read the post...

However...

I've changed my mind now I've seen the pic (sorry).

In happier (cleaner at least) times

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I honestly have no idea whether the logos on my headset(s) are lined up or not. I've never thought to look. Does that make me odd?

fontmoss, does that headset badge need bolts or rivets?

I've struggled to get a definitive answer, Lemond victoire 2002 I think? Badge like [url= ]this[/url]

The poster clearly isn't alone in thinking this is a bit shoddy.

Maybe I'm missing something, but by 'not aligned' do you mean the writing is not lined up correctly between top and bottom cup? Is it meant to be!? I wouldn't have even noticed.

but fair play its your bike.

To be fair, in an ideal world the mechanic should have pride in his work regardless of whether hes working on a 7k race bike on a £70 shopper. I would have lined the logos up and had them inline with the bar clamp, I would also have chosen a silver King, but Ive got OCD.

Your right to take it back, but as mentioned diplomatically offering a tin of biscuits, although I believe you shouldn't have to. Mibbe you should have asked that they line them up, mibbe they should have done it as a matter of course.

This is why I do everything myself cant be doing with shoddiness, devils in the detail.

Bike looks good, that first pic is selling it short.

Maybe I'm missing something, but by 'not aligned' do you mean the writing is not lined up correctly between top and bottom cup? Is it meant to be!? I wouldn't have even noticed.

Yeah fitted properly just attention to detail imho

plus if you really want to annoy a customer you just fit them upside down 😉

Does that make me odd?

No, at least I don't think so. I've got a CK on one bike and I don't have a clue if it lines up.

Nice bike mister. I had a LeMond in 'cannibal' orange with the white panels, lovely it was. I do love the internet, one photo that shows hardly any of the bike and everyone's queueing up to call it a POS and suggest skipping it.....

Anyhoo, I had a King fitted at my LBS a few years back, I asked the mech to make sure the logos were aligned and he was properly offended that I even felt I had to ask. So you should have asked to be certain but also shouldn't really have had to, take it back.

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest, and I'm I right fussy bugger when it comes to most things, but then again I don't get the whole tyre graphics and valve alignment crap that gets spouted on here

I used to offer to fit them upside down on custom builds as it makes no difference to the function, but no one ever took me up on it.

Wouldn't have noticed, wouldn't care if I had noticed.

M6TTF - Member
I don't get the whole tyre graphics and valve alignment crap that gets spouted on here

Merak - Member
I would also have chosen a silver King,

Cheers Dave I like it despite the comments! I had a lemond in that colour scheme before and loved it, sold it ages ago and was looking for another when found this frame and forks.

Regarding the king colour I think black or silver would be pretty dull on a black and silver bike. The cables were on offer when building it up but will be black when replaced and the cages will make way for steel king cages when money allows. So the mango will be the only hint of colour at that point.

I guess the moral of the story is if it matters to me then it matters. I shall give them a call tomorrow and ask very nicely if they;d mind changing it. If they do then I'll wait until back in Scotland to get it sorted but I've convinced myself I *need* to change. God knows what that says about me.

New pics to be posted once it's had a new lease of life, ta for all the comments certainly brightened up a dark November night.

I'd have asked them to line it up if I'd spotted it in the shop.

You could still ring them up and ask if they would.

You don't ask you don't get.

I like to fit CK headsets upside down and out of line. It's seems to really annoy some people for some reason. We once did it for a customer who was also a friend as he was also logo line up anal, as he was useless with tools it stayed that way and annoyed him for quite some time!

JRTG you made me chuckle :D. I am glad people who actually ride bikes aren't on STW 😀

no way I could let that out of the shop. For the record if spacers have logos I line them up as well, And the top cap, It's not anal, just doing the job properly.

Get it back to shop 😉

Given the headbadge needs reattached, the cable adjusters don't match, the outers need trimmed

Never nind the bike, what's your objection to using the words "to be"?

Or are you Scottish (making English a second language)? 😉

If my bike came out of the shop with the logos all lined up, I'd have a paddy and insist they take it back and wonk them up. Thankfully I never need to take it to a bike shop and if I did, it would be my mates and would come back messed up with bearings dropped in the tubes and in the bars....

and I'm I right fussy bugger when it comes to most things, but then again I don't get the whole tyre graphics and valve alignment crap that gets spouted on here

Contradiction surely... Tyre logos not lined up looks crap. Ditto headset logos. Although agree with Juan that equidistant from head tube centreline often looks better.

So if the headset cap has, say, 5 logos on it, do you set it up with one logo to the front, or one to the back?

And that's not anal - specifying the brand of nipple to use in your wheels is anal. I've had that 😉

They clearly need sorting along with several other things - cables etc.

Just pop them out and put them back in. Nothing permanent there and as others have suggested sort out the English if you are into attention to detail. You are just asking for trouble!!

I hope the trend for gopping great logos on things ends soon.
Rims look cheap and nasty, I liked the old small labels. And monster truck printing on tyres like kids toys, as opposed to subtle little logos in just one place.
Yuck.

Ride it and stop whinging there is nothing wrong functionally with your over priced headset and aligned logos or not your display of wealth is still very visible to all...

Sorry cookeaa I have to defend font here, it's not overpriced at all! I sold it! And I'm with the guys sayin I would never have let it out my shop like that!

Chris.

Cook, get a grip

As for the language I'm scottish and a literature grad, grammar and syntax are over rated...

I've had the ball bearings in the stem etc, used to work in a bike shop. Sadly it's several hundred miles away

I hate integrated headsets, no fun anymore.
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Edit, the South Downs are stunning

This thread is one big pile of troll dung right?

Although agree with Juan

We said no swearing words deary... For what it's worth, I don't give a shit about tyre/valve alignment and headset "centering". If it's fit correctly an works it's good for me. It's a bike, it is meant to be ridden, to get rocks hammering it and to kiss the ground from time to time.

And I'm with the guys sayin I would never have let it out my shop like that!

No wonder LBS are struggling, if you have time to do that it means you have not enough bikes to fix.

no wonder LBS are struggling, if you have time to do that it means you have not enough bikes to fix.

Ahahahahahahahahaha, an early contender in my todays favourite idiot contest.

I'd take it back and complain they'd fitted the wrong colour headset to, a mango headset with no other colour on the bike is way more wrong that the lettering not being aligned.

I nearly went and checked my bike to see if my head set is lined up then I realised that it has not effected performance if it isn't. To be honest if you can see the bottom cup is out of line with the top your ridding position is all wrong .

I imagine the mechanic looked at the state of your bike and thought you wouldn't be bothered about the logos being lined up. I know I probably would.

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Bike shop should have lined up the logos - not difficult and shows pride in work - and yes I'd be a tad dissatisfied. State of your bike is irrelevant. If near Reading I'll do it for you.

To all those crowing about performance, I assume your bike (why would you need more than one, after all they all have wheels so who cares? You're all about things working) is appropriate for your 'performance' level.

To all those who aren't bothered, if you weren't then why post about not caring

To all those thinking it didn't matter because the bike is crap, well it may be to you but that's my bike and I love it. It might be unsightly but it's mine, one of the very few things I actually own 🙂

I kind of like it. It says: I don't care about the petty rubbish. I don't care what anal, idiot forum users think, I don't care how my bike looks, I just want to ride.

But of course, that's not what you say... 😉

Even with the anal logo lining up, I do actually really like the look of it and the mango is a good choice. Wish it was bigger and my bike.....

What an odd thread, 60% of comments are slagging the lads bike off and 30% offering support and 10% offering to fix it for free..

IMO from the pics it looks like it used to be a decent enough bike and has been left to rot and now the lads building it back up again..

All good that.

Although I have to say no matter how cheap the pink cables were, they'd not land anywhere near my bike.

bikebuoy +1

i don't understand slagging someones bike off from a picture of the headtube when he said it was a WIP and needs the badge reattaching

Is it because it's not a Soul or Five and the change is scaring people?

I get the impression that most of the 'slagging' is in jest (I know mine was) and some here a just a bit too sensitive ❓

Aah that would do my head in having them lined up like that 🙁 very poor show lbs!! you have no pride man!!??

What an odd thread, 60% of comments are slagging the lads bike off and 30% offering support and 10% offering to fix it for free..

That's why stw will always have a special place in my heart 🙂 I can take most of the jibes but some felt a bit more than banter

not difficult and shows pride in work

This. I'm anal-and-proud, it takes very little effort when installing something to get logos lined up (be it tyres, headset, stem spacers, top cap etc) and shows the installer took the time and thought to do it correctly. If they cant be bothered to line the logos up, how confident are you they are correctly seated?

I imagine the mechanic looked at the state of your bike and thought you wouldn't be bothered about the logos being lined up. I know I probably would.

He's a professional installing one of the most expensive items of its kind into a high end frame. P1ss poor attitude if that's what he thought, if I'd been asked to do the install I'd 1) have done it properly regardless of my own opinion and 2) assumed the headset install was part of an ongoing overhaul/rejuvenation project and that the OP was capable of changing cables etc and paying for the job he doesnt have tools to do.

I always thought the tyre-logo-lining-up thing was massively anal. But headsets are more-or-less a permanent addition to the frame. They should be perfect IMO and that would really bug me. My headset is about 2mm off-centre and I sometimes notice it, let alone way off like that.

Being a bike shop mechanic must be really hard. I bet whoever installed that never even thought headsets needed to be straight and now you're upset about it. At least give the shop the opportunity to make it right before you let it bug you.

I agree superficial so I spoke to then and they did it there and then for me. The result well be posted this evening.

Now I'm paranoid. My ribbing was in jest and I hope that came across. All my king headsets are aligned. But then I fit my own.

But if I posted a pic with pink/green cables and a mango headset, I wouldn't expect to get away with it.

It was taken as jest, I would never expect to get away with it either 😉

I like to line mine up and get it as centred as possible.

Having fitted many many kings...

...most of them were yours actually Fontmoss, it certainly didn't need to be specified that it should be aligned. Taking a bit of pride in your work. Yes they can spin a bit when you press them but you should know that before you start. Personally i'd be pissed off that i'd paid for it.

As for some of the moronic comments, (patriotpro, cookeaa looking at you here) this determination to be the hardest manliest most gnarly cyclist is pretty pathetic, it's like listening to two kids trying to one up in the playground.

It's also pretty laughable for all those who actually know fontmoss, as his cycling CV would, if we were to play this game of top trumps, most likely shit all over yours. Especially if you ride a patriot, god!

Honestly no wonder all the actual cyclists leave STW to the punters.

should have told them you wanted it aligned before they fitted it. should have said something when you collected it.

don't use a LBS in future to avoid these issues.

It's only a road bike, who cares? 😈

It's only a road bike, who cares?

🙂

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ah the joy of trying to get a dry sense of humour across on a forum 🙂

i was 50/50 jest (hence the barb about souls/fives), but surprised that some of the comments looked to be having a proper pop at someones work in progress

personally i'm not a fan of the headset colour ATM but a few choice components here and there could tie it all together. But for the love of god please don't use coloured cable housings as i've not seen it pulled off successfully once yet

The thread has prompted me to buy some black cables but I see they are still more expensive than the ridiculous colours. Going for [url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=59214 ]these[/url] unless the stw fashionistas have something nicer/cheaper?

That's still misaligned though. If anything the reducedness of the misalignment makes it worse. You need to get your teeth around the lower cup and move it gently anti-clockwise until the centre of the N lines up with the badge mount screw-hole.

You'd have been better off leaving it as is - it looked rebellious before, now it just looks incompetent 😉

fontmoss - Member

The thread has prompted me to buy some black cables but I see they are still more expensive than the ridiculous colours. Going for these unless the stw fashionistas have something nicer/cheaper?

There was a chap in 'Cycling Plus' a couple of years ago who had the logos [i][b]on the cables[/b][/i] of his custom build alligned. 🙂

Sometimes, you can take things too far.

Has your pump fallen to bits yet btw?

i'm thinking lasers should be utilised somewhere in this process to make sure it's aligned properly