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I'm on holiday at the moment and touring around the Pyrenees with my bike. Frustratingly, Ive had a puncture in my Conti GP5000 which the Stans sealant didn't seal AND my Stans Dart also failed to fix. It looks like a tiny shard of glass or rock has left a small hole (so not a big slash).
So, call me unimpressed with Stans 🤬
To add insult to injury, after installing a tube, I couldn't get the tyre back on the rim so ride was abandoned.
I'm now after a replacement tyre that I can actually fit myself, prefably tubeless...
(Got a bike shop to re-fit tyre with a tube but I'm not confident I wouldn't be stranded if I have another puncture as the GP5000TR are stupidly tight. Wheels are Giant SLR1 should that make any difference.
Literally just fitted those to that rim, tight but not WTB tight, one tyre lever to get the last bit on but no real drama.
Lube on the bead?
Tubeless Schwalbe One and Pro One both fine on Giant PR2 wheels. No idea how similar SLR1 wheels are.
Obvious answer is literally the GP5000 S TR, which is the sequel to the GP5000 TR and is specifically** stated as "less of an absolutely barsteward to fit" in the Continental literature.
(** ok, so they don't actually state this, but it's certainly been mentioned by Conti themselves)
I'll be honest, for this reason I still don't run road tubeless. From the year that I did it (I used Schwalbe Pro One tyres) it was more trouble than it was worth (I still had punctures and not all of them self-sealed) and ain't no way I want to be stuck, in the rain, 50 miles from home with a tyre that I can't get back on the rim. I now run regular GP5000s and tubes and am much happier.
I have the same combination. Fitted a tube the other week as I kept losing pressure. I had to use a pedros lever to get the last wee section of the bead inside the rim. I made doubly sure the tube was out the way when applying the lever. Pumped up the tube all good. Rims Giant SLR1, tyres GP5000s TR, tube Ride Now TPU 26 gram special. I am also using Stans.
Just fitted a pair of 32mm GP5000 S TRs, and without doubt the easiest tyre to put on and inflate. Couple of rides in and I’m very impressed, although I’ve gone form heavier gravelkings (which are an absolute PITA to get on).
I've got SLR1s and have fitted the current GP5000S TR and the previous GP5000 with no bother at all. I used one of the Giant tyre levers that came with the bike to get the last little bit on, but it was close to being doable with thumbs.
Conti Ultrasport use the same rubber compound as GP5000's - so just as much grip. Still pretty tight, though (on a Hope FIVE rim).
They will go on if you inflate the tube slightly (then pop it out of the snakebite zone) and make sure the bead is in the rim centre, then work it round from the valve. You may need a lever for the last little bit.
I took off some regular tubed GP 5000 (also a proper pain to fit on my rims) and fitted some tubeless vittoria corsa n.ext instead. They popped on easily enough and have held pressure well, so far (only 1500 miles) I've had just one puncture that needed an anchovy.
I took off some regular tubed GP 5000 (also a proper pain to fit on my rims)
Interestingly, my Zipps are also shod with GP5000s and I can take them on and off with my bare hands. It's astonishing that in these days of micron-level tolerances that wheel rims can be so different when it comes to fitting tyres. My son has some old, Chinese carbon wheels that he used to use for CX and we tried chucking some regular GP5000s on them and absolutely nothing would get those tyres onto those rims. They didn't have a deep centre channel and when fitting them, they became lever-bendingly tight with a full 1/3 of the bead still not in place.
Wheels are Giant SLR1 should that make any difference.
Anecdotal, on the basis of my experience with a Giant wheelset and Conti tyres, but I've never had a tighter fit that had me throwing tyre levers at things in sheer frustration at how hard it was to refit the tyres. Ended up buying a new wheelset just so I didn't have to spend 45 minutes to an hour at the side of the road on a wet or freezing commute cursing the Gods of punctures, slowly losing the use of my thumbs.
Was a couple of years ago, so maybe they're a bit more generous with the rim sizing.
Anyways, hope the rest of the riding in the Pyrenees isn't too affected!
fitted some tubeless vittoria corsa n.ext instead
How do you find the Corsa Next compared to the GP5000? They seem to be relatively equivalent but for my purposes I wonder if the NEXT is a bit compromised by being tubeless ready, I'll be running tubes so am thinking the non-tubeless GP5000 might be lighter or more supple...
Obvious answer is literally the GP5000 S TR, which is the sequel to the GP5000 TR and is specifically** stated as “less of an absolutely barsteward to fit” in the Continental literature.
Is there a GP5000TR? I thought it was GP5000S TR and the prior generation was the GP5000 TL.
Is there a GP5000TR? I thought it was GP5000S TR and the prior generation was the GP5000 TL
Ah, probably my bad. You get the idea though.
daern
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Obvious answer is literally the GP5000 S TR, which is the sequel to the GP5000 TR and is specifically** stated as “less of an absolutely barsteward to fit” in the Continental literature.
Ha, I've just checked my tyre as it's only a few months old, and it IS a Conti GP 5000 S TR....
aberdeenlune
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I have the same combination. Fitted a tube the other week as I kept losing pressure. I had to use a pedros lever to get the last wee section of the bead inside the rim. I made doubly sure the tube was out the way when applying the lever.
Yeah, I'm using Pedro's levers but I was too scared to really use a lot of force. I might see whether I can get better levers (seeing as my thumbs obviously aren't strong enough!)
How do you find the Corsa Next compared to the GP5000?
I didn't notice much difference between then tbh - I'm not particularly picky about tyres but didn't notice much change in speed or feel so that'll do for me. Not sure what difference it'd make if you chose to run a tube in the corsa though.
I went for them because of the reputation of the tubeless gp5000 ask being difficult to fit when I'd already struggled with the normal tyres, then one of the German sites had a great deal on the corsas so that halped make my mind up.
Not wanting to sound like a marketing drone, but have you tried using a tyre monkey/tyre glider ? Sooo much easier than regular levers !
I can't help, but if it's any consolation I've never struggled more with a tyre than fitting a GP5000 TR to a Giant SLR1 wheel.
Made worse by the fact that my rear wheel is a Zipp 303s and it went on by hand (but inflated just as easily tubeless!).