[Closed] Alternatives to an Evil The Offering?

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That's not going to handle well in the tight twisty stuff ....😁

Bird am29 , 150mm travel . Very sorted bike and excellent value. Not carbon but why get hung up on material.

Ripmo. there's another thread at the minute where it gets discussed

here

Did you not manage to find someone to discount the Evil then?

Transition sentinel / smuggler, although they have shorter offset from memory - do you have forks to chuck on?

Haven't managed to get anything off one to make it viable.

Im also dubious about the warranty.

I've already got a top end 51mm Lyrik so would rather a frame designed around a 51mm offset.

I've looked at the Bird. I find them ugly and that's a deal breaker.

Same with the ripmo. Really don't like the look of them.

Thanks for the ideas thougb

Well since your last thread you've also got the new canyon strive to consider.

Potentially trail bike and enduro bike, not a full enduro weapon geometry anyway.

I run a little LBS and we built an Evil Offering for a customer a week or so ago. It was a beautiful bit of kit! Well sized, super easy build, really well finished and rode beautifully. We all have high end bikes but we all also looked on the website at the frames immediately! I would love one

Jeffsy. Just sell the bits you don't need.

I've got everything except frame as it's all bolted on a Solaris max at the min (lyrik is at 150).

Better warranty reputation than Evil

That was about 5 years ago now, probably longer, when they had a terrible factory and the frames for the Uprising all cracked.

They followed it up with terrible customer service.

Now though, I've dealt with their customer services teams quite a few times for random things, and they've been absolutely brilliant. Have a looking on the Evil forums, there's been 3 frames I know of across the recent bikes - since the Following that have had bad stories about them. And 2 of them looked like extreme useage scenarios.

They're very very well made, the QA as far as I can tell is very good.

I've got an Insurgent and an Offering.

The Offering is a brilliant bike. Believe the reviews. And I wouldn't let the previous factory (totally new deal and factory since the Uprising debacle), and previous customer service out you off.

Cheers for that.

I probably need to save for a few months and sell some stuff and just go for one.

They're what I really want.

Bit unsure on sizing too, could do with sitting on a medium and a large.

Maybe not as long / slack as some of the other contemporary options, but the Hightower ticks the rest of the boxes.

If you are after a less expensive frame a Fezzari la sal peak may be for you. US direct sales, so may not be cheaper by the time it lands in the UK, but getting good reviews.

Yeh I've ruled them out on reach. I've just sold a 2016 sb6c as I'd bought a medium and was finding it cramped.

Orbea Rallon?

Ibis Ripmo...Shirley?

Pivot Switchblade?

I had an Evil Insurgent until a few months ago - sold it for the RipMo (Offering was released a few weeks later!!)
Never had any frame issues despite 2 alps trips and lots of riding in between. I would have absolutely no concerns about getting another one. The frames are now apparently made in the same factory as Santa Cruz frames in China.
Of course, you cannot beat the service from Ibis, I've never experienced support from any manufacturer as good as them, but Evil aren't bad.

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Bridging between trail and Enduro bike with Enduro bike length/geometry but a bit shorter travel (around 140mm but long and slack).
Designed around a 51mm offset fork.
Better warranty reputation than Evil (this is what is putting me off).
Preferably 31.6 seat tube but not a deal breaker.
South of £3k for a frame.

I realise I’m in stuck record mode with recommending what I ride, but in terms of your requirements.

145mm with 160mm fork

Not über long wheelbase, nice front centre for me (gibbon armed 5ft11 on larger), super low seat tube so I could run a 200mm dropper even with my diddy legs.

51 offset. Nope it’s 44. Mine has a 42 as I bought a lyric in that spec at a great price. I demo’d on a 51 and honestly I can’t tell the difference but others say they can. The PinkBike review talk about it. It wouldn’t be a deal breaker for me.

7 year warranty. Ibis are great to deal with. As are 2Pure.

31.6 post

I bought mine with 10% off and they were just out. Think Sunset etc are doing a bit more off now so you’d be inside your budget.

High tower lt?

Stif did have a few bargains on frames the other week so maybe worth a look (may not of course)

Ordered an Offering. It's what the heart wanted. Wallet hurts.

Cheers for input all

If my following is anything to go by you'll be pleased you did but invisiframe it or the like from day 1.

I'm not precious about my bikes like some and didn't bother except the obvious rub points and now wish i had. It turns out the paint is "fragile" to say the least and it looked like it had leprosy within a few weeks.

Evil let me abuse their bikes in the US last year, they seemed pretty bulletproof, service was great and the bikes were epic. Ibis wouldn’t let me testride one of their bikes on a decent trail because they said I looked ‘too park’ 😂 Make of that what you will... Maybe one brand gets breakages because they attract a different type of rider... If you’re worried about warranty and want to save $$ just get last season a Santa Cruz frame on discount, build up how you want and forget about it.