[Closed] Air to coil

Yes.
The Fox X2 air on my Starling felt great compared to the RS Monarch on my previous bike.
I got a good deal on a used Push Elevensix so thought I'd give coil a go, knowing I could punt it on if I didn't like it.
The performance difference is quite remarkable, so plush and composed. I'm a convert.

Yes. My Jeffsy came with a DPX2 and I've recently changed it for a Cane creek dbcoil il. Loadsa grip, hugely improved small bump performance and no noticeable affect on climbing even with the climb switch off.

Yep, you know it. Went from a DPX2 on the Mach6 to a EXT Storia Loc v3 on the Hex. Oh my, what a difference. Bike glides over high frequency bumps, and gives more support when it gets really rough. I just need to find a fork that can match it.

To add a little balance here, I was all aboard the coil hype train with an Ohlins TTX coil shock on my capra. I just switched to a commencal clash with an air shock, which I expected I would be replacing, but I'm pleasantly surprised to find there's not a massive difference between them.

OK it's a different bike so it's not comparing apples to apples but it shows air shocks are getting there. The shock on my commencal is a super deluxe ultimate (what a stupid name).

I went to coil on my Capra,cos it was a cheap replacement to my worn/tired/hard to come by air shock and I thought it may improve things for me - which it indeed did. Rear end of my bike which is super progressive always felt harsh in the chop ,bucky and spikey to me,going to a coil softened and improved all the above.

I've fitted a DVO Jade X coil to my Rail. It's such a huge improvement! Just upgraded my Yari forks with low friction seals, 170mm 2021 air shaft and Charger 2.1 RC2 in the hope they'll be a match for the shock.

I'm about to join the coil hype train, new bike will have coil front and rear with a super Deluxe and a cane creek Helm MkII coil up front.
I'm excited to try something different.

Trust in coilys dumbot bud- seriously

The pivot's travel is very progressive, so with the air shock you need to be matching that with the required volume spacers, and sag, if you've moved to a coil did you get the progressive spring to match the travel?

If the Pivot's leverage curve is progressive then it should suit a standard spring.

It's not progressive

Standard vault spring from tftuned

X2 as standard on the HB160 was really good. DVO Jade I put on is superb.

A big plus for the DVO is that it (should be) easily home serviceable, unlike the X2.

I am a coil convert - I find it offers all the benefits described in your first post Jedi.

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I'm coil on both my eeb & analogue bikes. I can agree they certainly feel nicer for sure.

What I can't certainly say however, is it faster?

I've run coil forks on my last 2 bikes and wouldn't chose to go back, though the damping on my Ribbon is apparently not as good as the new air forks.

Just purchased a secondhand Evil offering with a 160mm fox air fork and a 140mm Push Elevensix shock. Getting out this afternoon for maiden spin. Current bike is Evil following with 130mm \ 120mm air so be interesting to have coil AND 30mm extra travel but basically the same bike otherwise sp a fairly good comparison.

G1 is air front, coil rear (Storia). Storia is hands down the best shock I've had, traction, support, everything, but then it is a grand....

Enduro started off with Air(stx)/Air(stx), then Air(stx)/Coil(ttx), Coil(ttx)/Coil(ttx) and then Air(Lyrik)/Coil(ttx). The coil/coil setup was great as smashing through stuff, but Lyrik was a better trail fork and the TTX remained as the x-wing enduro eats shocks for fun.

Often the coil shocks will have a better damper than the air shock they replace, which will be a big part of the performance difference which is seen. There is also the fact that the shock that comes stock on the bike will rarely be a match for the rider and a retune might be what it takes.

If I were going to be fitting a Fox X2/DHX2, I'd probably fit the air shock, as its far easier to setup and you can easily change the spring rate, whereas with a coil, its more of a faff.

I use coil. I also like air. i wonder what the percentage of coil to air use is in EWS and WC downhill? I would hazard a guess that most use air, partly for ease of adjustability in racing around the world. Dunno though

I find there is less of a difference with coil fork compared to air than there is for rear shocks...

Been running coil for a couple of years now, not only prefer the extra grip and monster truck feel, but I also find on longer rides that I'm much less beaten up and fatigued too.

Recently sent the coil shock off for servicing and a tune so put the air shock back on - it was night and day how much less composed the bike felt.