[Closed] Am I being silly worrying about carbon?

I've never had an issue with carbon forks and I break everything.
Although admittedly I've never had them on a mountain bike, I've had a couple of cross bikes with carbon forks and they got properly ragged with no problems.

I have smashed a carbon down tube against a concrete step.

The frame had some chipped paint. The step broke.

Carbon's tough as old boots if made properly.

I have ridden the same carbon Scott for 10 years. It hasnt broken but I have.

I have a Ti ss with carbon forks. I snapped the frame.

I would have no worries about carbon.

I have ridden the same carbon Scott for 10 years. It hasnt broken but I have.

I have a Ti ss with carbon forks. I snapped the frame.

I would have no worries about carbon.

So good I posted twice

The real difficulty with carbon (frames at least) is where it connects to the metal parts of the bike, e.g., BB shell, bosses, etc.

I've seen too many chipped/cracked carbon components to trust it with things like bars and forks. Frame seems a bit more acceptable though, which is probably illogical.

frame and forks fine for me - but i've ruined 2 bars and 1 post, and stay away from them now. i like the ragley bars with the kevlar wrap on them though...

I'm with Fortunateson09 and hungry monkey. I have just about every possible bike part in carbon on one bike or another but I won't use carbon bars. They just don't seem to be very crash resistant and I have seen far more carbon bars fail than alloy ones even though they are still rarer.

I'm pretty sure my wrists would break before my O-O carbon forks would.

I run carbon bars and don't think twice about it.

The idea of a carbon steerer gives me the willies though.

Weird!

BEen using carbon bars for 6 month done jumps, crashes and I would do downhill with them. I use a easton carbon seatpost too which I have had no problems with. Trust the stuff its great.

My on one carbon is going wales with me in april and it will suffer the same abuse as my full sus did.

I've a (possibly irrational) fear of being reamed out by a broken carbon seatpost, so won't use one on an mtb. Happy with frames, forks and bars though. And anything goes on the road.

broken bars can ream you out just as easily, possibly from the other end first.

No problems using anything carbon..... I use carbon on boats that is under huge pressures, it's fine.

Carbons terrible stuff thats why they build aeroplanes out of it.

the seat post line above is the problem with carbons image. Cheap (or cheaply made) carbon products made from off the shelf carbon tubes and not designed for the end use.
I think we are seeing the next big wave of carbon frames, the DH scene seems to getting the idea. Affordable and good trail frames On-one, Spesh Stumpy FSR bike for £2.5k.

Plus, broken aluminium / steel / titanium can mess you up just as bad, or maybe worse!

they don't need worry about crash resistance in aeroplanes though!

thing is, i've damaged easton and ritchy carbon bars - blistering on the eastons for no apparent reason and deep scratches caused when a rock fell on them in a crash - better to be safe than sorry, so i got rid - not something i'd have needed to do with alu bars (at least in my head...)
my carbon post got a crack all up its length - possibly over tightened but again, not something which would happen with an alu post.

horses for courses though - i run 2 pairs of carbon forks (CX and rigid), and a carbon post on my CX bike...

£2.5k is affordable? 0_0

I've crashed plenty over the years on FSA Gravity carbon bars. Few scratches but that's it. Two pairs still going strong and I'd buy again.

£2.5k is affordable? 0_0
How much are Full sus bike these days? Have they come down a lot since i last looked?

I'm with jhw- in my experience carbon is OK except where it is bonded to other materials, especially in high stress areas. I had three carbon FS frames break (all replaced under excellent warranty from a certain US manufacturer I might add) all in bonded areas. I would be much happier with a carbon hardtail. I have used carbon bars and carbon stems for years without any issues so far

Thanks, lots to think about. The only carbon components would be bars (straight) and forks (bonded to alum. dropouts). I'm trying to get the best bike I can out of not much cash for my partner but would rather replace the bars for aluminium ones if that's safer. The forks would have to stay but there is another On-One package with coil Toras for the same price. Most of her riding would be on the road though so rigid forks feel best.

If you want a set of cheap Easton EC70 carbon flat bars 580 wide i have some that i have used 1 time. You can have them for £30 Email me if you want them.

So, I could ebay the bars, but what are people's thoughts on carbon forks? If bonding's a concern there's plenty of it on those, presumably legs to dropouts and crown - but a lot of folk seem to be riding them without issue. Or I could just go for the Tora option.

I'm probably being irrational but I seem to have much more angst around building up a bike for my partner than I do when I build for myself.

I ride a full carbon CX...

I'm no lightweight, and I don't give it a 2nd thought... 🙂

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What is the current thinking on dropping the saddle on a carbon bike? Is it still a mid-ride no-no or have attitudes relaxed / build improved?

Where I work we make bits for helicopters and jet engines out of the stuff, so I reckon it's ok for bikes! 😉

Let me know if anyone's got any large broken carbon frames they want rid of by the way! 😉