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Once i come back from the alps i plan on replacing my Scott Gambler downhill bike with some kind of do it all bike, most likely a full sus.
It would be nice if you could post your am bike with spec and a rough guesstimate of weight too. This being to give a guide on what people are running and what would be a good spec to aim for.
Thanks,
Harry
TBC
Blur LTc
Fox Float 34 160
Hope ProII/XM719's
Ardent Tubeless
SRAM X0 Twisties/x9 Mechs
SRAM 2x Crankset
Thompson Stem & 780 Bar
Hope BB & HS
KS 950 or Lev
Should weigh just under 30lb without pedals (frame in transit currently)
Basically an evolution of what I have ridden component wise for 5 years to what I like. Demo'd the Alu version (panned to get one until a deal on the C came up back to back with a Nomad C, both great bikes but even on a good lakes test the Blur did enough - the nomad would be awesome with enough alpine weekends but not an option)
Although it appears the LT & c is no more after this year, the bronson should pick up the space though.
Sounds like a nice spec!, would you recommend 2 up front or 1 ring up front, that may be a main issue, there are guides and such to run dual ring up front isn't there?
cheers
Plenty of 2x guides. 1x is there if you want it. All about you, your riding style, your legs and where you live.
New one so not had a chance to weigh it yet but hoping about 31 to 32 lb
2013 Nomad C with DBair
Fox 36 Talas
Hope Hoops with Flows and high roller 2 St and Ardent
1x10 with 30 tooth up front and 11-40 cassette
XT brakes and shifters
Ks Lev 150 seatpost
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That nomad looks very smart! How are you liking it?
Also this is my current bike, probably a bit overkill for where i live, rode 30km on it today and didn't feel too bad after, would just feel i would benefit from having something with less travel and is lighter so i can go further without it being a slog sometimes, weighs in at 45lbs or something.
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Love it, only had 1 ride after a bit of time off the bike but still felt quick and planted. Had a mate who still has a Giant Glory one as his only bike, it a monster on the downs but it kills him on the climbs and anything that is not steep
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I'd sneaked light wheels onto it for this race, which didn't go too well, destroyed the rear 😳 Usually it's a more bulletproof spec, at 32-give-or-take lbs... 'tis ace. Slacked out with a 2 degree Works headset, coil Lyriks, Specialized Butcher Controls (like little downhill tyres). Innerleithen walkers paths one day, Fort William dh the next, nae bother.
Looks sweet Pridds, probably my first choice if I had more mountains.
I reckon my 1x move will only come after X01 has bedded in a bit though.
no pics @ mo as can't get into photobucket but pretty much everything on mine is heavy/burly so I'd guess 35lb?
2010 Alpine 160 with CCDB coil
2010 Marz 55 RC3Ti
XT gears and brakes, 203mm rotors, M800 Saint cranks, 2x9 with bashguard and Blackspire Stinger dual guide
Pro 2s with Sun Equalizer (31?) rims
Haven bar/stem
GD post
Easton flatboy (nearly 600grm!) or Kona Wah Wah pedals.
Having ridden the 1x10 i will be saving my pennies for X01 as i love it but a wider range would be great, but its works as it is
@Northwind, what frame is that?
@Crashtest,i wouldn't mind a build like that, maybe a 5 or something, would try get it nearer the 30lb mark though, if humanely possible!
also, long shot, is there a frame with geometry alike this one?
Size Head angle HT Length TT Horizont. Seat angle Top ST CST Length BB OS
Short 64.0° 115 (565) (72.0°) 418 440 25
Long 64.0° 115 (590) (72.0°) 418 440 25
Hazza, it's a Cotic Hemlock.
it got heavier without really trying 😆 , trashed the splines on my RF crank and picked up a mint M800 cheap, flat-spotted my DT5.1 rims and CRC were doing the Sun rims for £15 (down from £60) in cool/naff (delete as applicable) winter camo, RC3Tis replaced worn Lyrik Solo airs, I love the feel of Flatboys and they are indestructible but good grief they are heavy. I'm only 70kg so it is a bit of a lump but I love it, climbs far better than I expected and isnt a killjoy on easier terrain.
I guess mine falls into this category...
Only ridden it a couple of times in the two weeks I've had it but I really like it, it's far more capable than I am! It flies down the hills, is surprisingly easy to jump but still climbs ok. The rear end generates a lot of traction and the steep seat angle helps to stop it getting wandery on climbs. It comes in at 33 for the large with coil forks.
A candy blue 06 Enduro with 36 Van RC2s, hope m4s, nukeproof 29mm rims and on-one tyres (xt rear and formula front hub)
1x10 with an mrp chain guide and burgtec penthouse flats
Comes in at 34lb but it climbs ok as long as you have the legs for it and descends way better than I can
here is my banshee spitfire . I finished building it a couple of weeks ago its an absolute blast to ride ,could not be more pleased with it!!!indoor photos unfortunately everytime ive been out on it ive been having so much fun riding that I forget to take better pictures!!
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forgot to list the spec
Medium banshee spitfire v2 with the slack chipset installed so head angle of 66.5 with 150mm fork
Fox ctd trail adjust kashima shock
Rockshox 150mm revelation with 20mm maxle
Rockshox reverb
Shimano xt brakes with 180mm rotors
Shimano slx double cranks 22-36
E thirteen trs duel chain guide and bash
Shimano slx shifters
Shimano slx 10 speed cassette 11-34
Shimano slx shadow + rear derailleur
Sram x7 front derailleur
Kmc chain
Hope headset
Hope bottom bracket
Superstar Am490 wheelset with tesla hub front and trizoid enduro hub rear fitted with schwalbe hans dampfs
Raceface atlas 50mm stem
raceface atlas kash money ltd edition handlebars cut to 750mm
raceface half nelson grips
nukeproof pedals
Charge spoon
Love.
That.
Nicolai
How easy / expensive was it to get the Avalanche kit?
Well this is going to the alps later today 🙂
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With stronger wheels/bigger tyres/1x10. At that build it's 32.5. at the one in the pic about 31ish. Pedals uphill well tho. And downhill let's just say I wish it was supplied with a bravery upgrade!
My Intense 6.6, bit oldschool now but a fantastic bike:
Intense 6.6 Frame, 5th Element Coil
Fox 36 Vanilla RC2's
Hope Pro3 AM4 Wheels/Stans Flow
Full XT 2 x 10 now with S+ rear mech
Easton Monkeylite DH Bars
Hope Tech4 brakes, 203/183mm rotors
Maxxis Minion Exo 3C 2.5" front, 2.35" 60a rear.
Weighs in about 33lb but thinking of changing the shock to a DB Air which would save a lb or 2 but I'll probably put that back on with a Thomson Dropper..
Use it for local riding on the Malvern Hills so more than capable of climbing and so much fun going down 😀
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All mountain-ish
SC Blur LTc
2013 36 float RC2
Crossmax SX
XT drive 1 x 10 w/clutch mech and XT brakes
ENVE DH bars
Havoc stem
Reverb
Hans Dampf tubeless
Point1 podiums
I'm very happy with it after a lot of different bikes (and demos) It's happy to go out all day, do uplift days, natural rides, TCs, alps etc. Very versatile bike. My only criticism is lack of routing for the dropper.
Theraggyone - that Spitfire is lovely and probably the the bike that I should have bought instead of the Rune but I couldn't get a demo and didn't want to spend a load of money on a bike that I haven't ridden. What does it weigh in at? I've been impressed with the KS Link suspension so far.
Hazza - the Banshees are pretty slack. I'm running mine in the neutral setting so a 65.5 degree head angle butuit can go to 65 degrees with the slackest flip chips in the drop outs. Personally I find the neutral setting to be the best compromise if descending and climbing ability plus its a but easier to get the front wheel off the ground.
Hon Nob - that Yetibis lovely. You not a fan of the Hans Dampfs then? I've been really impressed with mine so far and I prefer then to the Minions and reckon they're on a par with the High Rollers that I used to love.
The other bikes are mice too. I nearly went with a Tracer from Tweeks with some cash off it.
tmb467How easy / expensive was it to get the Avalanche kit?
Easy to get but quite expensive... although since the fork and shock were cheap even with the upgrades I've paid less than I would have for a Fox 2013 CTD fork and CCDBAir 😀 .
I've ended up with custom tuning on all my shocks in the past so this was taking it to the next level. There is an entire thread about my suspension geekery 😳
Not the best picture as I still havn't got a pic of it fully built.
It comes in at around 35lbs but should be lighter when I replace the MK1 Saint crank anchor. Its going 2x10 at some point due to me being too unfit and broken to get up big hills these days.
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You not a fan of the Hans Dampfs then? I've been really impressed with mine so far and I prefer then to the Minions and reckon they're on a par with the High Rollers that I used to love.
No, not at all! They arn't even close to the grip of a Minion when pushing on, which I could accept if the rolling speed was noticably higher, yet they seem to roll just as slow. But then a cursory glance at the tread depth & side lugs could tell you that. I can't compare to HR's as i've not tried one for years.
The Butcher/Purgatory combo roll noticably quicker & the Butcher out front grips almost as much as a Minion which is what i'm after. They are a fair chunk lighter than the Minion EXO's I have too (which was almost the same as the HD's).
I like the look of the new Schwalbe's though (forgot the names), be keen to try on them. They look a bit more focussed to what I want.
mindmap3 - MemberTheraggyone - that Spitfire is lovely and probably the the bike that I should have bought instead of the Rune but I couldn't get a demo and didn't want to spend a load of money on a bike that I haven't ridden. What does it weigh in at? I've been impressed with the KS Link suspension so far.
it weighs in at just under 32ib but the wheelset,tubes and tyres are pretty heavy so could easily shave some weight off.
it doesn't seem to make any difference though I use this bike for everything from mini downhill and duel slalom at bike parks to long xc rides/some commuting and its great. ive never had a bike that handles such I wide variety of things so well. it absolutely flies when going down, loves air and rails corners at serious speed inspiring so much newly found confidance but the ks link suspension makes it very easy to pedal too.
I was torn between this and the rune as well but I could only demo the spitty and decided I didn't need more bike than this . im really happy with my decision this bike is a beast and I love it:)
Loving the Banshees 🙂 ive wanted a rune or spitfire for ages but the cost has put me off before!
Stumpy Evo Expert. All stock apart from bars (Renthal), stem (can't remember but it's 70mm) and pedals (SS nano). Never weighed but around 30lbs. Utterly brilliant off-the-peg bike in every way. In an ideal world, i'd upgrade the suspension but everything else does it's job very well.
No pics (at work), but spec is as follows:-
Ibis Mojo HD in raw carbon
Fox 36 160mm fork
CCDB air
CC angleset -1.5 deg
Shimano Xt brakes
Shimano 2x10 drivetrain
rockshox reverb seatpost
Easton haven carbon bars
Dt swiss ex5.1 rims on hoope pro II hubs
Hans dampf tyres set up tubeless
~30lb, feels a alot lighter than my old 05 enduro thats for sure. Works well for everything I want to do with it.
I've not got a pic of it to put up here, but my venerable '09 Wolf Ridge is definitely in the all mountain category.
It's built up with Wotans, Fox CTD Kashima shock, Nukeproof cockpit, SLX Double cranks and a Stinger chain device. The wheels are probably the weakest part of the package being 719s on Pro2 Evos, I may well opt for something like 521s or similar in the future.
Weight-wise it's about 33lbs, but it pedals really well - certainly well enough to make it a viable all day bike.
Hob Nob - it's interesting how different people gel with different tyres. I never felt secure with the Minions despite people raving about them but really liked the High Rollers that a lot of people found a but snappy when they let go. I've really got on with my Hans Dampfs and don't think they drag any more than my super tacky / 60a set up used to. I've not tried the newer Exo Maxxis though.
The raggyone - I reckon if I'd got a demo of the Spitfire I would have been sold too. I love my Rune but it is a but OTT. I agree about the confidence they give you...I've had a few big moments in mine where I've been going too fast for my own good.
_tom_ - I don't think they're any more expensive than other brands these days. I managed to get a pretty good (well, I'm happy with it) deal on mine. I paid less than rrp for the frame, hope headset, conversion kit for my Easton rear wheel and a fitted invisiframe kit. It's still loads of money, but I intend to keep of for a long time (it's just replaced a 2005 SX Trail). I like them and being able to email the designer is pretty cool.
I_Ache - two words...ti spring. You know it makes sense and you deserve it!
I would love a Ti spring but is Ti actually a word?
In all seriousness I'm not 100% sure that I have the right weight spring fitted, I need to do a little bit of fiddling with the shock setup. It doesn't bob at all on climbs and all the reviews says it bobs a lot. This makes me think that my spring is too heavy because I would expect them to have the right weight spring on the test bike.
tom_ - MemberLoving the Banshees ive wanted a rune or spitfire for ages but the cost has put me off before!
I got a great deal on my spitfire frame, two different sets of dropouts and a hope headset for way under the rrp, they are definatly not expensive compared to a lot of other manufacturers frames:)
my frame deal was under £1250:)which I was very pleased with but then I will be keeping this bike a long time. my total build was about £2400
Of course it is! Especially when we we talking about the mater of the gods!
I guess that's the only downside of spring shocks. I've alwasy been between weights.
[Pedant]Ti is an abbreviation shirly?[/Pedant]
Your spending too much time on here!
Playing in Austria.
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Spec:
Brodie Holeshot Ti frame
Sektor 110-150 U-Turn coils
XT mechs
XT brakes and 180mm rotors
XTR shifters, cassette and chain
SLX double chainset with Gamut bash
Times
XT wheels with Spec. Purg/Butcher tyres (High Roller and Minion USTs in pic) / 819s on Kings with Race King tyres
Race Face Atlas 740mm bars
Thomson 50mm stem
Reverb post (KS i900 in pic)
SDG Bel Air
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SB66c with standard XT build (except I have dropped down to 1x10 with a 30t Widgit chainring), 160 34 Floats, DT Swiss Wheelset and 150mm Lev, not weighed it but guessing it comes in around 28lb.
Struggling to get around using 1x10 having previously 'enjoyed' 2x10 but persevering until X01 comes out.
Most awesome bike ever - fact!
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Most awesome bike ever - fact!
Not a chance. Your tyres don't even match! 😛
Most awesome bike ever - fact!
Was looking at this in Leisure Lakes and it's an absolute stunner. Unfortunately my budget doesn't stretch that far so looking at the alloy version instead.
Yeti SB66 - Fox 36 floats, XTR bits, king hubs on 819's and Thomson dropper. Rides very well in the Alps, Lakes and Wales.
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mindmap3 - Member
Your spending too much time on here!
Your probably right.
Just had a quick google and apparently Specialized recommend the 550 spring for upto about 20kg over my weight but a load of yanks on mtbr say that the 600 is more realistic for my weight.
Maybe my 600 is spot on and my damping is a bit too slow.
My bike gets to go "home" tommorrow:
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In 160mm travel format, with DBair shocker/ RLC fork, and Super Gravity flavoured HDs it's 28lb.
You'd hope that'll work quite well in the Alps ;-
Another nomad 🙂
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Listen, stop that ^^^^ kind if thing will you!
These AM bikes are NOT for riding! (They are for polishing and showing off, if you ride them, especially with that sort of ridiculous flying stunt stuff, you might scratch the perfect paint........ 😉
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that SB66 looks so damn good! How much did it set you back?
Your probably right.Just had a quick google and apparently Specialized recommend the 550 spring for upto about 20kg over my weight but a load of yanks on mtbr say that the 600 is more realistic for my weight.
Maybe my 600 is spot on and my damping is a bit too slow.
I'm resisting the urge to be pedantic...
Mick taking aside, what does the TFT spring calculator reckon? What % sag are you running at the mo?
Too right max...these bikes are for looking at and patting yourself on the back whilst think of the gnar lines you'll hit on the one sunny, dry day! 😀
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Transiton Covert Carbon
Fox Float 36 160mm forks
Fox CTD 160mm shock
Renthal fat bars, duo stem, kevlar grips and 34t chainring
Shimano Saint crankset, RD and shifter
XT brakes, chain and 11/34 cassette
Mavic Crossmax SX wheels
Reverb Stealth
SDG Bel Air
DMR Brendog pedals
E13 Lg1+ chain guide
Hope headset
KCNC bottom bracket
Now on Schwalbe racing ralphs for summer (?)
About 33lbs
A little breather after a bit of a Hike a Bike for the La Varda Trail!
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Scott Genius LT 20 Carbon, pretty much standard
Brakes upgraded to Hope Evo Race
Hope bashring
Bionicon Chain Tensioner (like the old DCD)
8 weeks and I will be there again!
Probably weighs about 14.5Kg, not the quickest uphill, but it's great on the downs. 180mm of travel is more than enough for me.
I wish mine still looked like that picture i posted, nearly a seasons racing has taken its toll & it's starting to look a bit doggy.
3 weeks in the Alps from next weekend too, including the Mega & Mountain of Hell, it's going to come back looking very sorry for itself 🙁
mindmap3
Release the inner pedant, I thought thats why we all come on here?
TF say around 600. I'm not 100% sure on the sag its hard to tell on a coil.
There is also talk that a titanium spring wont fit on an Evo because the diameter is too large and rubs on the bottom of the top tube.
Mine only looks (to my eyes) nice in my pic because that was taken the day that I finished building it up. It's already got its first battle sat from me taking a stupidine through some rocks at too higher speed and getting bounced about and the none drive side chainstay took the imoact.
My SX was pretty well used and had more than its fair share if bumps and scraps. I may not be the raddest rider but my bikes do get used (and crashed).
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My Heckler has just earned its stripes in Morzine/Les Gets last weekend!!
The Marz55 160's and offset bushings really slackened it out nicely.
At one point on a 50k AM loop I was really wishing Mindmap3 hadn't talked me into a single ring on the front!!!!
May not be All Mountain, but she's certainly All Woman.
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My bike gets to go "home" tommorrow:
Dijon?
(Actually, went riding in Morvan region last year, near Dijon and Lapierre. Worth checking out if you're in the area)
Currently 32.5lb, have couple of things to replace before heading off to Spain in three weeks http://switch-backs.com/bubion/
My do anything, go anywhere bike. Now gone 1x10 with clutch mech. Just brilliant.
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Dango
That looks great, whats the build on it to get it that light?
Have you looked into getting a Ti spring at all?
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The result of two years tinkering with different spec options and it currently comes in at 32.4 lb.
Find the 1 x 10 OK round the Surrey hills but will be going 2 x 10 again for Trans Savoie 🙂
twelveski
What spring is that? I read on MTBR that Ti springs are bigger so rub on the top tube under compression. How have you found it compared to a steel spring on there?
mindmap is [s]slowly[/s] aggressively talking me round to putting a Ti on mine.
3rd page and no Fives yet? What's going on STW?
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Nothing too exciting; 1x10, wide bars, short stem, 150mm forks.
Rad as you like.
Don't know the make of the spring, but it's the same kind of size as most other springs I have come across. The standard Evo kit comes with a shorter spring to avoid any chance of rubbing, like the one on Dango's, but I have done a few rides now and checked the frame by removing the shock & nothings rubbing. I have got a couple of extra turns of pre-load than I would normally run though, otherwise the spring collar would fould the frame. I have never been able to tell the difference performance wise between Ti & Steel springs, I have used it just for the weight difference.
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I will acknowledge that the mudguards look shit.
Thanks twelveski, I guess as mine is a large it has even less chance of rubbing than yours.
What length is it 2.5? Did you go for a lighter spring to account for the extra preload? I guess you can put a couple more turns of preload on as the spring has more free length.
I'll be buying a ti spring shortly, the forks are 55rc3evo ti's, the rest is all fairly middle of the road kit
hazza123 - Memberthat SB66 looks so damn good! How much did it set you back?
I really couldn't tell you, it was a package bike which was about £4k I think, then I juiced it up a bit but I only pay trade so have no idea. It is very nice though.















